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More Dark Energy Abyss Photos

In this first shot one can easily ascertain the depth of the Black Level enhancement
(...Note: The following shots we taken in reduced light levels, both ambient and Incandescent...)



This next photo shows the extremely small degree of attenuation of White levels as compared to the depth of the enhanced Blacks. (...Please note that NO calibration of any type has been attempted...)



Showing greatly enriched Colors.....






Enhanced Shadow detail...............



Dynamic Imagery..........




Coming next, Dark Energy Abyss vs Matte White 1.1 gain in a Totally Darkened Room Setting.
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Images of Dark Energy Abyss "Flex"

The Images shown below are of Dark Energy Abyss "Flex" material. (vs matte white) The amount of ambient light is much greater than the images show because the Dark Energy Screen is reflecting a considerably higher amount of light than is present within the room.

Performance on-off Axis is excellent, and Black Levels are terrific. Uniformity is virtually perfect, even at obtuse viewing angles. There are no Color pushes or crushing of detail, and no artifacts or shimmering effects.

Best of all, the "Flex" will lend itself to almost any DIY'ers plans and needs for a lightweight and effective ambient light solution.





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"Ear to the Wall" Off Axis viewing and Low Lumen performance in a extreme ALR screen

Some recent Mfg ALR Screens tout having good viewing cones...but none can match Dark Energy Abyss Flex's 180 degrees.



Next up, the Projector in use in the next video is an Epson 2030 with 4000 hours on the Lamp....yet still the image is completely enjoyable.

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Some recent Mfg ALR Screens tout having good viewing cones...but none can match Dark Energy Abyss Flex's 180 degrees.

Next up, the Projector in use in the next video is an Epson 2030 with 4000 hours on the Lamp....yet still the image is completely enjoyable.
Can you do the half'n'half thing with the flexi-white (or even just a white sheet of copy-paper) to show the relative brightness off-axis. It's practically impossible to judge viewing-cone from a YouTube video without any matte-white reference and the single slightly off-axis photo seems to show a little dimming below 1.0gain.

What size is the image in those videos?

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Can you do the half'n'half thing with the flexi-white (or even just a white sheet of copy-paper) to show the relative brightness off-axis. It's practically impossible to judge viewing-cone from a YouTube video without any matte-white reference and the single slightly off-axis photo seems to show a little dimming below 1.0gain.

What size is the image in those videos?
110" diagonal

As for the redo, I'll try, but I don't see "practically any" dimming as far as the slightly off-axis images, and virtually perfect uniformity across the entire screen, all the way out to the edges, and that's coming from even the 170 - 180 degree view point. That is not what anyone would expect.....especially from a ALR screen optical Film Screen, and if by chance there was a minute amount of such dimming occurring, and there may be some mind you....it is in fact so minute as to be on no consequence. What seems most spectacular is that even if there is a tiny bit of dimming in the slightly off-axis images, it does not increase proportionately...or even at all....in the extreme off-axis shots.

And it keeps getting better too. I was just this AM informed that the combination of materials currently used for DEA-Flex has a degree of "Stretch-ability" so.....wow.

More on that to come soon.

I'll close by sayin' that I'm awfully glad I insisted that a Fabric Based Dark Energy application geared toward the DIY'er be aggressively pursued. While it did add more time to the eventual roll-out, it's looking more & more as a tremendously wise decision.

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The Images shown below are of Dark Energy Abyss "Flex" material. (vs matte white)



The matte-white in these pictures looks more lose and fabric-like than flexi-white..is it spandex?
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All of the images shown of Matte White vs DEA-Flex show the use of a 1.1 gain Matte White Vinyl-backed Fabric that is not Flexi-White. If one looks closely you can see a 1" wide vertical stripe on the left edge of the White Material that is semi-transparent, and allowing some bleed through of the DEA-Flex screen.

I didn't make the use of the different material plain, but to me, such Matte Whites are to be considered being one and all the same. If that's "my Bad"...I accept the admonishment.

In the all & all, the comparisons of Matte White vs DEA-Flex are a bit redundant, and the results are pretty much a given thing. One should not expect to see many more such examples, but before they do cease, there is the extreme off-axis comparison example coming soon that will feature the same material.

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Here you go



,,,,,,and tossed in for good measure:

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Pictures look great! Any chance of getting some sports pictures? Perhaps one for hockey, one for football, and one for basketball.

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Not at present as the Dark Energy Abyss Flex shown above is in the process of being drawn & quartered for use as the requested samples. We wanted people to have the exact same material in their hands they have been seeing used in the photo depictions.

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MississippiMan Please show a macro photo of the screen with projection and without projection,how smooth the surface is or micro wave material? Thank you!!!
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MississippiMan Please show a macro photo of the screen with projection and without projection,how smooth the surface is or micro wave material? Thank you!!!
Here are several varied examples at various level of focal length, from "Feet away" to true Macro 400x

In the "Image" shots we've chosen solid colors on Graphics since that make it easiest to spot artifacts and sheen if present. All Ya All decide.

From approx 3' away




From 1 Foot away




From up close and personal..............those are the Pixels BTW. Such structure would make any other artifacts plainly noticeable.





Here is an edge Shot with the edge under intense light.....




Here is an extreme Macro of the surface with no projected image, under indirect suppressed flash @ 400x (5312 x3988 cropped)




And lastly, for those screamin' about sheen'n.....a "sideways Flash-on" shot with light at the far edge. Certainly a worst case example, and the low degree of sheen showing should help illustrate how little is present.
(...Black Flame / Silver Fire painted screens have similar amounts to no ill effect...)





As suggested earlier, all ya all decide............
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MississippiMan Thank you very much!!! You guys did a very cool black screen!!!
Tell on (grey) fabric can be applied your makeup( Voxel Worx ) or film(PVC)as a hard layer?
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Thanks! You have done a great job! :-)


Does your screen also improve contrast with no foreign lighting? Fighting the room reflexion on white walls?

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Thanks! You have done a great job! :-)


Does your screen also improve contrast with no foreign lighting? Fighting the room reflexion on white walls?
Absolutely. In fact, that amounts to being the easiest thing accomplished.
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Can you do the same macros pictures with the SI BD 0.8 and DNP supernova 08-85?

Is the screen better for ultra short throw projector than for long throw? If yes, how is it better and why?

What about color shift due to the screen?

And thank you for listening to all our questions! :-)

ps: could you PM me for a sample?

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Can you do the same macros pictures with the SI BD 0.8 and DNP supernova 08-85?
The 08-85 is about as good as a Mfg Screen can get. It was our reference standard for judgement against our own...and we surpassed it. (...something I've aspired to for quite a while using Paints....)

The BD 0.8 really isn't even in the running. So much has been posted in a negative sense that it's issues are well documented. Time to let the Old Dog pass away.......

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Is the screen better for ultra short throw projector than for long throw? If yes, how is it better and why?
Better for UST-PJs than most all other ALR screens? Yes. But C'mon....it absolutely Kills with a Standard Throw PJ. Lets use some common sense reasoning on the questions, OK?

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Virtually non-existent. Or it wouldn't be offered.....period. Is it absolutely dead on Neutral? No. But the viewer would be hard pressed to guess otherwise and it will require testing to validate that so.....I'll stand by my assertion.

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Absolutely. In fact, that amounts to being the easiest thing accomplished.
Did you post any comparison pictures in dark room yet?
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Thank you again! :-)

Could you please take some pictures of your screen with a 100% white picture with a gain 1 white screen in comparison and why not the dnp supernova 08 85?

Thank you! ;-)

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Did you post any comparison pictures in dark room yet?
There are a few included. It should be obvious that any appreciable improvements in contrast allowed in ambient light are also going to be manifest in the dark.

A major misconception being that a white surface in the dark will perform as well as a "balanced" unity gain ALR screen. The ALR Screen will be all the more proficient if it maintains the same or higher level of gain as the White. And has no color pushes, of course.


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Could you please take some pictures of your screen with a 100% white picture with a gain 1 white screen in comparison and why not the dnp supernova 08 85?

Thank you! ;-)
Request 1: The stark Black & White examples serve the purpose intended well enough. As of now the primary focus is on filling Sample orders received as well as the 3 Beta Screens that are on order.

Request 2: I stated before that as far as artifacts and construction, the 08-85 is a excellent screen, so such scrutiny is both unnecessary and redundant. Also, we cannot fill unabated, continual requests in demand. It's time consuming. If you order a Sample, it's something you can experiment with and report your own observations.

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I did order a sample or tried but you did not PM me.

I thank you anyway for your time.

My request was only to evaluate the level of white.

It seems like the only drawback of your screen as it was already for the dnp supernova 08 85.

The real gain of the dnp is closer to 0.6. And your screen on the Videos seem as bright as the dnp.

Ps: waiting for your pm to play soon with a sample! :-)

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I did order a sample or tried but you did not PM me.

I thank you anyway for your time.

My request was only to evaluate the level of white.

It seems like the only drawback of your screen as it was already for the dnp supernova 08 85.

The real gain of the dnp is closer to 0.6. And your screen on the Videos seem as bright as the dnp.

Ps: waiting for your pm to play soon with a sample! :-)

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I know of a certain that we are of higher gain than the 08-85, and the images as shown clearly show that. But also those smae images show deeper Blacks.
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Hi Mississippiman, cool stuff. I am very interested.
I am about to pull the trigger on a new screen. I have been looking at the DnP Blade 23-23 and Microlite Panorama 1.8. A couple of questions about the Dark Energy:
How well does it do with JVC DLA PJs (low powered)?
Going for an edgeless or narrow border trim design, will you be offering something similar?
I would like to get a sample to compare it against the DNP sample I have now, how do I get one?
I would like to have my new screen by the end of the year, do you think it will possible?

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Hi Mississippiman, cool stuff. I am very interested.
I am about to pull the trigger on a new screen. I have been looking at the DnP Blade 23-23 and Microlite Panorama 1.8. A couple of questions about the Dark Energy:
How well does it do with JVC DLA PJs (low powered)?
It should perform very well, as our own tests have been done using a PJ at/under 700 lumen and with nowhere near the Native CR as "any" JVC.
I am hoping to have some extensive documented testing completed and published before Dec.1st. And most of that testing will be done using JVC projectors.

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Currently we are offering greatly reduced price Dark Energy Abyss Flex Beta versions. Max Height "view-able" being 58". I would guess your proposed screen would come in under that Height limit.
The very nature of the design and material used allows for a Zero-Edge application when wrapped onto a Frame. We also will offer "Solid Screen" versions, but currently we are perfecting a method of packaging such that will not require a Piano crate-like affair to assure safe shipping. So as of now, the DEA-Flex Beta comes to the end user on a Roll for self installation.

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I would like to get a sample to compare it against the DNP sample I have now, how do I get one?
Follow the directions listed in the first post on this Thread. https://www.avsforum.com/forum/434-vo...-requests.html

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Almost assuredly. If you deign to wait until the testing done is complete...it might be more problematical. But if you decide based on your own observations using a 12" x 12" sample,and make arrangements to receive one soon...... absolutely.

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I was considering DNP 08-85, and then I saw Dark Energy Abyss. I am very impressed. I am definitely buying this screen as I want zero edge and like to DIY.
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In addition to the pictures in this thread, I've also noticed the youtube videos - looks great! I apologize if this has been covered somewhere already.....regarding the pictures and video, where is the projector located, in relation to the screen? Just wondering if this screen is angular or retro reflective?


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In addition to the pictures in this thread, I've also noticed the youtube videos - looks great! I apologize if this has been covered somewhere already.....regarding the pictures and video, where is the projector located, in relation to the screen? Just wondering if this screen is angular or retro reflective?


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It will do best with the PJ located closer to the top of the screen, but there is some fudge factor there.

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It will do best with the PJ located closer to the top of the screen, but there is some fudge factor there.
Very nice, and, what I was hoping for too!

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It would be nice to see a photo of this screen vs the BD 1.4. I know you have it vs the BD 0.8 and the DNP 08-85, but I'd like to see it vs the BD 1.4. Of course, once I get the sample, I'll be able to check it out for myself.

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I received my sample and here are my first impressions:

Material look and feel:
It is flexible (can be easily wrapped around a zero-edge frame) which is what I need. It is dark gray and feels thick and strong; darker than BD slate and way darker than my DnP 23-23 (sample on the left).

Picture quality
Haven't been able to fully test it, but it looks promising. I am including a few shots taken around 3:30pm in South Florida. I have a big 100"x40" (more or less) window on the right facing east. The space is a living room so its open on the left side to the rest of the house. Granted it is late in the afternoon and the sun is setting in the opposite side of the house.The PJ is a JVC-RS4810 currently set to natural picture mode and no calibration.
The images shown are all taken with an iPhone 6 plus. The shadow detail is pretty good. The whites are somewhat dark IMHO, but they may improve with calibration (I hope). I don't know if my PJ will have enough lumens, but I will attempt a calibration with the small sample.

Take a look. BTW, behind the sample is a 65" Panny Plasma. I am including an example as well.
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Thanks Isisyodin!

I didn't receive mine yet.

Can you comment on shimmer/sparkles?
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