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If something is mastered at 4,000 nits on the Dolby pulsar, HDR10 is absolutely not the full HDR master. The master is 16bit .tiff files, and since DV is 12bit w/dynamic metadata, how can you say HDR10 is the "Full HDR" ?
While you're technically correct, ultimately I'm even skeptical of Dolby Vision's ability to look much better than HDR10. Even if you consider the most extreme possibility with HDR10, a 10,000 nit encode, you still have 512 shades of grey in the first 100nits, which is still a finer gradient than SDR, which honestly, I never noticed any banding in. Yes, with Dolby Vision, that increases to anywhere between 2048 and 4095 shades of grey.

In fact, 16bit could actually give you a worse gradient if the colors are stored linearly rather than on a logarithmic scale like HDR10 and DV, as then you'd only have 655 shades of grey in the first 100nits on a 16bit encode. Not exactly sure how that do it there.

That being said, all of these formats do make more substantial increases in the >100nit ranges over HDR10, but smaller changes in those ranges are less noticeable.

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Just finished it. I think there might have been an issue with my xbox one s and this title. There was a haze or yellow/gold filter and it was darker than i think it should have been. I also noticed a lot of soft scenes. Atmos track didnt play and i had to change the language for it to engage and then i switched it back to english.

Ill mess around with it later i suppose.
Bitstreaming is not activated on the Xbox One S yet. You won't get Atmos until they release the update.
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This one comes in for me on Tuesday but based on this review I can't wait:

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Can you guys confirm that Troll Hunters is NOT available in HDR? I can't find it if so. The netflix HDR flagging really is total ****e. If any new show calls out for HDR it's TH. If you guys haven't checked it out yet it is really terrific, some of the best bass I have heard in a tv show.

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You know what's a waste of resources? Not updating all the current players to support DV. Because if you did that, then you wouldn't need both formats at all, or any enhancement layers of any kind. All you'd need is the DV encode, as while the two systems often do have different grades (probably due to the different peak nits chosen), they don't necessarily have to. You can have a dolby vision movie decoded by a player and then "translated" to HDR10 using metadata telling it where to cap the max nits at. You could probably also have another piece of metadata which guides the tone mapping process further, similar to the lookup table information you can provide to youtube to automate the HDR-to-SDR downconversion process while retaining your preferred SDR grade.



Basically, you'd just decode the DV video, and reformat the colors to match the provided target HDR10 metadata on the player, and then send that as HDR10 to the TV. It's funny, because that kind of conversion is easily possible, while the other way around requires all this complicated enhancement layer stuff that just ends up wasting space in the end. And honestly, I don't see any reason why current players would be incapable of that. They're all firmware upgradeable, and would take minimal processing to handle it.


The reason is probably special hardware licensed to handle DV and current players with the exception of oppo lack it.

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While you're technically correct, ultimately I'm even skeptical of Dolby Vision's ability to look much better than HDR10. Even if you consider the most extreme possibility with HDR10, a 10,000 nit encode, you still have 512 shades of grey in the first 100nits, which is still a finer gradient than SDR, which honestly, I never noticed any banding in. Yes, with Dolby Vision, that increases to anywhere between 2048 and 4095 shades of grey.

In fact, 16bit could actually give you a worse gradient if the colors are stored linearly rather than on a logarithmic scale like HDR10 and DV, as then you'd only have 655 shades of grey in the first 100nits on a 16bit encode. Not exactly sure how that do it there.

That being said, all of these formats do make more substantial increases in the >100nit ranges over HDR10, but smaller changes in those ranges are less noticeable.
After netflix DV vs HDR 10 its way better than HDR 10.
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Thanks @Tom Roper , the Oppo readout for output is now showing as expected. In addition, even though this new version does appear a hair vibrant on my calibrated display (well, as far as it can be calibrated anyway; which, for HDR on the 2015 Sammys, is only 2pt grayscale)


On my js9000 on current firmware changing to custom color space appears to hold the wide color gamut and does not change any longer. I did some back and forth switching with each firmware and somewhere along the line switching between auto and custom did not show any change to the colors on the same scenes that did previously. What happened before is the reds and other deep colors like greens on trees and such would be heavily desaturated when I changed to custom and it was obvious you are loaing the extra colors. So I wonder if you could use custom and do a color calibration now.
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Just finished it. I think there might have been an issue with my xbox one s and this title. There was a haze or yellow/gold filter and it was darker than i think it should have been. I also noticed a lot of soft scenes. Atmos track didnt play and i had to change the language for it to engage and then i switched it back to english.

Ill mess around with it later i suppose.


Atmos on the Xbox one is currently beta for dashboard preview subscribers. There are bound to be some problems yet.
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Can you guys confirm that Troll Hunters is NOT available in HDR? I can't find it if so. The netflix HDR flagging really is total ****e. If any new show calls out for HDR it's TH. If you guys haven't checked it out yet it is really terrific, some of the best bass I have heard in a tv show.
Correct. Trollhunters is only 1080p SDR. The only animated HDR on Netflix right now is Knights of Sidonia.
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This one comes in for me on Tuesday but based on this review I can't wait:

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Deepwa...165360/#Review
I saw Deepwater Horizon in the theater and loved it. I too preordered the UHD HDR Atmos BD and, like you, am looking forward to getting it. If as good a job was done with the audio and video on this one as was done on the Sully UHD HDR Atmos disk, we are in for a treat.
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Edit! I made a change to the ACES output transform to correct the oversaturated reds. The download link has been replaced. The file is now really beautiful, and full ST.2084/BT.2020 compliant. Note also, the file although tagged as 4:2:0 color, is actually 4:2:2 containing twice the chroma samples.

Download link here, --> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7w...ew?usp=sharing
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I'm willing to bet the farm that existing UHD BR players will not be upgraded to support Dolby Vision. The only players that could potentially get an upgrade would be the Xbox One S and PS4 Pro (streaming only). I doubt we will see it unless they find a way to pass the DV license fee on to users based on optional activation.

After this year's CES Samsung, Panasonic, and Philips are going to have to take a hard look at their lineup. I'll be surprised if Panny doesn't about face and support DV. Philips players seem to be low budget so who knows. Samsung is the big question mark. I foresee them losing market share until they concede to adding DV. Hopefully the chipsets in their 2016 & 2017 models to support flash upgrade.
Uh-Oh!
Do you own a farm? Have you heard of the Oppo-203 Owners thread? If not, might want to stay away from that site. I have to believe that DolbyVision disc media will be here within the next few months and there has to be something that they will play on.
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Uh-Oh!
Do you own a farm? Have you heard of the Oppo-203 Owners thread? If not, might want to stay away from that site. I have to believe that DolbyVision disc media will be here within the next few months and there has to be something that they will play on.
I never said it was my farm!
Sorry if my wording was unclear. I find it doubtful that existing Samsung, Panasonic, and Philips players would be receiving Dolby Vision updates.

The Oppo BDP-203 and LG UP970 both stated DV compatibility when announced. I also believe that DV support will be announced prior to the release of the Sony UBP-X800 & X1000.
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Edit! I made a change to the ACES output transform to correct the oversaturated reds. The download link has been replaced. The file is now really beautiful, and full ST.2084/BT.2020 compliant. Note also, the file although tagged as 4:2:0 color, is actually 4:2:2 containing twice the chroma samples.

Download link here, --> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7w...ew?usp=sharing
Very nice upgrade!
The new version played, with the older version playing after.
Now a sparkle to the stream and lake.
Open gravel pit looking scene, with few clouds overhead, NOW looks like it IS a sunny day, not overcast. (Same with some other scenes as well.)
Both have the same problem, I still don't see those people on shore, catching any fish?
This will now be my NEW demo piece!
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Just saw La La Land in theaters...great film. This is going to be a reference uhd disc for wide color gamut and HDR if its anything like the theatrical version. Non stop bold color everywhere, can't wait to buy it....and I didn't even want to see it at first!
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Very nice upgrade!
The new version played, with the older version playing after.
Now a sparkle to the stream and lake.
Open gravel pit looking scene, with few clouds overhead, NOW looks like it IS a sunny day, not overcast. (Same with some other scenes as well.)
Both have the same problem, I still don't see those people on shore, catching any fish?
This will now be my NEW demo piece!
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Wow, awesome compliment, thank you!
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Bitstreaming is not activated on the Xbox One S yet. You won't get Atmos until they release the update.
If youre in preview you can have bitstream(pass through) with the bluray app. Atmos/dtsx has worked on other titles ive tried before.

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Atmos on the Xbox one is currently beta for dashboard preview subscribers. There are bound to be some problems yet.
yeah it was weird when it would work with other titles. Must be something with this disk i suppose. But i eagerly await the final build for atmos across system level/games too.
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The reason is probably special hardware licensed to handle DV and current players with the exception of oppo lack it.
I can't think of a single reason why you'd need specialized hardware for it, as long as you have the processing power necessary to read the enhancement layer and metadata.

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After netflix DV vs HDR 10 its way better than HDR 10.
I suspect the difference isn't in the technology itself, but either in how the two versions are graded, or how the TVs handle them. If it's the TVs, those benefits could easily be implemented in HDR10 TVs as well.

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Just saw La La Land in theaters...great film. This is going to be a reference uhd disc for wide color gamut and HDR if its anything like the theatrical version. Non stop bold color everywhere, can't wait to buy it....and I didn't even want to see it at first!
Has the UHD disc been confirmed? I didn't see it on Blu-ray.com, but I agree it has great potential for the format.
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Has the UHD disc been confirmed? I didn't see it on Blu-ray.com, but I agree it has great potential for the format.[/QUOTE]

Ya I dont thinks its been confirmed. Still going strong in theaters, but I assumed it would because of Lionsgate. Masterminds isn't coming out from 20th century fox on 4k disc but Keeping up with the Joneses is so anythings possible
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Has the UHD disc been confirmed? I didn't see it on Blu-ray.com, but I agree it has great potential for the format.

Ya I dont thinks its been confirmed. Still going strong in theaters, but I assumed it would because of Lionsgate. Masterminds isn't coming out from 20th century fox on 4k disc but Keeping up with the Joneses is so anythings possible
Not surprising that it's still going strong. Just arrived at my local theater this weekend, and it's probably going to surge next weekend due to its sweep at the golden globes tonight.

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Wow, awesome compliment, thank you!
I agree. I liked the richer colors myself.

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On my js9000 on current firmware changing to custom color space appears to hold the wide color gamut and does not change any longer. I did some back and forth switching with each firmware and somewhere along the line switching between auto and custom did not show any change to the colors on the same scenes that did previously. What happened before is the reds and other deep colors like greens on trees and such would be heavily desaturated when I changed to custom and it was obvious you are loaing the extra colors. So I wonder if you could use custom and do a color calibration now.
I use Chromapure 3.1, it is possible on a 2015 Samsung to do a 50% rec2020 color calibration for primary's, secondary's are apparently a whole different ball game and need to be a sum of 100% primary's, something no TV can achieve, some work will need to be done before a full 50% rec2020 CMS calibration is possible.
I don't know if other calibration studio's such as Calman have come up with a formula for this yet, i suspect not.
At the moment probably best left on Auto.
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A lot of impressive new HDR demos were at CES 2017. I'm hoping somebody forgot an USB stick and we'll see them on Youtube or demo-UHD3d soon.

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A lot of impressive new HDR demos were at CES 2017. I'm hoping somebody forgot an USB stick and we'll see them on Youtube or demo-UHD3d soon.
When you watch the HDR demos, then go and play the 4K Demos, you begin to wonder why you went all ga ga over the 4Ks originally.
Better to demo the 4Ks first, THEN the HDR.
Do you think TCL will upgrade their girls with cars, to HDR?
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I can't think of a single reason why you'd need specialized hardware for it, as long as you have the processing power necessary to read the enhancement layer and metadata.







I suspect the difference isn't in the technology itself, but either in how the two versions are graded, or how the TVs handle them. If it's the TVs, those benefits could easily be implemented in HDR10 TVs as well.







Has the UHD disc been confirmed? I didn't see it on Blu-ray.com, but I agree it has great potential for the format.

I remember oppo mentioned that they worked closely with Mediatek to make sure that any chipset they used would be capable of DV and they weren't even sure if they could get something that would do it at first even right up to launch it wasn't confirmed until they were basically ready to ship. It's probably a combination of things that have to be in place.

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I remember oppo mentioned that they worked closely with Mediatek to make sure that any chipset they used would be capable of DV and they weren't even sure if they could get something that would do it at first even right up to launch it wasn't confirmed until they were basically ready to ship. It's probably a combination of things that have to be in place.
Problem these days, ALL the HDR specs are still targets in motion! Put chip A in that will go left for DV when it becomes available, and when it does, turns out it now turns right. So much for the hardware! Add onto this, they keep updating the specs and requirements. Manufacturer's are afraid to tie up inventory that may go poof tomorrow, or the day after. Yet, they still have to make something to sell. Sometimes it pays to be a bench sitter!

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I saw the first episode of Taboo made by BBC (and FX). It is beautifully produced and filmed, but I was so let down by the atrocious quality of HBO Nordic's direct stream. There is a lot of banding, and compression macroblocking and noise in the darker parts of the image. Since the TV show is kinda dark, it is in every damn scene!

I couldn't believe how bad it was, and thought maybe HBO was serving up an inferior encoded file so I went on the torrents and downloaded the biggest file I could find, a 1080p encode in 3.7 gb, and that one has all the same problems as HBO's direct stream, so I guess that is the "best" available out there. What a shame for such an ambitious and beautifully produced TV show.

Say what you will about Netflix, especially their tardiness in regards to HDR, but at least their encoding and compression is on point.

Another great production let down by the old regime of cable and network channels that don't understand image quality. What a shame that in 2017 a big ticket production like this doesn't at least get a 25 mbps HDR HEVC release.

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Now I can afford Planet Earth II in 4K Ultra HDR!

Parcel # 1 in November, from Amazon UK, has a tracking list, as long as your arm, with flight delays, mechanical errors, out for delivery for 6 days, wrecked package, and to top it all off, UPS tried charging almost as much in charges, as the contents were worth! Amazon was told to send by ground, then turned around and gave it to UPS, who only does Air from the UK. Subsequently, they charge $10 US for Air Customs.
Amazon UK, refunded my ground shipping charges. I told UPS I was refusing the parcel due to the charges, mishandling, and UPS delivery person showing up with a wrecked package.
Parcel # 2 - Amazon sent out a replacement. UPS lets me know, it also has charges. Told them I'd refuse it as well. Received with no charges.

Parcel # 1 - Still in the UPS loop de loop! Keep getting tried to deliver , but customer refused notices, up into the New Year - since November!
Final notice came today - they've put it into UPS Lost and Found! Not even returning it to Amazon UK.

Sent the final notice to Amazon UK - result - they refunded ALL my money! So, will put towards Planet Earth II 4K Ultra HDR BD. Meanwhile, have enjoyed the second BD that was sent.

Vendors all seem to be using UPS as their carrier of choice. Subsequently, 3 out of 5 parcels having to do with UPS, were lost, destroyed and mismanaged. 1 arrived with no charges after the threat of refusal. Parcel # 5, vendor, sent via USPS, correctly addressed and was received, only after sending out via UPS, and ended up in Ontario, California, and was returned. UPS insists their address labels list Ontario, Canada as ON, CA. and get shipped to Ontario California, where they seem to disappear? No amount of e-mailing, will get vendors to put the full addrss on their labels. So, someone in Ontario, California is living the good life on a lot of misdirected parcels.

Now, as to the Planet Earth II 4K Ultra HDR, coming sometime this Spring, will it arrive on the West Coast as well?

Edit: National Geographic, finally gave into my constant e-mails about their addressing. Parcel # 1 - ON, CA. - never arrived. Parcel # 2 ON, Canada - arrived. Small victory!
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Speaking of Planet Earth 2, the UHD version is much cheaper on the Canadian site than it is on the US one. $52.49 CAD on Canadian site, and $59.99 USD on the US site.
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Well then they are imbeciles. That's insane!
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