Originally Posted by Musician
You are right, 4K Dolby Vision on the 6 series is limited to 24 & 30Hz, but not
50 or 60Hz as discussed in a number of threads including this one...
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Originally Posted by bull3964
Yeah, they are either 720p60 or 1080i60. I was just pointing out that for scripted content, 24fps is still pretty much the standard. When you said "commonly created content for TV", that seemed to encompass most of what's shown in prime time and I wanted to make the distinction the vast majority of prime time content is 24fps. Unless you are watching a reality TV show or sports, pretty much everything you find airing between your 8-11 pm slot is going to be 24fps.
Aha. We are both definitely on the same page on this. It's terminology and the differences in content, clearly. If "everything between 8pm-11pm" over there is scripted drama, that's vastly
different to over here. That is the source of the/my confusion. I assumed you had a more mixed schedule but i deduce you have almost all drama during peak time.
It's kinda funny that soap operas are at 60fps because they were made that way for cost cutting (video instead of film due to the sheer number of episodes and production schedule.)
Things are a bit different in the UK since video was far more commonly used for television programs so 50hz for scripted content is far more common. It was just different production pipelines. US shows were treated more like movie productions and were almost always shot on film (for example, Star Trek: The Original Series or Lost in Space) rather than shot on video (like Doctor Who.) Video editing tools were almost non-existent, so productions shot on video were often "camera cut" (showing a complete take from a single camera in a scene.) BBC TV had its roots in live productions and that "stage play shot live" sort of production carried over to when they moved to pre-recorded content so video was more easily used (which was far cheaper.)
Now, of course, almost everything today is shot digitally on video, but traditions stick. It's very rare for any scripted content outside of soap operas to be higher than 24fps in the US. One exception I can think of is during the 2nd season of the original Twilight Zone, they switched to videotape to cut production costs due to a budget deficit. They found shooting on video too technically limiting though (due to the before mentioned difficulty in editing), so they switched back to film later.
Agree with all of that. In the 1990s the UK broadcasters went through a horrible phase of shooting digitally at 50fps, and then post-processing to make a "film look", throwing away 50% of the temporal resolution data
, and broadcasting a flickering 25fps mess. It was very early days of such filters. Viewers hated it.
But yeah, the issue with Dolby Vision not showing up on some episodes is a framerate issue being above 24fps. I was going to check to see what the native framerate was on those episodes using my Roku and receiver, but it seems as though Netflix "solved" their preview issue with auto switching framerate by just locking everything into 60hz.
Just for fun, here's tonight's schedule of the five bigger stations in the UK. Everything is broadcast as HD 1080i50. But I will tag which of these are scripted dramas, and which are NOT 50 smooth fields/sec.
8:00pm - Eastenders. Soap. Scripted drama but definitely 50i
8:30pm - Would I Lie to You?: ...At Christmas. Panel show. Repeat. ("re-run")
9:00pm - Celebrity MasterChef. Reality.
10:00pm - News.
10:35pm - This Country. Mockumentary/comedy. Scripted drama.
11:05pm - Murder in Successville. Comedy. Scripted drama. Repeat.
11:35pm - Live at the Apollo. Stand-up comedy. Repeat.
8:00pm - Only Connect. Panel show.
8:30pm - University Challenge. Quiz show (university students).
9:00pm - Rise of the Nazis. Documentary.
10:00pm - I Love The 1990s. Documentary.
10:30pm - Newsnight. (News)
11:15pm - China: A New World Order. Documentary.
Actually I can't be bothered to type the others - but very little scripted drama as you can see. The only ones I think could possibly not be 50i are "This Country" and "Murder in Successville" if they were created specifically to sell overseas, but I very much doubt it.
As you say, very different production history over on your side of the pond