Originally Posted by mrtickleuk
I hear you. I think everyone's learning a lot (I know I have!). Sometimes, not every time but sometimes, when people are complaining things are "too dark", they're just wrong
and was meant to be that way.
The HDR Channel on Youtube has done two excellent diagnostic videos examining this in detail.
Are we learning yet?
Discs like the arrival, are in fact, too dark if you watch movies with the lights on.
HDR10 has absolute nits value, which means that unlike the SDR version you can't simply crank up the brightness to compensate.
So in fact, the people complaining have a point. Because unless your HDR TV offers gamma adjustments to compensate (Samsung offers this with a setting called "dynamic contrast" that works really well) you may feel like the picture is unwatchable if you're unable to dim the lights in your viewing room.
Also. I have a bone to pick with a lot of the HDR grades on bluray discs.
The vast majority of discs still use the 100 nits "white point" suggestion, and then just go beyond 100 nits for highlights.
I happen to believe that this is a mistake. Yes, the grades still look nicer than straight up SDR. But it's taking out the best part out of HDR for me.
The best part about HDR for me isn't just the highlights, it's the fact that color volume on sunny scenes make the picture look completely different to anything we have seen on SDR before.
When the colorist ignores the 100 nit suggestion, HDR shows it's true potential. Outdoor scenes look as if you're outside, instead of just looking like "a picture of outside". (this is something color volume does, that can't be replicated by a 100 nit white, color looks different
at different nits)
This is the reason why HDR tech demos from manufacturers look so much better than most HDR grades on movies and netflix.
I realize that movies like the arrival were meant to be seen like that from the director. But you have to wonder what the point is of having a movie like that in HDR in the first place, if they have no desire of taking advantage of the medium in the first place.
I guarantee you that people would prefer an HDR grade of "the arrival" that not only was brighter overall, as even the highlights are extremely conservative , but also ignored the 100 nit suggestion and went beyond that for the daytime scenes (which there are plenty off)