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Hopefully the rest of the Tarantino library is not far behind
That would be amazing. Inglorious bastards is one of my favorite movies
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Tarantino himself is not big on 4K or HDR but there are a few that are 4K now.


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I believe his recent movie with Brad Pitt and Leo was the 1 that broke the seal.

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I believe his recent movie with Brad Pitt and Leo was the 1 that broke the seal.







This 1 is coming also.


And that was an excellent movie too but there’s also Django and the Hateful Eight in 4K.


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I was just looking around and noticed Netflix has a show called Moving Art, which is basically nature program B-roll eye candy that you can use as demo material while not actually paying attention to your TV; maybe background stuff while entertaining. And season 3 is in 4k HDR (1-2 are 4k SDR).



Undone is not in 4k HDR
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Anybody else with a Dolby Vision set try this out? I’ve only tried it on my E6 and it kicked my TV into regular HDR mode and not Dolby Vision. I’ll try my other sets later on tonight after football is over...
I had a similar experience with the last couple seasons of Black Mirror on the internal app of my LG B6. The menu states Dolby Vision but the playback is in HDR 10 only. I believe the issue is that Dolby Vision playback on the B6 is limited to certain frame rates and these European produced series don't align with those supported frame rates. I'm guessing this was corrected in later years of the LG OLEDs.

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Is it me or was John Wick 3 fight scenes off in a few parts. It’s as if they either forgot to speed it up or they just didn’t care.
Halle Berry’s fight scenes were like an afterthought and pretty bad!


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I had a similar experience with the last couple seasons of Black Mirror on the internal app of my LG B6. The menu states Dolby Vision but the playback is in HDR 10 only. I believe the issue is that Dolby Vision playback on the B6 is limited to certain frame rates and these European produced series don't align with those supported frame rates. I'm guessing this was corrected in later years of the LG OLEDs.
I think that 4K Dolby Vision playback doesn't operate higher than 30Hz on your TV, unfortunately. (It's not really because it's European, 50Hz, since if it were American it would have been 60Hz!). Commonly series created for broadcast TV would be 50/60Hz but there's a trend of Netflix/Amazon titles to be created at 24Hz for that "film" like look. That's why most of the Netflix 24Hz content works.
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yea, someone just PM'd me that you have to have the slip in hand while redeeming. going to pull the picture and mail it to the one who messaged me first. very sorry to all.
Thanks so much @ korsjs for your kind posts of free codes!!!

I would like to follow that and donate some FREE 4k codes to the group!!!

These are Fox redeem codes. Please go to www.foxredeem.com then enter the code. (do not enter these in Movies Anywhere, that will only result in HD redemption.)

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Enter the code, Choose iTunes, and then you get 4K redemption!!! (that will give you 4K in MA)

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Thanks so much @ korsjs for your kind posts of free codes!!!

I would like to follow that and donate another FREE 4k codes to the group!!!

These are Fox redeem codes. Please go to www.foxredeem.com then enter the code. (do not enter these in Movies Anywhere, that will only result in HD redemption.)

www.foxredeem.com

Enter the code, Choose iTunes, and then you get 4K redemption!!! (that will give you 4K in MA)

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Is it me or was John Wick 3 fight scenes off in a few parts. It’s as if they either forgot to speed it up or they just didn’t care.
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I didn't notice the fight scenes so much but this was my least favorite of the John Wick movies. There were so many fight scenes that they all ran together for me.
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I didn't notice the fight scenes so much but this was my least favorite of the John Wick movies. There were so many fight scenes that they all ran together for me.


Story was a bit stupid. Especially about the man above the table and how to find him!
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Commonly series created for broadcast TV would be 50/60Hz but there's a trend of Netflix/Amazon titles to be created at 24Hz for that "film" like look. That's why most of the Netflix 24Hz content works.
Scripted TV (aside from soap operas) are all filmed at 24fps in the US. Doesn't matter if it's broadcast, netflix, or amazon.

The broadcast standards are 60hz, but that's achieved with 3:2 conversion.
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Scripted TV (aside from soap operas) are all filmed at 24fps in the US. Doesn't matter if it's broadcast, netflix, or amazon.

The broadcast standards are 60hz, but that's achieved with 3:2 conversion.
Sure, of course. But your soaps, panel shows, talking heads, news etc should all be proper 60Hz with 60 actual different smooth movements each second (either interlaced or not). Here, those programmes are all proper 50Hz with 50 actual different smooth movements each second (either interlaced or not). When you watch these things on the BBC's catchup service (iPlayer), they de-interlace it and create a 25fps version - throwing away 50% of the temporal resolution - and the jerkiness is quite stark and easily noticeable when compared to the super-smooth 50fps original broadcast.

Anyway - I tried to check Black Mirror for the OP but the Netflix Info screen didn't give me the frame-rate
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I think that 4K Dolby Vision playback doesn't operate higher than 30Hz on your TV, unfortunately. (It's not really because it's European, 50Hz, since if it were American it would have been 60Hz!). Commonly series created for broadcast TV would be 50/60Hz but there's a trend of Netflix/Amazon titles to be created at 24Hz for that "film" like look. That's why most of the Netflix 24Hz content works.
You are right, 4K Dolby Vision on the 6 series is limited to 24 & 30Hz, but not 50 or 60Hz as discussed in a number of threads including this one...

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Just so happens on the Apple TV 4K you can set it to Match Range and Frame Rate. Along with that my TV offers a header that provides the resolution and frame rate it is receiving from a connected device so @Gillietalls and @BigJeff can see that Black Mirror is one of those rare Netflix exceptions displayed in 3840 x 2160 @ 50 as shown in the thumbnail below rather than the usual 24Hz used for that “film like look”.
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Sure, of course. But your soaps, panel shows, talking heads, news etc should all be proper 60Hz with 60 actual different smooth movements each second (either interlaced or not). (
Yeah, they are either 720p60 or 1080i60. I was just pointing out that for scripted content, 24fps is still pretty much the standard. When you said "commonly created content for TV", that seemed to encompass most of what's shown in prime time and I wanted to make the distinction the vast majority of prime time content is 24fps. Unless you are watching a reality TV show or sports, pretty much everything you find airing between your 8-11 pm slot is going to be 24fps.

It's kinda funny that soap operas are at 60fps because they were made that way for cost cutting (video instead of film due to the sheer number of episodes and production schedule.)

Things are a bit different in the UK since video was far more commonly used for television programs so 50hz for scripted content is far more common. It was just different production pipelines. US shows were treated more like movie productions and were almost always shot on film (for example, Star Trek: The Original Series or Lost in Space) rather than shot on video (like Doctor Who.) Video editing tools were almost non-existent, so productions shot on video were often "camera cut" (showing a complete take from a single camera in a scene.) BBC TV had its roots in live productions and that "stage play shot live" sort of production carried over to when they moved to pre-recorded content so video was more easily used (which was far cheaper.)

Now, of course, almost everything today is shot digitally on video, but traditions stick. It's very rare for any scripted content outside of soap operas to be higher than 24fps in the US. One exception I can think of is during the 2nd season of the original Twilight Zone, they switched to videotape to cut production costs due to a budget deficit. They found shooting on video too technically limiting though (due to the before mentioned difficulty in editing), so they switched back to film later.

But yeah, the issue with Dolby Vision not showing up on some episodes is a framerate issue being above 24fps. I was going to check to see what the native framerate was on those episodes using my Roku and receiver, but it seems as though Netflix "solved" their preview issue with auto switching framerate by just locking everything into 60hz.
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After a few emails I was finally able to redeem my John Wick 3 code in iTunes and use the app and QR for Vudu. So I thought I'd pass this code on. Again, it's been used for iTunes but not Vudu, etc. Hope someone here can use it. Please let me know if it works.
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After a few emails I was finally able to redeem my John Wick 3 code in iTunes and use the app and QR for Vudu. So I thought I'd pass this code on. Again, it's been used for iTunes but not Vudu, etc. Hope someone here can use it. Please let me know if it works.
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"Infinity Saga" box set was officially announced. No date or any other information. Will likely be quite costly, although you really have to wonder how this new box set will be able to compete with the new Disney+ service which seems to be dumping nearly all the marvel movies in 4k onto it.


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"Infinity Saga" box set was officially announced. No date or any other information. Will likely be quite costly, although you really have to wonder how this new box set will be able to compete with the new Disney+ service which seems to be dumping nearly all the marvel movies in 4k onto it.

https://marvelstudiosnews.com/2019/0...-marvel-vault/
I would guess that most people on these threads also already own the movies so why would you need to buy again unless you're a collector?
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Yeah, they are either 720p60 or 1080i60. I was just pointing out that for scripted content, 24fps is still pretty much the standard. When you said "commonly created content for TV", that seemed to encompass most of what's shown in prime time and I wanted to make the distinction the vast majority of prime time content is 24fps. Unless you are watching a reality TV show or sports, pretty much everything you find airing between your 8-11 pm slot is going to be 24fps.
Aha. We are both definitely on the same page on this. It's terminology and the differences in content, clearly. If "everything between 8pm-11pm" over there is scripted drama, that's vastly different to over here. That is the source of the/my confusion. I assumed you had a more mixed schedule but i deduce you have almost all drama during peak time.

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Things are a bit different in the UK since video was far more commonly used for television programs so 50hz for scripted content is far more common. It was just different production pipelines. US shows were treated more like movie productions and were almost always shot on film (for example, Star Trek: The Original Series or Lost in Space) rather than shot on video (like Doctor Who.) Video editing tools were almost non-existent, so productions shot on video were often "camera cut" (showing a complete take from a single camera in a scene.) BBC TV had its roots in live productions and that "stage play shot live" sort of production carried over to when they moved to pre-recorded content so video was more easily used (which was far cheaper.)

Now, of course, almost everything today is shot digitally on video, but traditions stick. It's very rare for any scripted content outside of soap operas to be higher than 24fps in the US. One exception I can think of is during the 2nd season of the original Twilight Zone, they switched to videotape to cut production costs due to a budget deficit. They found shooting on video too technically limiting though (due to the before mentioned difficulty in editing), so they switched back to film later.
Agree with all of that. In the 1990s the UK broadcasters went through a horrible phase of shooting digitally at 50fps, and then post-processing to make a "film look", throwing away 50% of the temporal resolution data, and broadcasting a flickering 25fps mess. It was very early days of such filters. Viewers hated it.

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But yeah, the issue with Dolby Vision not showing up on some episodes is a framerate issue being above 24fps. I was going to check to see what the native framerate was on those episodes using my Roku and receiver, but it seems as though Netflix "solved" their preview issue with auto switching framerate by just locking everything into 60hz.
Just for fun, here's tonight's schedule of the five bigger stations in the UK. Everything is broadcast as HD 1080i50. But I will tag which of these are scripted dramas, and which are NOT 50 smooth fields/sec.

BBC 1
8:00pm - Eastenders. Soap. Scripted drama but definitely 50i
8:30pm - Would I Lie to You?: ...At Christmas. Panel show. Repeat. ("re-run")
9:00pm - Celebrity MasterChef. Reality.
10:00pm - News.
10:35pm - This Country. Mockumentary/comedy. Scripted drama.
11:05pm - Murder in Successville. Comedy. Scripted drama. Repeat.
11:35pm - Live at the Apollo. Stand-up comedy. Repeat.

BBC 2
8:00pm - Only Connect. Panel show.
8:30pm - University Challenge. Quiz show (university students).
9:00pm - Rise of the Nazis. Documentary.
10:00pm - I Love The 1990s. Documentary.
10:30pm - Newsnight. (News)
11:15pm - China: A New World Order. Documentary.

Actually I can't be bothered to type the others - but very little scripted drama as you can see. The only ones I think could possibly not be 50i are "This Country" and "Murder in Successville" if they were created specifically to sell overseas, but I very much doubt it.

As you say, very different production history over on your side of the pond

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I would guess that most people on these threads also already own the movies so why would you need to buy again unless you're a collector?


I mean I think it’s aimed at collectors and those that haven’t purchased most or any of the movies. As far as Disney+ goes, I would say folks still want lossless audio and the better bitrate of disk. There are still those without the internet speeds to get 4K as well.
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Aha. We are both definitely on the same page on this. It's terminology and the differences in content, clearly. If "everything between 8pm-11pm" over there is scripted drama, that's vastly different to over here. That is the source of the/my confusion. I assumed you had a more mixed schedule but i deduce you have almost all drama during peak time.
Well, hour long drama or half hour comedy. But even the comedies are 24fps.

There is a decent bit of reality TV, but most networks usually only have a few hours a week. For example, looking at ABC's fall TV schedule, the breakdown in primetime Mon-Fri is 2hr reality, 11 hr sitcom or drama, 1 hour news/docu. CBS, NBC, and FOX are all similar.
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Seinfeld is coming to Netflix in 2021. A Surprise twist is That it will also be in 4k. No word on HDR yet, but I would assume not but we'll see in 2 years.
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Seinfeld is coming to Netflix in 2021. A Surprise twist is That it will also be in 4k. No word on HDR yet, but I would assume not but we'll see in 2 years.
Good news as I've been waiting to see this one. I never saw it when it was on broadcast TV. I would also like to see "Everybody Loves Raymond" sometime. I've only seen a few episodes here and there.
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Seinfeld is coming to Netflix in 2021. A Surprise twist is That it will also be in 4k. No word on HDR yet, but I would assume not but we'll see in 2 years.
Presumably cropped, from the original 4:3, down to 16:9, with the top/bottom chopped off? I do hope not.
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Presumably cropped, from the original 4:3, down to 16:9, with the top/bottom chopped off? I do hope not.


It’s been opened up/cropped for years since they did they HD masters. Not that big of a deal. If you want 4:3 stick to SD (pre HD masters).
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Well, hour long drama or half hour comedy. But even the comedies are 24fps.

There is a decent bit of reality TV, but most networks usually only have a few hours a week. For example, looking at ABC's fall TV schedule, the breakdown in primetime Mon-Fri is 2hr reality, 11 hr sitcom or drama, 1 hour news/docu. CBS, NBC, and FOX are all similar.
I am not disagreeing with you but I think it all boils down to the fact that most of the stuff our household watches * during prime time * is reality TV, news shows like Dateline, 48 hours, game shows, documentaries, and the like as opposed to sitcoms and TV dramas... otherwise we are more inclined to be watching primarily movie content shot and displayed in their native frame rate either on UHD BD or via streaming services like Netflix.

In an attempt to educate myself (with the least amount of reading ) I came across the following YouTube video described as follows...

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Movies/TV Shows are all shot at 24fps for some stupid reason. I made this short clip just for comparison and to try and understand the complaint people make about it being "too smooth" or "too realistic" but I can't - it's just objectively better. These isn't even real 60fps - it's interpolated (fake frames generated and inserted between real ones). We could have all movies and shows like this if these people didn't complain.
To my eyes, as well as the person who posted the video, the right side 60fps “interpolated” version (which is what my cable company delivers according to my Samsung TV’s Info panel combined with the hardware specifications of my Arris 4K STB) is much smoother than the left side 24fps... especially when the truck drives by.


But since not much of this broadcast prime time TV discussion has anything to do with the subject of this 4K HDR Content thread (yet), for those who haven’t seen it let me bring us back on track with a PSA from Tom Cruise...

Here's The Viral Video Of Tom Cruise Explaining Why Movies Look Like Soap Operas On Your TV And How To Fix It

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Do we have a date on GOT S8 or the Daniel Craig Bonds? I am still holding off watching the last season and waiting for the UHD!


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