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Does anyone know if Spectrum gets the off-air signal (and thus is limited to the same compression as the OTA signal) or has a dedicated fiber link that may be higher bandwidth?
Probably a dedicated link, but I fear your question may be moot since the cable & satellite providers do enough over-compression of their own to severely reduce PQ.
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Probably a dedicated link, but I fear your question may be moot since the cable & satellite providers do enough over-compression of their own to severely reduce PQ.
I have Spectrum so am definitely aware of this. Used to be the case that for things like live sports, it was better to watch OTA because of higher bandwidth. But now I'm wondering if the feed I get through Spectrum may actually be better than the OTA equivalent on KMOV. Guess the only way to know for sure is to test them side by side so I'll try that when I have some time.
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I have Spectrum so am definitely aware of this. Used to be the case that for things like live sports, it was better to watch OTA because of higher bandwidth. But now I'm wondering if the feed I get through Spectrum may actually be better than the OTA equivalent on KMOV. Guess the only way to know for sure is to test them side by side so I'll try that when I have some time.
Try viewing events via streaming if possible. I find that most on Fox Sports, NBC, NFL, etc. look best via my Roku. Of course, this assumes the event is available via those services. Sadly, one more reason for cord-cutting.
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KTVI is telling us to rescan because it moved. Sure enough, no KTVI on the TV this morning.

Rescanned, still no KTVI.

Re-rescanned, KTVI came back.

Went to Tivo and KTVI is still there, even though I did NOT rescan yet.

Confused yet? I am.

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KTVI is telling us to rescan because it moved. Sure enough, no KTVI on the TV this morning.

Rescanned, still no KTVI.

Re-rescanned, KTVI came back.

Went to Tivo and KTVI is still there, even though I did NOT rescan yet.

Confused yet? I am.

Hey Robert, I didn't get confused. I just kept an eye on the St. Louis RabbitEars Live Bandscan tuner. Looks like KTVI did the flip a few minutes before 10 AM CDT...


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Now that KTVI has repacked onto ch 33, is the set of channels from KBGU (Buzzr, GetTV, Grit, etc) that were on 33 gone forever?

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Now that KTVI has repacked onto ch 33, is the set of channels from KBGU (Buzzr, GetTV, Grit, etc) that were on 33 gone forever?
They will be on channel 27, but are either off the air or at very low power at this time.
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I haven't been able to pick up channel 24 the last couple days.
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I haven't been able to pick up channel 24 the last couple days.
KNLC went off the air a little after 3:00 PM yesterday (3/23) due to a fiber cut. They are also off all cable/satellite providers. I don't know the ETA on a repair.
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KNLC went off the air a little after 3:00 PM yesterday (3/23) due to a fiber cut. They are also off all cable/satellite providers. I don't know the ETA on a repair.
Shocking that they don't have some basic equipment at the transmitter site that would automatically kick in to loop play all their commercials for reverse mortgages, consumer cellular, catheters, car warranties, senior life insurance and tax relief. So much lost revenue!
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KNLC went off the air a little after 3:00 PM yesterday (3/23) due to a fiber cut. They are also off all cable/satellite providers. I don't know the ETA on a repair.
Their app is also down

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No KSDK Signal

Anyone else having issues with getting KSDK (Channel 5) via antenna? Not getting any signal for any of the 5.X channels. Rescanned multiple TV's in the house, and then channel 5 is missing entirely. I can get it fine through YouTube TV. Getting all other channels via antenna just fine.
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Anyone else having issues with getting KSDK (Channel 5) via antenna? Not getting any signal for any of the 5.X channels. Rescanned multiple TV's in the house, and then channel 5 is missing entirely. I can get it fine through YouTube TV. Getting all other channels via antenna just fine.
I am getting the signal but it is significantly degraded the last 2-3 days compared to normal. Seeing ranges of 55-70% on my HDHomeRun tuner as opposed to the usual 90-95%.
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What are the chances we see ATSC 3.0 channels this year in St. Louis? Trying to decide if I want to do the SiliconDust Kickstarter on their ATSC 3.0 box or not. My current unit is ancient and works great.

Could wait for it to be in stores, but don't want to miss out seeing the "test" broadcasts either.

Kickstarter ends in the next few days. Supposed to ship in August.

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What are the chances we see ATSC 3.0 channels this year in St. Louis? Trying to decide if I want to do the SiliconDust Kickstarter on their ATSC 3.0 box or not. My current unit is ancient and works great.

Could wait for it to be in stores, but don't want to miss out seeing the "test" broadcasts either.

Kickstarter ends in the next few days. Supposed to ship in August.

I too, would like to see the test broadcasts, but I fear COVID-19 can only push out the original target dates. Do you happen to have any info regarding which station might be first? Also, are the same frequencies used during these tests?
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KNLC went off the air a little after 3:00 PM yesterday (3/23) due to a fiber cut. They are also off all cable/satellite providers. I don't know the ETA on a repair.
.....aaand it's still down. I'm missing my 1960s Batman!
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What are the chances we see ATSC 3.0 channels this year in St. Louis? Trying to decide if I want to do the SiliconDust Kickstarter on their ATSC 3.0 box or not. My current unit is ancient and works great.

Could wait for it to be in stores, but don't want to miss out seeing the "test" broadcasts either.

Kickstarter ends in the next few days. Supposed to ship in August.
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I too, would like to see the test broadcasts, but I fear COVID-19 can only push out the original target dates. Do you happen to have any info regarding which station might be first? Also, are the same frequencies used during these tests?
I'm fighting the same internal battle.
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.....aaand it's still down. I'm missing my 1960s Batman!
No, it was only down for a couple days or so. I have had no issues getting KNLC steadily for the last several weeks. The signal is on the air.
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No, it was only down for a couple days or so. I have had no issues getting KNLC steadily for the last several weeks. The signal is on the air.
For real? Guess I need more foil on my antenna.

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