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Yesterday or maybe the day before I began receiving GRIT (49.3) when I'd tune to LAFF (23.4) on my Hauppauge tuners via PLEX. I had to delete 23.4, rescan, and re-add/map 23.4 to fix things. Are these stations involved in any of the testing and "swaparamera" y'all are talking about OR is this a PLEX mapping hiccup that happened in a recent server release?
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I had the same thing happen on one tuner when KUVN and KTXD swapped Laff and Grit, so most likely it's the stations. Luckily, deleting 23-4 followed by a rescan of RF 46 gets Laff back where it belongs.

Also, KUVN has Grit misnumbered (49-2; should be 49-3). Luckily, deleting all 49-x channels followed by a rescan of RF 48 gets Grit back where it belongs.

I just wish they'd get this mess straightened out. I'm starting to suspect they hired KVFW's engineers.

Edit: Looks like KUVN finally got the right channel number (49-3) assigned to Grit today.
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The storm this morning seems to have knocked KPFW/18 off the air. Depending on how bad the damage is, that may be it for their RF 18 signal.

They're moving to RF 5 in the repack, but I'll never see that signal. KXDA has a strong RF 5 signal in my area and KPFW's new signal is designed not to interfere with it.

Edit: Looks like they popped back on about 4:30 AM (not before I picked up KYTX briefly via tropo though), so I guess the damage wasn't that serious.

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Getting GRIT back on LAFF again How about you?

It's a rather long process to reset this in PLEX with all the tuners I've got in my setup

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I had the same thing happen on one tuner when KUVN and KTXD swapped Laff and Grit, so most likely it's the stations. Luckily, deleting 23-4 followed by a rescan of RF 46 gets Laff back where it belongs.

Also, KUVN has Grit misnumbered (49-2; should be 49-3). Luckily, deleting all 49-x channels followed by a rescan of RF 48 gets Grit back where it belongs.

I just wish they'd get this mess straightened out. I'm starting to suspect they hired KVFW's engineers.

Edit: Looks like KUVN finally got the right channel number (49-3) assigned to Grit today.
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For the most part, no problem here. I'm guessing the problem you're having was triggered by KUVN fixing Grit's virtual channel.

Although Grit is on VC 49.3, it's using the same program ID as Laff used to. So if there's still a "memory" somewhere of Laff being on RF 23 program 4 where it used to be, you'll see Grit when you tune to Laff.

I am having a bit of a problem with my DVR+. It has Grit on 49.3, but puts it right after 23.3 in the program guide. This causes problems trying to change channels. I believe a full rescan of all channels will be needed to fix it.


BTW, KSTR/49 hit a couple of small bumps on the road to ATSC 3.0. The SFN would have interfered too much with a couple of LPTV stations. But these issues appear to be resolved now: one facility was never built, and the other has agreed to accept the small amount of interference it expects. So once the paperwork is done, they should be back on track.
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Just saw a crawler on GetTV telling people to do a rescan so that confirms they're "mucking around"

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For the most part, no problem here. I'm guessing the problem you're having was triggered by KUVN fixing Grit's virtual channel.

Although Grit is on VC 49.3, it's using the same program ID as Laff used to. So if there's still a "memory" somewhere of Laff being on RF 23 program 4 where it used to be, you'll see Grit when you tune to Laff.

I am having a bit of a problem with my DVR+. It has Grit on 49.3, but puts it right after 23.3 in the program guide. This causes problems trying to change channels. I believe a full rescan of all channels will be needed to fix it.


BTW, KSTR/49 hit a couple of small bumps on the road to ATSC 3.0. The SFN would have interfered too much with a couple of LPTV stations. But these issues appear to be resolved now: one facility was never built, and the other has agreed to accept the small amount of interference it expects. So once the paperwork is done, they should be back on track.
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OK, I just saw it too, on 49.2. They didn't give a date, though; just said to rescan to continue getting Get TV over the air. So still no idea when they'll throw the switch.

Edit: Saw it again tonight (Sun., Mar. 17) and this time they gave a date. It's tomorrow! I.e., sometime Monday, Mar. 18, is when they'll throw the switch. We'll be able to track the precise time via live bandscans in the DFW area (here's mine). (It'll probably still show a signal strength of 100, but no ATSC 1.0 lock, on RF 48 once they throw the switch.)

I wish they had waited until repacking to do this, or at least taken a bit more time to iron out the kinks (KTXD still doesn't even have the correct time of day), but it is what it is.
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Looks like KSTR turned off their ATSC 1.0 signal about 10:40 this morning. But I don't think they've started ATSC 3.0 broadcasting yet. At the moment RF 48 just looks dead.

Edit: Looks like they fired up the ATSC 3.0 transmitter between 2:30 and 3:00 PM. (Too bad nobody will be able to receive it for about a year.) At the moment the signal doesn't look that strong, so maybe they haven't fired up the other transmitters for the SFN yet.

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I rescanned one of my DTVPals to pick up the changes in channels 23 and 49 today, and for some strange reason, my DTVPal now thinks we're back on standard time - and there's evidently no way to fix it! Since we're actually on DST I had to set my time zone to Eastern to compensate

Edit: Well, naturally the silly thing corrected itself after a couple of hours and started a recording an hour early, so I had to set it back to Central and redo my timers.

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KUVN-CA repack woes continue

KUVN doesn't expect their post-repack translator will be ready to light up on June 21, as the tower where the RF 11 antenna is to be erected requires structural reinforcement. So they've requested an extension to their construction permit. They plan to shut KUVN-CA (on RF 47) down on June 21, but not light up on RF 11 until construction is complete, which they estimate will be three months later. PDF: https://enterpriseefiling.fcc.gov/da...69913644b12c9b

Personally, I don't understand why KUVN has a translator to begin with. But in the unlikely event that you happen to watch KUVN via that translator, it looks like you'll have to get by on KUVN's main signal for a few months.
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KTXA/21 won't switch frequencies until June 21

PDF: https://enterpriseefiling.fcc.gov/da...69920cb1673169

As a corollary, KDTN/2 won't switch until June 21 either, as they're moving to KTXA's old frequency. Also KLEG/44 can't move to RF 28 before June 21, due to ACI concerns.

I'd be surprised if any DFW station moves before June 21 (except KXAS/5 which has already moved), but it's nice to have confirmation in a few cases.
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KTXD finally has the time of day right

I don't know when it happened, but I just noticed that the time is finally correct on the KTXD channels (23-4, 47-1 thru 47-5, and 49-2).

Something is still off-kilter though. Their program guide is showing up on my iView, but not on my DTVPal DVR. Other channels' guides, including KUVN's, show up on both.
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KTXD shifted their time last week. Earthlink terminated their "free" web space this month with no notice. The pages will remain for a year but no updates are possible which kind of messes up my time monitoring. For now I am doing that from my RPi:
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Guide data on 23-4, 47-1, and 47-2 is fine on my DTVPal DVR. Grit (49-3) has been missing for a while. As a bonus, COMET has the 4:3/16:9 flag correct now.
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Guide data on 23-4, 47-1, and 47-2 is fine on my DTVPal DVR. Grit (49-3) has been missing for a while.
Weird; at the moment I'm seeing guide data on 23-4, 47-2, 47-3, and 49-2, but 47-1 and 47-4 are just "No Information Available."

Wait - it just updated! Now everything is filled in I guess with so many channels on one frequency, it just takes longer for the DTVPal to populate everything now.

As for the channels on KUVN, the guides for 23-1 through 23-3 and 49-1 are working. As you noted 49-3 is missing.
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ATSC 3.0 will be deployed in 40 markets by the end of the year. DFW is included:



https://www.tvtechnology.com/atsc3/a...by-end-of-year


The groups involved which impact DFW are Fox (KDFW, KDFI), NBCU (KXAS, KXTX), Univision (KUVN, KSTR), Tegna (WFAA), Sinclair (KTXD), and Nexstar (in the process of buying KDAF). So far, CBS is sitting this out. It seems like more channel sharing and lighthouse stations are in DFW's future.
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Not looking forward to having a houseful of TV equipment obsoleted by their greed. I hope it fails.
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Univision/Unimas/Sinclair have already started ATSC 3.0 broadcasting (RF 48). That 3->2+1 formula (3 transmitters switching to 2 ATSC 1.0 signals and 1 ATSC 3.0 signal) seems to be the best way to transition to ATSC 3.0 without ATSC 1.0 viewers losing any channels. Still, the PQ for ATSC 1.0 viewers is going to drop somewhat.
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Doesn't say when in 2020. I wouldn't bet on it being before November, though. I fully expect to have beau-coup bandwidth wasted for over a year before anyone can watch.

Yet, it may well fail. With ATSC 1.0, you can now buy a tuner/recorder, including the tuner itself and a thumb drive to record on, for under $70. But if they go ahead with plans to cripple all ATSC 3.0 broadcasts with DRM, ATSC 3.0 tuners will never get that cheap (they'll have to be "approved" to decrypt the DRM'ed signals), and it's likely the only DVR will be TiVo (the only one currently approved for DRM'ed content aside from proprietary cable/satellite DVRs). And they can put any restrictions they want on DRM'ed content, up to and including banning recording of certain shows entirely.

I can't think of a better recipe for customer dissatisfaction than that combination of high prices, limited competition, and restricted use. Might as well stream if that's what broadcasting comes to.
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Don't know if it means anything, but it looks like K25FW (HSN) stopped broadcasting at 2 PM this afternoon. This could be just another minor equipment failure at an LPTV station, and they may be back on the air tomorrow. Or, they may be the last station in the "RF 7 consortium" (my name) to shut down their UHF transmitter in preparation for repacking.

The explanation may be simple. DFW is in repacking phase 3, which runs from this Saturday, April 13, until June 21. KPXD/68 is moving to RF 25. According to the transition progress report they filed with the FCC today, they're ready to begin testing, so K25FW had to shut down by Saturday. If that's all it is, expect to see RF 25 light up this weekend (or maybe Monday) with a duplicate of KPXD programming.

The "RF 7 consortium" consists of four stations that all applied to move to RF 7 as a result of losing their UHF assignments: K25FW (HSN), K31GL (SBN, HOT TV), K31MU (a religious station west of the Metroplex), and KVFW (Retro TV, Rev'n). Because their four applications all interfere with each other, they all agreed to waive any interference claims against each other, in order to get the FCC to approve all four applications. I still have no idea what they're actually planning, though, when they'll move, or who will be able to receive them. But realistically, they can only light up one of the four proposed facilities at a time; no two can reasonably coexist. And if they can't light up more than one, there's no point in building more than one (except perhaps as a backup, as with a full-power station's auxiliary facility).

For now all I can do is speculate. I expect most stations (probably all the full-power ones) to stay on their pre-transition channels until the last day, but a few LPTVs might move earlier. (And if it gets Retro TV back on the air, it can't happen soon enough!)

The most logical approach would be to build only the facility with the best coverage, then have all four stations share it. But that would be KVFW's, and we all know how reliable they've been. Besides, they proposed a custom-built antenna that would give any RF engineer headaches and sleepless nights trying to design. But K25FW's proposed facility is almost as good, and is much more realistic. So maybe the consortium will go with that one.

Also, if they're going to share, K31GL has other options. They could share with KHPK (also off the air for mysterious reasons) or KODF, and cover the Metroplex easily. So maybe we'll see them on another RF channel, while the other three share RF 7.
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Hard to say for sure, but I think the ATSC 3.0 SFN may have finally lit up.

Ever since KSTR switched to 3.0, their signal has remained strong, but there have been occasional dips below 100 on my HDHR. Not often and not far, but enough to notice.

But since Monday morning, it's been solid at 100. Not a single dip since. So I think there's more signal there this week than last week. The logical explanation is that the SFN transmitter near my home has lit up.
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Dropping like flies

Looks like KWDA/30 went off the air about 11:30 AM today (Saturday).

It's possible they shut down in preparation for repacking, but there still seems to be some kind of transmission on their frequency (RF 21) - it's too consistently strong to be just a vacant channel, as it should be if they had just shut their transmitter off - but it's a lot weaker than before and doesn't decode as an ATSC 1.0 signal. (There is a LPTV station on RF 21 in Mineral Wells, but I wouldn't expect to see much signal from them clear over here in East Dallas.) So I'm guessing some kind of equipment failure, possibly related to the rain.

  • Edit: Well. KPFW/18 just went off the air too. This one really does look vacant, so it may be for repacking (even though KTXA/21 is nowhere near ready to take RF 18 yet). If so, they're gone forever from my area.
  • Edit 2: Of course, as soon as I posted that edit, KPFW/18's signal reappeared. I guess they're having trouble with the rain too.
  • Edit 3: It looks like the residual signal on RF 21 is KWDA/30 after all; it's just too weak and degraded to get a consistent lock. But every once in a while, I can get a brief lock just long enough to identify that it's still KWDA.
  • Edit 4: Looks like they got it fixed today (Sunday). They're back at full power now.

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And because of my location, there is an added bit of weirdness for me. In the channel set for 23 I get channels 23.1 - 23.4 (KUVN-DT), but also get channels 23.11 - 23.14 (KUVN-CD), which is a duplicate set. I always thought the KUVN-CD series was coming off a translator/repeater antenna on the roof of a downtown Fort Worth building. But according to both Wikipedia and the FCC, KUVN-CD is a Class A station using RF 47 and virtual channel 47 (even though it displays as 23) and broadcasting off a downtown Fort Worth building--at a whopping .19kW. I've always hidden this set of channels, even though the reception is good though if it let me kill off another dummy recording or two I would unhide them. In any case, despite the lower picture quality I am sort of looking forward to the next round of sharing (06/21/19?) to see what other dummy recordings I can eliminate.
Most of that info is correct. KUVN-CD is using RF 47 (moving to 11 after the repack - they expect to be off the air for a few months though). The only part that's wrong is, they aren't using virtual channel 47; it's KTXD who uses virtual channel 47. As a translator, they use the same virtual channel as the main KUVN; i.e., channel 23. (Even the FCC has that wrong!)

I don't know if KUVN-CD started broadcasting the 49.x channels that moved to RF 23 though. I'm too far away to receive them. Might be worth rescanning RF 47 manually with your DVR+ just to see.

June 21 is when DFW's stations are moving in the repack. Some LPTVs might share channels at that point. One likely set is channels 25, 31, 38, and 43, all of which are off the air at present. (Channel 25 just went off the air April 10, possibly to begin the replacement of their RF 25 antenna with an RF 7 antenna.) Those stations might choose to share RF 7. Or 25, 38, and 43 might share RF 7 while 31 shares some other LPTV signal.

Another possibility is channels 18 and 41. Each will have an LPTV transmission on RF 5, but each RF 5 signal only covers a small part of the metroplex, so it would make sense for each to agree to carry the other's channels. Of course, just because it makes sense doesn't mean it will happen, but hope springs eternal....

We can also look forward to more channel sharing if/when more DFW stations decide to start ATSC 3.0 broadcasting (see Bryan Cannon's post above).
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Don't know if it means anything, but it looks like K25FW (HSN) stopped broadcasting at 2 PM this afternoon. This could be just another minor equipment failure at an LPTV station, and they may be back on the air tomorrow. Or, they may be the last station in the "RF 7 consortium" (my name) to shut down their UHF transmitter in preparation for repacking.

The explanation may be simple. DFW is in repacking phase 3, which runs from this Saturday, April 13, until June 21. KPXD/68 is moving to RF 25. According to the transition progress report they filed with the FCC today, they're ready to begin testing, so K25FW had to shut down by Saturday. If that's all it is, expect to see RF 25 light up this weekend (or maybe Monday) with a duplicate of KPXD programming.
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K25FW-D on channel 25 had to be shut down on 04/12/2019 due to complete failure of both air conditioning systems. KPXD-DT was also scheduled to begin testing on their post-repack channel 25 on 04/13/2019 according to the phase 3 timeline. Therefore, Ventana Television Inc. seeks temporary relief from section 74.763(b) in the form of a silent STA until the facility can be rebuilt on channel 07 per its displacement CP (0000054800).

This application is in the public interest by enabling K25FW-D to return to normal broadcasting as soon as the new facility can be constructed on channel 7 and the air conditioning systems replaced.
Geez - two A/C failures? It looks like K25FW would've had to shut down anyhow - their RF 7 antenna is to be erected where their current RF 25 antenna is, so they had to shut down to swap it out. So maybe the A/C going out was a blessing in disguise, but still - two A/C failures?
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KHPK has been off the air since last October. I've been wondering what happened to them:
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HC2 LPTV Holdings, Inc. (“Licensee”), licensee of KHPK-LD (Facility ID 52926) (“Station”) respectfully requests extension of its Special Temporary Authority (“STA”) granted on November 2, 2018 (See File No. 0000063307) to remain silent for a period of up to six months while it constructs a permanent broadcast facility for this Low Power Television (“LPTV”) station.

The Applicant hereby submits that its intent is to not extend, delay, or otherwise impact the station’s planned return to air date. All efforts are underway to meet required FCC deadlines, and the station fully expects to be on the air prior to the station’s 312(g) deadline of October 25, 2019. The Licensee has recently added several new team members to facilitate the planning, design and construction of new facilities. Moreover, the Licensee has made additional progress thoroughly preparing site summaries and sketches, completing the engineering design process, and determining the Station’s tower needs such as electricity capability, shelter for its transmitter, and Internet availability.

Further, the Station has been in contact with transmitter and antenna manufacturers and is currently collecting quotes from vendors to complete construction.
Sounds like they're building a totally new station!
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Tonight, after 10pm, the following channels all had audio, but the screen image was 1/2 blacked out, and the other half showed only 1/2 of the broadcast picture: CH 20, 44, & 55.


CH 49.3 had audio, but it's picture was completely blacked out.

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Out of market, but K31LQ-D (RF31) up in Sherman has resumed operations after being silent for a year. It's broadcasting KXII's MyNetworkTV (12.2) in 720p. (KXII was debating about upgrading their 12.2 subchannel to 720p last year, but instead opted to add ION on 12.4)

Will have to see if it actually stays up this time, or if it'll go silent due to "hardware failure" after a few days like it did in 2018, 2017, and possibly 2016. (https://enterpriseefiling.fcc.gov/da...ilityId=184857)
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Per the CourtTV website, the channel will not relaunch in DFW until November 2019: https://www.courttv.com/where-to-watch/?state=TX

One point to note is that it's listed to take KDAF's 33.3 slot, which is currently held by ThisTV. Of course, that could change, or KDAF could move ThisTV to 33.4 and replace Charge.

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KDFW CH. 4 is displaying the time an hour behind.

Cable Channel Choice is the only choice I want to make !!
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KDFW CH. 4 is displaying the time an hour behind.
Of course they are. They only switched to standard time last fall after I managed to attract their attention. As expected this spring they never bothered to begin the process so they are still on standard time. I was unable to get their attention this time though.



Their sister station KDFI never did switch to standard time.
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Per the CourtTV website, the channel will not relaunch in DFW until November 2019: https://www.courttv.com/where-to-watch/?state=TX

One point to note is that it's listed to take KDAF's 33.3 slot, which is currently held by ThisTV. Of course, that could change, or KDAF could move ThisTV to 33.4 and replace Charge.
I mentioned this in the Hartford thread, but almost every Tribune channel listed on Court TV's site says it'll be on a subchannel currently running This TV, with the few exceptions being subchannels carrying other Katz networks or new subchannels altogether. If you ask me, it looks like This TV is on its way out. Affiliates have been dropping it over the years, and outside of briefly airing Sinclair's KidsClick block, its very nature as a movie channel means that it's been utterly stagnant for a long time.
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Of course they are. They only switched to standard time last fall after I managed to attract their attention. As expected this spring they never bothered to begin the process so they are still on standard time. I was unable to get their attention this time though.

Their sister station KDFI never did switch to standard time.
I always thought it was silly that iViews and HomeWorxes make you switch them between standard time and DST manually twice each year, rather than going by the DST flag in PSIP. But with problems like these, maybe it wasn't such a bad idea after all.
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