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The lightning looked pretty great on my 1500 nit lcd. Anyone looking to blown away by lighting are probably going to be somewhat disappointed on an OLED. It's just a disappointing reality unfortunately.

It's only my subjective opinion, but the hdr to me is only impressive on 1 TV in this following hdr shootout picture.
I'm more impressed I think by having blacks at 0nits while having a highlight at 500nits than having blacks at near gray or actually gray and highlights at 900+nits. After owning an OLED I'm pretty much sold on that. It doesn't seem dim at all and there are times I am almost blinded by the brightness. If the black levels were not pure black I could see what you mean. The perfect blacks combined with my dark room environment allow highlights to be very impressive even if the nit rating isn't way up there. No blooming for me which for one TV in your picture is a real problem.

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The lightning looked pretty great on my 1500 nit lcd. Anyone looking to blown away by lighting are probably going to be somewhat disappointed on an OLED. It's just a disappointing reality unfortunately.

It's only my subjective opinion, but the hdr to me is only impressive on 1 TV in this following hdr shootout picture.
The issue isn't OLED's lower nits, for a couple reasons. First of all, no part of the movie ever came close to the TV's max nits. Secondly, if that were the case, my TV's HDR Game mode actually allows for display of over 1500 nits of detail compressed into the first 600 nits of my display. When viewed in a dark environment, your eyes adjust, so it feels like you're watching a 1500+ nit OLED. Brilliant highlights in that mode absolutely look better than on my 1000 nit LED. But again, Thor Ragnarok didn't even come close to the rolloff point of 500 nits in my TV's HDR Standard mode. I also used my player's HDR10-to-DV conversion mode to see if that improved anything, and it didn't. Again, another sign that it wasn't using much of the HDR range available to them, since that conversion mode usually improves the definition of any detail that would normally be too bright for the OLED. Unfortunately the HDR metadata doesn't give us details about MaxCLL or MaxFALL for this title, so unless we can get an HDR analysis video like some of those I've seen posted here before, with the real time histograms and all that, we probably won't be able to say for sure, but I'd be surprised if the movie ever got much higher than even 300 nits.

As for X-men, that movie looks fantastic on both of my TVs, and the laser vision from Cyclops looks about 1000x more impressive than the lightning Thor makes.
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The lightning looked pretty great on my 1500 nit lcd. Anyone looking to blown away by lighting are probably going to be somewhat disappointed on an OLED. It's just a disappointing reality unfortunately.

It's only my subjective opinion, but the hdr to me is only impressive on 1 TV in this following hdr shootout picture.


lol

First of all, no, OLED TV are not too dim for HDR.
And second of all, I am way more impressed by the absolute blacks and perfect contrast of HDR with an OLED screen, than I am with the brightness of an LED TV.
No LED TV handles HDR as well as an OLED TV. HDR doesn't mean blinding brightness. It means being able to display absolute darkness and bright areas on the same image. Only OLED tv can do that (if an LED is able to do the same, it means it has clouding and you are witnessing the clouding patchs ).

That is why OLED TVs have been winning all TV shootouts for the past couple of years.
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Can we take the OLED vs. LED/LCD arguements somewhere else?
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Can we take the OLED vs. LED/LCD arguements somewhere else?
I really want to know, is there a thread that compares LED/LCD HDR10 pq to OLEDs HDR10 pq, and not DV quality... bc most discs arent DV. I want to know if I switch from my bright KS9800 to a 2017 OLED and watch all my HDR10 discs on it, I wont be super disappointed in its HDR comparatively. Thanks.
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lol

First of all, no, OLED TV are not too dim for HDR.
And second of all, I am way more impressed by the absolute blacks and perfect contrast of HDR with an OLED screen, than I am with the brightness of an LED TV.
No LED TV handles HDR as well as an OLED TV. HDR doesn't mean blinding brightness. It means being able to display absolute darkness and bright areas on the same image. Only OLED tv can do that (if an LED is able to do the same, it means it has clouding and you are witnessing the clouding patchs ).

That is why OLED TVs have been winning all TV shootouts for the past couple of years.
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I really want to know, is there a thread that compares LED/LCD HDR10 pq to OLEDs HDR10 pq, and not DV quality... bc most discs arent DV. I want to know if I switch from my bright KS9800 to a 2017 OLED and watch all my HDR10 discs on it, I wont be super disappointed in its HDR comparatively. Thanks.


I don’t think there is a thread as I haven’t seen one but there are some YouTube videos from well respected calibrators and tech people that do these comparisons. I don’t think it’s any surprise that when you go to rtings.com and use their TV selector tool and put in that you watch HDR movies that the number one recommendation is an OLED. I think the contrast ratio really makes them stand out. I know I’ve not been disappointed with my B7 OLED.

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Talked to my German friend about Annihilation dropping on Netflix out there today and he said it's HD with HDR on German Netflix.

The US should get it after it's theatrical run.
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I really want to know, is there a thread that compares LED/LCD HDR10 pq to OLEDs HDR10 pq, and not DV quality... bc most discs arent DV. I want to know if I switch from my bright KS9800 to a 2017 OLED and watch all my HDR10 discs on it, I wont be super disappointed in its HDR comparatively. Thanks.
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Talked to my German friend about Annihilation dropping on Netflix out there today and he said it's HD with HDR on German Netflix.

The US should get it after it's theatrical run.
I saw on another forum that some people are reporting 4k with DV/HDR. Hopefully some more people can confirm whether it's HD or UHD.
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I'm more impressed I think by having blacks at 0nits while having a highlight at 500nits than having blacks at near gray or actually gray and highlights at 900+nits. After owning an OLED I'm pretty much sold on that. It doesn't seem dim at all and there are times I am almost blinded by the brightness. If the black levels were not pure black I could see what you mean. The perfect blacks combined with my dark room environment allow highlights to be very impressive even if the nit rating isn't way up there. No blooming for me which for one TV in your picture is a real problem. you also came from an LCD that was only around 500 nits, so the oled is definitely brighter than your previous LCD
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lol

First of all, no, OLED TV are not too dim for HDR.
And second of all, I am way more impressed by the absolute blacks and perfect contrast of HDR with an OLED screen, than I am with the brightness of an LED TV.
No LED TV handles HDR as well as an OLED TV. HDR doesn't mean blinding brightness. It means being able to display absolute darkness and bright areas on the same image. Only OLED tv can do that (if an LED is able to do the same, it means it has clouding and you are witnessing the clouding patchs ).

That is why OLED TVs have been winning all TV shootouts for the past couple of years.


the perfect tv has not been created yet. yes, the oleds have the best blacks, but the LCDs have the best ability for highlights. But to ignorantly ignore the weakness of a technology is very Naïve. the tv all the way on the right is the TCL P series, I'm sorry but if someone with no knowledge buys a TCL p series and is not blown away from the "hype" they've heard, its because of the tvs limited capabilities. (it cant do perfect black nor great HDR highlights) In 5 years when we have tvs across the board that can do both perfect blacks and super brights, we'll all look back and laugh at these "weak" hdr tvs we have now. Even Tyler from Spectracal said that when you've seen the 4000 nit HDR tvs, it makes oled HDR look SDR.


With everyone posting their impressions of the HDR they are watching, it 100% depends on the tv they are watching. someones tv will have better blacks while others have better colors and others have brighter highlights. None of the can do all 3 yet. I don't think its too much to ask for people to just realize that.
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I saw on another forum that some people are reporting 4k with DV/HDR. Hopefully some more people can confirm whether it's HD or UHD.
Just checked and it's HDR here in the UK. I don't know about DV though.
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Woah, I just tried it out and i'm getting 4k HDR!
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Just a quick update. I'm half way through the film, and whilst I'm getting a 2160p HDR stream, the film definitely doesn't look very sharp or detailed.
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is there an 4K DV/3D combo of the last jedi anywhere in the USA or by import?
Looks like Japan has one
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With everyone posting their impressions of the HDR they are watching, it 100% depends on the tv they are watching. someones tv will have better blacks while others have better colors and others have brighter highlights. None of the can do all 3 yet. I don't think its too much to ask for people to just realize that.


Correct. That’s why I am reluctant to take reviews of hdr movies using projectors as gospel.

Before buying my OLED I viewed a Sony Z9D in a calibrated environment and even with its crazy brightness I thought OLED looked better. All the brightness and all the dimming zones on the Z9D didn’t make up for the differences in contrast ratio and blooming which the Sony did have a tiny bit of in credits. I guess it’s a matter of preference in some ways. You weigh the pros and cons and make a choice within your budget.

As it pertains to HDR this is why UHD Premium (which seems to have died) despite it's flawed testing methods, was a good thing to me. You know if the TV you are looking at is able to reproduce the HDR picture accurately. Whether you have perfect blacks and 600nits brightness or not so perfect blacks but you have 1000nits. The end result should be pretty close, the highlight stands out against the rest of the picture.

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Correct. That’s why I am reluctant to take reviews of hdr movies using projectors as gospel.

Before buying my OLED I viewed a Sony Z9D in a calibrated environment and even with its crazy brightness I thought OLED looked better. All the brightness and all the dimming zones on the Z9D didn’t make up for the differences in contrast ratio and blooming which the Sony did have a tiny bit of in credits. I guess it’s a matter of preference in some ways. You weigh the pros and cons and make a choice within your budget.

As it pertains to HDR this is why UHD Premium (which seems to have died) despite it's flawed testing methods, was a good thing to me. You know if the TV you are looking at is able to reproduce the HDR picture accurately. Whether you have perfect blacks and 600nits brightness or not so perfect blacks but you have 1000nits. The end result should be pretty close, the highlight stands out against the rest of the picture.
Or just have BestBuy, Amazon, and whoever else that sales display technology, display specs. Nits, black level and contrast ratio.

I'm worried about, Star Wars The Last Jedi having poor HDR.

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Or just have BestBuy, Amazon, and whoever else that sales display technology, display specs. Nits, black level and contrast ratio.

I'm worried about, Star Wars The Last Jedi having poor HDR.

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Who cares about Nits, black level and contrast ratio (actual) outside of those that would visit forums like this one? We are such a small portion of the buying population that it means little to those selling (outside of specialty shops). All it really is (as it’s been shown on these forums multiple times) is a “measuring stick”. Does it look ok good to you? If yes then be happy

As far as SW goes, I’m more optimistic than you. Of course I don’t think negatively in advance often.
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Who cares about Nits, black level and contrast ratio (actual) outside of those that would visit forums like this one? We are such a small portion of the buying population that it means little to those selling (outside of specialty shops). All it really is (as it’s been shown on these forums multiple times) is a “measuring stick”. Does it look ok good to you? If yes then be happy

As far as SW goes, I’m more optimistic than you. Of course I don’t think negatively in advance often.
Agreed, although I do wonder if there has been some type of agreement that prohibits BestBuy from running clips from HDR film content from disc.

I'm also just disappointed in Thor Ragnarok.

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Or just have BestBuy, Amazon, and whoever else that sales display technology, display specs. Nits, black level and contrast ratio.

I'm worried about, Star Wars The Last Jedi having poor HDR.

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No, specs don't help because most people don't understand them and they can be manipulated. Peak brightness changes depending on the content viewed, black levels measured without any bright content on screen to avoid measuring when you have lots of blooming and poor local dimming. Stuff like that. Which incidentally is why many manufacturers refused to go through UHD certification in the first place so here we are lol.

Don't be worried about Last Jedi, I saw it in Dolby Cinema and it looked great there.

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Looks like Jurassic Park 1-3 have been rescanned from their original negatives to 4k so these will be considered "real 4k".
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Looks like Jurassic Park 1-3 have been rescanned from their original negatives to 4k so these will be considered "real 4k".
I'm more worried about CG looking odd.

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Murder On The Orient Express is excellent!
Very well done resolution and HDR wise!
Although I think the movies should have been a bit longer for better character development...

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