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I'm still pissed about WUSA moving from UHF to VHF. It went from my strongest station to my weakest. So there are times when I cannot get a good signal. Usually during the winter when the foliage is off the trees. It can be strong enough one day, and weak the next where I get breakups. But once the foliage is back on the trees I get a stable signal.

Although I don't know why I even care any more. The video quality from all the local stations is terrible. So I watch everything I can from streaming services now. Since they put DC OTA video quality to shame now. And the video quality from FiOS cable channels are just as bad now.

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Hey all -- I don't understand what's happening with my reception of WUSA. Here's my TV Fool map. EDIT -- can't post a link but cut & paste this after putting in tvfool dot com -- /?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=29&q=id%3d9038e58427b5f 7


I have excellent reception from every other channel in the area (and from some Baltimore & Frederick stations) but I get zippy from channel 9 despite the tower being 9 miles away and line of sight.


My next door neighbor uses flat panel antennas and said she occasionally has it disappear but just has to rescan. I've rescanned five times since setting this up today and still get nothing.


I'm going to try a different antenna just for kicks, but anyone have any ideas?
I lose ch.9 sporadically, too, since around the fall I think. It's only one of my two Samsungs, using indoor antennas. Odd because I feed a separate tuner into it and that tuner doesn't lose the channel. Only happens about once every few weeks at most. I just rescan.
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I'm still pissed about WUSA moving from UHF to VHF. It went from my strongest station to my weakest. So there are times when I cannot get a good signal.
I'm perturbed about it because when all the stations were on UHF, I bought a UHF antenna with rotor and I thought that with some of them moving to VHF that my antenna would become obsolete. However, I've been able to still continue receiving 7, 9, 11, and 13 even with just the UHF antenna when it's correctly aimed. In my case, 7 is weaker than 9 and 13 is strongest. I always assumed it was because 7 is the lowest frequency outside of what the antenna was built for. I've not noticed a difference based upon the time of the year.
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Hey all -- I don't understand what's happening with my reception of WUSA. Here's my TV Fool map. EDIT -- can't post a link but cut & paste this after putting in tvfool dot com -- /?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=29&q=id%3d9038e58427b5f 7

I have excellent reception from every other channel in the area (and from some Baltimore & Frederick stations) but I get zippy from channel 9 despite the tower being 9 miles away and line of sight.

My next door neighbor uses flat panel antennas and said she occasionally has it disappear but just has to rescan. I've rescanned five times since setting this up today and still get nothing.

I'm going to try a different antenna just for kicks, but anyone have any ideas?
I'll give it a shot. I'm assuming you get WJLA on RF channel 7 with no problems. You also say that you get some Baltimore stations. Do these include WBAL-11 and WJZ-13? If so, then you have a good antenna for VHF with a nice range. If your setup includes an amplifier, then because you are only 9 miles away from WUSA, your signal maybe "too hot" for the chip in your television to handle. An ATSC 1.0 signal that is over amplified can cause reception to fail. The reason you still get channel 7 is due to the signal being just under this threshold.

OR

If you are using a flat panel antenna like your neighbor, you definitely don't get WBAL and WJZ. This type of antenna is notoriously bad with VHF reception. An old set of rabbit ears would likely do better. If you're going to try a different antenna, try one that is good with both VHF & UHF signals.

OR

If you are already using an indoor VHF/UHF antenna, there might be some electronic device in your home that is leaking RF and interfering with your reception of WUSA. If you have, for instance, security cameras, you might want to turn them off and see if that makes a difference with your reception.

I hope this helps. The ATSC 1.0 signal is very temperamental. Any type of interference can kill reception. This is why I hope broadcasters roll out ATSC 3.0 soon. By the way, the TVFool database is almost 3 years out of date and is missing some stations. Keep that in mind when you use it in the future.
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Anecdotally, I've always heard more complaints about WUSA than WJLA, which is strange because they're at the same ERP coming out of the same antenna. People either seem to have VHF problems that kill both signals, or have problems with just WUSA. I am not sure I've ever heard of someone who gets WUSA and not WJLA.

It makes me wonder if there isn't something more fundamentally wrong with WUSA, but I don't know what it could possibly be. I, personally, have not had any problem with WUSA since moving to the area in 2013.

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I'm perturbed about it because when all the stations were on UHF, I bought a UHF antenna with rotor and I thought that with some of them moving to VHF that my antenna would become obsolete. However, I've been able to still continue receiving 7, 9, 11, and 13 even with just the UHF antenna when it's correctly aimed. In my case, 7 is weaker than 9 and 13 is strongest. I always assumed it was because 7 is the lowest frequency outside of what the antenna was built for. I've not noticed a difference based upon the time of the year.
My two antennas(squareshooters) are also mainly designed for UHF. But channel 7 is rock solid for me. Even though it's at the low end of what my antennas can receive.

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WJLA's time has been four minutes behind for at least a couple of weeks now.
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According to the Control Panel, I am subscribed to 56 AVSForums threads, including this one, but I just searched through my auto-stored inbox e-mail folder, which goes back to 2010, and there is not one single e-mail notification to me of activity in any of my AVS subscribed-to thread.

All 56 of my subscribed threads are notification-categorized, “instant”. Beneath that notification column, there is a, “Selected Threads”, pop open window that seemingly empowers me to, “Delete Subscription”, or to "Update Subscription Type" to Instant, Daily, Weekly or No e-mail notification, so I already have the promptest one for each and every one of my subscribed-to threads.

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Mine has always worked fine. Are you sure your spam settings allow email from AVSforums?
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Oops! I had searched my e-mail, folder for AVSForums rather than AVSForum.

I see now that I just hadn't got any notifications this year, but that can be explained by my having accessed this thread without logging in, and I think the way the notifications here work is, once you get notified of a post in a subscribed-to thread, you don't get any more subsequent notices until you visit the thread as a logged in member.

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WJLA's time has been four minutes behind for at least a couple of weeks now.
I thought it was my aux tuner. I keep readjusting my recording times for Danger Man on 7.2.

OTOH, ch 7 and 9 and coming in fine on this gusty day.
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I thought it was my aux tuner. I keep readjusting my recording times for Danger Man on 7.2.

OTOH, ch 7 and 9 and coming in fine on this gusty day.

I sent an e-mail so-informing them to this address: [email protected]. Maybe if they get more than one...


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Are the rest of you getting your selected e-mail notification regarding activity? Any ideas on what the problem is? If I continue to have this problem, I might delete the subscription and then resubscribe for daily notification and see what happens.
I wish I only had 56 subscribed threads. I have over twelve hundred fifty subscribed threads. And that is after paring it down to under a hundred a few years ago. I eventually disabled the email notifications for new posts. Since I typically just go to the subscribed thread page anyway.

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I was surprised to find WDVM out of Hagerstown showing up on my Hopper 3, even though I live in northern VA. I'm getting perfect reception, too. Anybody else?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WDVM-TV

Never mind... The reason I get perfect reception is that this station (and a few others) are really coming off the satellite rather than OTA. The black OTA icon is apparently a Dish mistake. (Normally the OTA icon is yellow with "Over the Air" printed underneath.)

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I was getting WDCA 20-1 fine before the first of the year, but now I cannot seem to pull in the signal. Did something change after January 1, 2019?
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I was getting WDCA 20-1 fine before the first of the year, but now I cannot seem to pull in the signal. Did something change after January 1, 2019?
Rescan. If you're receiving 5-1, you should receive 20-1; WDCA is now channel sharing on WTTG. (It actually happened last summer, as I recall.)

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Rescan. If you're receiving 5-1, you should receive 20-1; WDCA is now channel sharing on WTTG. (It actually happened last summer, as I recall.)

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Thanks Trip. I have try rescanning and I do not get either 5-1 or 20-1. I always had trouble getting 5-1 but not 20-1. I will work on the antennae once the weather gets better.
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I'm not sure when this happened, but News Channel 8 has rebranded as WJLA 24/7 News. Am I crazy for thinking this might presage it being added to their OTA subchannels?
Any update on this idea--it would be great!
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Looks like WJLA finally reset their clock. Just noticed. Hadn't checked since 3/31.

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Yikes. I got a call to install a replacement residential antenna in Annandale from a customer whose antenna was recently removed by his roofing company and discarded. He says he had been getting solid reception of all of his Washington and Baltimore stations from a fixed orientation without tweaking with his rotor so I planned to just be installing a fixed Winegard HD-7694, but I was curious to see 1) how far off axis WMPT/Annapolis would be and, 2) how strong repeaters WMPB/Baltimore 67.1, UHF-22 and WFPT/Frederick 62.1, UHF-28 might be if there was a WMPT/Annapolis 22.1, UHF-42 reception problem, so I ran his address through tvfool and I was perplexed and dismayed by its results.


The table it generated did not include WMPT, or any Maryland Public Television stations for that matter, and the data base it used has not been updated since July 24, 2017, so it includes defunct channels 24 and 30, and has incorrect transmitter frequencies for several others. Has TVFool been updating any of the other market’s data bases, or has any alternative signal analysis site emerged as better updated one?


Edit. I neglected to mention in the initial incarnation of this post that his Baltimore stations are all two edge, and VHF channels WBAL 11.1, VHF 12's and WJZ 13.1, VHF 13's calculated signal strengths are -87dBm and -90dBm respectively. If his "two edges" are woods, then I shudder at the thought of how much the channel 12 and 13 signals will weaken as the foliage seasonally thickens.


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TVFool hasn't been updated in a while. I've attempted to contact Andy to try to get it updated, but with no response.



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The table it generated did not include WMPT, or any Maryland Public Television stations for that matter, and the data base it used has not been updated since July 24, 2017, so it includes defunct channels 24 and 30, and has incorrect transmitter frequencies for several others. Has TVFool been updating any of the other market’s data bases, or has any alternative signal analysis site emerged as better updated one?

That is distressing. I used TVfool to point my antenna pretty much due NW because our Washington stations and Baltimore are all in that direction from my home in Annandale. I did not realize 22 was out of Annapolis (possibly because it's missing from the TVfool report). It usually comes in perfectly, but I do have a pretty strong antenna at about 25' elevation.
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TVFool not only has not been updated in two years, some TV stations in the database are missing. Trip, please hurry up with perfecting your search tool. The TV masses need a reliable replacement!

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I neglected to mention in the initial incarnation of this post that his Baltimore stations are all two edge, and VHF channels WBAL 11.1, VHF 12's and WJZ 13.1, VHF 13's calculated signal strengths are -87dBm and -90dBm respectively. If his "two edges" are woods, then I shudder at the thought of how much the channel 12 and 13 signals will weaken as the foliage seasonally thickens.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but it's the UHF signals that are negatively influenced by trees and leaves. VHF signals should be fine if that is the case.
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TVFool not only has not been updated in two years, some TV stations in the database are missing. Trip, please hurry up with perfecting your search tool. The TV masses need a reliable replacement!
It works as it is, it's just hard to share links. Rabbit73 on here takes a screenshot of it, which is a decent stopgap.

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Fine, but I'm hoping you can still add an entry by coordinates. This would be more accurate than having to use an address. Also, I still think the strength tool should be able to be accessed from the homepage of your website. I'd put the link for it below your blog link.
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And I’ll add that with the fcc site (live link above), one can move the pin within the map if desired.

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