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post #1321 of 1330 Old 09-07-2015, 11:59 PM
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Numerous drop-outs in northern NJ Monday night on 502 and 507 and then around midnight all channels disappeared. On screen message said there was an outage in the area and at 1:30am service was restored.
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Once WNET fixes their hardware I hope they'll re-program some missing shows. My 3 am Tuesday attempted recording of the repeat of Sunday's badly glitched 8 pm Masterpiece new series resulted in a black screen (no signal). Yup, the refugee problem in Europe and elsewhere is more important. -- John


EDIT: WNET is back on channels 13 and 513 as of ~2 pm or earlier today

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Once WNET fixes their hardware I hope they'll re-program some missing shows. My 3 am Tuesday attempted recording of the repeat of Sunday's badly glitched 8 pm Masterpiece new series resulted in a black screen (no signal). Yup, the refugee problem in Europe and elsewhere is more important. -- John
It wouldn't be so bad if we had WNET on-demand, but for some reason we don't. My parents have it on their Optimum service at their house in NJ.

Luckily it seems that WNET (and most PBS stations) have most of their programming available for watching on-demand through their website these days....
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It wouldn't be so bad if we had WNET on-demand, but for some reason we don't. My parents have it on their Optimum service at their house in NJ.

Luckily it seems that WNET (and most PBS stations) have most of their programming available for watching on-demand through their website these days....
Thanks. Having searched my on-demand service a few times for PBS, I concluded in error there wasn't any stored PBS programming. Puzzling why Verizon's Ultimate package, or any FIOS programming service, doesn't include VOD for PBS in NYC.


Meanwhile, like someone in the DSL Verizon forum, looking forward to a scientific explanation of 13/513's outage. While searching the 'net for solar radiation maps/charts yesterday came across a blackened U.S. map with only an ominous red zone above NY/NJ. Thought it had a title about the Japanese reactor leak. Moved on and couldn't find the map again today. Too fantastic. Started thinking about Orson Welle's 1938 "War of the Worlds" broadcast about Jersey. -- John
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Any plans on Verizon offering 4K channels/programming soon or in the future?
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Any plans on Verizon offering 4K channels/programming soon or in the future?
No major US broadcasters are doing 4K. There are some one off events that DirectTV airs, but no regular programming because there's no definitive way to get 4K programming to the customer... yet.

Don't expect to see 4K through your current cable box. I'm not sure if those boxes even support the 4K versions of HDMI. But more importantly, Verizon doesn't have the QAM TV bandwidth to add a 4K channel - they are pretty full. (4K needs the bandwidth of 2-4 HD channels - depending on frame rate and compression. Uncompressed, QAM only has 135ish frequencies. Verizon is already heavily compressing channels to fit more programming down the pipe)

Officially, Verizon has signed a programming deal with a company that has some 4K content. But none of that programming is of broad interest - mainly eye candy channels.

Unofficially, they are beta testing an IPTV solution. It sounds like Verizon wants to eventually move all TV services over to IPTV (internet protocol TV). That solution would replace all your existing cable boxes and cable cards with little network boxes (and maybe apps) and would give them the bandwidth to feed you a 4K signal. The user experience will be significantly different: instead of sending all channels down the pipe to your box, you'll select a program, wait a split second, and only that programming will come down the pipe to the box. As a result, channel hopping will have a slight delay. Also, the new interface is reportedly more program centric and less channel centric.

There is a very in-depth discussion in the Verizon Fios TV forum over on DSL Reports about the IPTV solution. So far, it seems to be months behind schedule. And converting all users to IPTV is a 5+ year plan - not something that can happen over night.
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Any plans on Verizon offering 4K channels/programming soon or in the future?
With everyone in the process of upgrading to 4k capable displays it sure would be nice if there were even a few channels of 4k on tv.
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With everyone in the process of upgrading to 4k capable displays it sure would be nice if there were even a few channels of 4k on tv.
Even if Fios had the technology and bandwidth with their current QAM based system (they don’t and won’t with that system), there is no programming. No major US broadcaster has or has even announced a 4K channel option and probably won’t anytime soon. If you want 4K programming now, pay for Netflix or Amazon or buy a 4K BluRay player.

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It seems that broadcasters are waiting for the distribution technology to catch up and that will take 2-4 years. The FCC just ratified the ATSC 3.0 broadcast standard (which sets the standards for all the over the air broadcasters, includes 4K, and all broadcasters use) last week. Broadcasting equipment won’t really be available for another 6-12 months. And consumer receivers will take at least the same amount of time. But generally, most broadcasters are more interested in ATSC 3.0 for broadcasting programming to mobile devices and less interested in 4K.

The broadcasters are all looking at the history of major TV technology advances: HD TVs were available in 2000, but the programming wasn’t really there until 2004 and advertisers weren’t all in on HD until 2007; electronics manufacturers came out with 3D TVs in 2010 (ESPN even had a 3D channel), but no advertiser wanted to get near it and they eventually shuttered it. Good luck finding a 3D TV in a store today.

We are going through a period of change in how people consume media. Broadcasters and advertisers are acutely aware that more and more people are cutting cords, are watching on tablets or phones, and binging shows months after their initial airing on streaming platforms without commercials. Broadcasters are stuck with a hard financial decision: invest in streaming (now a proven platform) or invest in a 4K infrastructure (unproven and with little or no route to the end user). ESPN / Disney learned from their 3D channel - they just bought streaming company BAM. CBS made their own streaming platform. NBC and Fox own parts of Hulu. HBO uses BAM. AMC made their own streaming platform.
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Any plans on Verizon offering 4K channels/programming soon or in the future?
Vz has an agreement for 9 4k channels
https://www.theverge.com/2017/3/27/1...s-tv-trial-ses

but no data on when this will launch.
last I heard they were beta testing 4k vod on their new tv platform.

no word on if this [agreement] will continue via fios or via the new OTT/ "Oath" Brand.

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Even if Fios had the technology and bandwidth with their current QAM based system (they don’t and won’t with that system), there is no programming. No major US broadcaster has or has even announced a 4K channel option and probably won’t anytime soon. If you want 4K programming now, pay for Netflix or Amazon or buy a 4K BluRay player.
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Fox Sports and NBC Sports both broadcast 4k on DirecTV .

There are about 2 live 4K sports events per week on DirecTV. These events vary from NBA, NCAA CF, Premier League Soccer, MLB etc. 2 ALCS games were live in 4K from Yankees Stadium
https://support.directv.com/dtv-programming/4k-events

DirecTV also has a 24/7 4k channel which shows random program from different networks (HGTV, Animal Planet etc) in 4k .

so content is there it will just take time as mentioned above

Here are photos of that MLB ALCS game in 4k via DirecTV
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