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Here's what we're talking about:

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Thank you, yes I did find it and didn't know I could expand show info in the list. Still as I said I wish the HDR info was presented in the title next to the Ultra HD listing. For example when you scroll the list of shows and movies in UltraHD it gives you the artwork with the title and next to that it says Ultra HD. No mention of HDR up front. You have to actually select the movie and expand the information and where it gives the rating, tells you it's 5.1, and has closed captions it will say HDR. So without going through each one individually and compiling a list like this one here there's no way to tell. I'd like to see it listed as an HDR title.

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This is the same for me. Sadly, I don't think Sony's have been updated for Amazon just yet like the Samsungs have. I think the Sony update just added the HDR mode, but doesn't play the Amazon HDR yet.
I think that would be up to Amazon to update the app for Sony TVs, but I'm not sure.

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Did u read his edit? U gotta scroll over to the left and click on the specific episode info, right next to "watch now".

I actually sent amazon feedback a couple months ago about doing a better job of labeling the hdr. The struggles of being an early adopter!
Yeah I've sent them an email about it as well just now actually. They list the main info in the main listing of titles with info on closed captions and 5.1 but don't mention HDR until you actually select the movie and expand it's information. Wouldn't be much work I don't think to list it as having HDR in the main title list. Would help us looking specifically for shows and movies that have HDR.
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i won't be surprised if Sony / LG owners who got their sets updated to "support" HDR are not watching any HDR at all (i had this suspicion while reading all the comments regarding HDR in those threads) but keep on insisting that they are and it looks "so glad i didn't get that god awful edge lit TV and spent 5K on these inky blacks" good. HA!

i wish somebody with photography skills would provide some pictures of Amazon shows from 850C / 930C and EF9500 just to understand what the heck is going on with those sets.
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I'll admit M.I.H.C. looks much better with the default 20/100 than it does my usual 16/93.

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I'll admit M.I.H.C. looks much better with the default 20/100 than it does my usual 16/93.

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Normally I use 12/93 because I watch in a darkened room and 12 is as low as I could stand but when the HDR kicks in and sets to 20/100 it really livens the picture and I don't mind it. For normal content though it's too much without the HDR information.

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I'll admit M.I.H.C. looks much better with the default 20/100 than it does my usual 16/93.

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In hdr mode? If so, episodes 2 and 3 do look better than the 1st episode. Outdoor scenes are fantastic.
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Normally I use 12/93 because I watch in a darkened room and 12 is as low as I could stand but when the HDR kicks in and sets to 20/100 it really livens the picture and I don't mind it. For normal content though it's too much without the HDR information.
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possible upcoming HDR titles (Amazon):

December 11th-15th

Transparent, season 2
Interstellar
Tumble Leaf, season 2
Cutie and the Boxer

December 30th

Mozart in the Jungle, season 2
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possible upcoming HDR titles (Amazon):

December 11th-15th

Transparent, season 2
Interstellar
Tumble Leaf, season 2
Cutie and the Boxer

December 30th

Mozart in the Jungle, season 2

I seen something about interstellar coming to amazon but I didn't see a mention of 4k. Did u see anything?

Another one to keep an eye on is MGO. The Martian comes out on blu ray in early january, and usually Digtial versions go 2 streaming sites about a month beforehand. Since it's a fox film it might come to mgo as an hdr movie. So early December.
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I seen something about interstellar coming to amazon but I didn't see a mention of 4k. Did u see anything?
all i've heard is that it's going to be a "different" version to what is available now for purchasing (which is a regular 1080), i guess we just have to wait and see.

still, very excited for the new Mozart season.
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all i've heard is that it's going to be a "different" version to what is available now for purchasing (which is a regular 1080), i guess we just have to wait and see.

still, very excited for the new Mozart season.

Where'd you hear this at? If interstellar is a Sony movie it might be gauranteed, And it'll be a visual masterpiece.


Edit. It's a paramount picture. Hdr is not gauranteed because technically, a regular 4k version would be different than what's currently available. Fingers crossed.

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Complements to the person who started this thread. It is an excellent idea to have and very informative. It brings display types together without negative bickering.


One suggestion, it would be great if it could be mirrored on the OLED threads
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The Man in The High Castle, if you like the series or not you owe it to your HDR display to at least play the last episode #10 . For some reason this episode pops off the screen more than any other. Many more outdoor scenes with sunlight and superb effects. By far the best HDR I have seen to date. The effect in the very beginning with the camera light on her face is the best video I have ever seen in a home theater.

Hats off to Amazon for offering so much more 4K content and IMO taking this and 4K away from Netflix who has had the same 4K content (and not much) for 6 months.
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The Man in The High Castle, if you like the series or not you owe it to your HDR display to at least play the last episode #10 . For some reason this episode pops off the screen more than any other. Many more outdoor scenes with sunlight and superb effects. By far the best HDR I have seen to date. The effect in the very beginning with the camera light on her face is the best video I have ever seen in a home theater.

Hats off to Amazon for offering so much more 4K content and IMO taking this and 4K away from Netflix who has had the same 4K content (and not much) for 6 months.
yes amazon is simply destroying netflix in this area. 12 tv shows and 8 movies in HDR. Ive noticed over the past few months too that all the new 4k stuff that netflix adds is in crappy quality. some of the earlier stuff looked great and clean, but the recent stuff is super grainy, at least on the LCD tvs. blacklist season 1 looks tremendous. nothing else has really come close to matching it, even season 2 is a big downgrade most of the time. So im curious to see if netflix's HDR will buck that trend and get them back in the right direction.
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HOW TO FIND THE HDR TAG ON AMAZON TV SHOWS AND MOVIES.



I wrote up a quick tutorial on how to find HDR content on amazon and how to locate the HDR badge to ensure that you are watching HDR. I edited my 2nd post of this thread, so it is also located there also. i will copy and paste and add it here so that its in 2 places.


There is a lot of confusion about how to access HDR content on amazon. Amazon around november 20th revamped their UI and IMO for the worse. It now makes it extremely difficult to find the UHD material, and its even more trickier to find the HDR content.

If you do not go directly to the UHD section, you will play your tv show in only HD/1080P.

to find the HDR tv shows/movies. simply scroll all the way down to the bottom of the categories. There will be a section called "Ultra HD movies" and "Ultra HD TV shows". You MUST go to these specific categories to see any UHD or HDR stuff.

Next, if you want to find the "HDR Badge" to make sure what you are about to watch is indeed HDR, follow these next directions. **you will NOT see any type of HDR badges during playback, it is only in the movie info**


-scroll down to UHD tv section (see picture)
-click on tv show
-instead of clicking "watch now", scroll to the left and click on the episode name, this will send you into expanded info. (highlighted in yellow in picture)
-here, you will see the HDR badge right next to "CC", and "5.1" (see picture)

Unfortunately, this is the only way to know if what you are watching on amazon is in HDR. if you do not have an HDR tv, you will not see an HDR badge. Hopefully amazon in the future will make it easier to find HDR stuff.
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I seen something about interstellar coming to amazon but I didn't see a mention of 4k. Did u see anything?



Another one to keep an eye on is MGO. The Martian comes out on blu ray in early january, and usually Digtial versions go 2 streaming sites about a month beforehand. Since it's a fox film it might come to mgo as an hdr movie. So early December.

Forgot about that one. Would definitely get an HDR version. Also interstellar.
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Uh-oh! looks like somebody might be getting a 4k sports channel in the spring

no mention of HDR, but canada is going to be live streaming blue jays games in 4k HDR, so hopefully DTV goes the same route.


"DIRECTV plans to launch a 4K channel featuring sports early next year, according to AdvancedTelevision.com.

For more than a year, the satcaster has provided a smattering of 4K movies and documentaries on demand, via their own set-tops and Samsung TVs. But plans to offer at least one 24/7 channel have been delayed due to technical obstacles and a lack of available 4K content.

But Phil Goswitz, DIRECTV's senior vice president for video and space communications, says the technical issues have been resolved and the company now has the capacity to provide 50 channels in 4K. However, the lack of content remains an issue.

"There are only three questions -- where's the content? Where's the damn content? Where's the goddamn content?" Goswitz told an industry conference recently, according to AdvancedTelevision.com.


But the DIRECTV executive added that the company is working with content partners to provide a sports-oriented 4K channel "early next year." He did not specify which partners, or offer an exact date for the channel's launch, according to AdvancedTelevision.com. However, with the Consumer Electronics Show convening in early January, the satcaster could provide further details then. "


http://tvpredictions.com/directv112815.htm


heres another article from digitaltrends, also reporting the new 4k channel, possible sports.


http://www.digitaltrends.com/movies/directv-4k-service/

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Does Amazon Prime only work in US?
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also in UK, Japan, Germany and Austria. otherwise your only option is VPN.
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Upcoming HDR?

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HOW TO FIND THE HDR TAG ON AMAZON TV SHOWS AND MOVIES.



I wrote up a quick tutorial on how to find HDR content on amazon and how to locate the HDR badge to ensure that you are watching HDR. I edited my 2nd post of this thread, so it is also located there also. i will copy and paste and add it here so that its in 2 places.


There is a lot of confusion about how to access HDR content on amazon. Amazon around november 20th revamped their UI and IMO for the worse. It now makes it extremely difficult to find the UHD material, and its even more trickier to find the HDR content.

If you do not go directly to the UHD section, you will play your tv show in only HD/1080P.

to find the HDR tv shows/movies. simply scroll all the way down to the bottom of the categories. There will be a section called "Ultra HD movies" and "Ultra HD TV shows". You MUST go to these specific categories to see any UHD or HDR stuff.

Next, if you want to find the "HDR Badge" to make sure what you are about to watch is indeed HDR, follow these next directions. **you will NOT see any type of HDR badges during playback, it is only in the movie info**


-scroll down to UHD tv section (see picture)
-click on tv show
-instead of clicking "watch now", scroll to the left and click on the episode name, this will send you into expanded info. (highlighted in yellow in picture)
-here, you will see the HDR badge right next to "CC", and "5.1" (see picture)

Unfortunately, this is the only way to know if what you are watching on amazon is in HDR. if you do not have an HDR tv, you will not see an HDR badge. Hopefully amazon in the future will make it easier to find HDR stuff.
EXCELLENT TUTORIAL. wish I had this post earlier-would have saved me lots of search time. Great JOB. Now if only a way to turn off HDR on some movies as some are too dark!
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"Finally today, many of you have been asking us recently when we can expect to see the very first 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray titles to be released in stores. Out best and latest intel from studio and retail sources suggests that you’ll likely see them really start to arrive in late February – either on 2/22 or 2/29. There could be the odd indie studio title that sneaks out sooner just for “first dibs” cred, but multiple industry sources are telling us that late February is the timeframe that the major studios are currently targeting for their first release waves on the format. So adjust your plans accordingly. Obviously, we’ll post updates as we have them."
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Looking forward to more info. Especially pricing for the players and disks.
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Now if only a way to turn off HDR on some movies as some are too dark!
first of all, "dark" HDR is an oxymoron you might want to double check if your TV (what's your TV btw?) detects the HDR metadata and adjusts the picture settings accordingly. i won't comment on your desire to watch HDR juts to turn it off though
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MGO has added The Mazerunner 2: Scorch Trials in HDR.


By the way, mgo is working on expanding their service to more devices and possibly to other brands besides samsung. So sony & LG folks may get a crack at these soon.
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Please consider adding my 3 minute 4K HDR demo reel to the master list. Here is the link to it.
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Everyone, please enjoy.

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Tom,

Wonderful clip, nice job. My wife and 17 year old daughter both said it looked amazing, and my daughter rarely offers unsolicited comments on picture quality (it may have been because she's going hiking in the Sierras tomorrow).

I'm actually very impressed with HDR, The Man in the High Castle, Edge, etc. There are the scenes that are stunning and the occasional ones that seem forced to show off the HDR capability (unnecessary - like a 3D movie where they throw a yoyo at the screen - I know it's 3D, I paid extra for the ticket, don't ruin the scene with the yoyo trick).

I too have been comparing images on UHD 4K to 4K HDR, and I've picked up on a couple things. While the brightness, depth, palette and saturation are amazing, people are going to have to get used to looking at things in colors that are much closer to the actual color of the item being filmed (what it looks like if you where there in person). In fact HDR usually does, but doesn't always look as/more appealing. Natural bodies of fresh water seem to be an example where I've found the algae etc. in certain lakes - in certain lighting, in BT709 seems to produce a pretty, pleasing blue, when the HDR using A WCG shows a shade with a little brown and green in the mix.

Since they have to be calibrated differently, it may just be my settings, but I think there's something to it. As your filming HDR yourself I'd be very interested in your take on the subject.

Please continue to make your projects available!

Thanks much,
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Master List of currently available 4k HDR titles, will be updated often.

Unfortunately you cannot calibrate for color when using the native color space option on this TV. It locks you out of those options and for 4K content that used the wide color gamut you must select native color space. You can adjust the white balance but that's it. I am no expert but I think when you set to native and when you play a source with the WCG information you are getting everything the director wants you to see the way they want you to see it so there is no need to adjust.

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More likely, it's just that many (most?) 4K TVs simply don't (can't afford to) include a powerful enough GPU or a large enough Color-LookUp-Table to be able to process an incoming 4K video signal in realtime. They have to be fast enough to calculate appropriately different on-screen colors at a 60Hz refresh rate or higher.

Unfortunately, there's no way to guarantee that the color elements in the display panel (lcds, quantum dots, whatever) are the correct colors. That's why TVs have to be calibrated in order to produce accurate colors. It'll probably be a few more years before affordable 4K TVs and projectors can do that.

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