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I think Prime has a better track record for 4k HDR content and video quality than Netflix does. There are a few really good shows on Netflix with regard to 4k HDR but many more on Prime in my opinion. Unfortunately I usually like the story lines better on the Netflix shows so I watch more of those.
I'm not so sure. On Netflix the good looking shows/movies I've seen in the last year or so are

Punisher
Another Life
Jessica Jones
Iron Fist
Polar
Daredevil
Insatiable
Outlaw King
Luke Cage
Umbrella Academy
Mowgli

Whereas on Amazon I have

Carnival Row
Modern Love
The Tick

There are other shows that have some decent qualities like Hanna, Grand Tour, or Jack Ryan, but they have issues in other areas like raised black levels with the first two and while it has a good overall look, Jack Ryan doesn't expand much into the HDR space aside from a few moments throughout the season.

Also, I don't have them on the list because it's been longer, but on Netflix there was also Altered Carbon and Lost in Space which looked fantastic.

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I'm not so sure. On Netflix the good looking shows/movies I've seen in the last year or so are

Punisher
Another Life
Jessica Jones
Iron Fist
Polar
Daredevil
Insatiable
Outlaw King
Luke Cage
Umbrella Academy
Mowgli

Whereas on Amazon I have

Carnival Row
Modern Love
The Tick

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It's probably just my perception then because I must watch 5 times more 4k titles on Netflix than I do on Prime so it ends up being a higher percentage of high quality video titles on Prime as compared to Netflix?
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It's probably just my perception then because I must watch 5 times more 4k titles on Netflix than I do on Prime so it ends up being a higher percentage of high quality video titles on Prime as compared to Netflix?
Might be the case for you I suppose. I did check my average HDR scores though for both and I have Netflix at an average of 72 and Amazon at an average of 67 so even with all content factored together I have Netflix rated higher. I think DV in general tends to get a higher score from me though, so that might be part of it.
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Lol. Sorry to report t'was only SDR coffee. Saving the HDR coffee for Saturday morning. And that usually contains a little Irish. Makes the fall colors really pop.
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It's probably just my perception then because I must watch 5 times more 4k titles on Netflix than I do on Prime so it ends up being a higher percentage of high quality video titles on Prime as compared to Netflix?
Another factor which may play into this, is that there's a lot more Dolby Vision content on Netflix. Over on Amazon Prime only 1 or 2 TV series which have HDR are in Dolby Vision. The rest of the HDR titles are HDR10.
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Netflix added Dancing with the Birds in 4K HDR today. It’s a documentary about birds of paradise narrated by Stephen Fry, basically like a new episode of Our Planet.
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It's probably just my perception then because I must watch 5 times more 4k titles on Netflix than I do on Prime so it ends up being a higher percentage of high quality video titles on Prime as compared to Netflix?
Another factor which may play into this, is that there's a lot more Dolby Vision content on Netflix. Over on Amazon Prime only 1 or 2 TV series which have HDR are in Dolby Vision. The rest of the HDR titles are HDR10.
Supposedly they are all HDR10+

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Supposedly they are all HDR10+
HDR10+ isn't the same thing as Dolby Vision. Dolby Vision isn't just the dynamic metadata, it's got an incredibly smart tonemapping system that takes into account both your TV's capabilities, and the capabilities of the mastering display before designing a curve that does its best job reproducing what the colorist saw on their mastering display as closely as possible, and does this every scene. HDR10+ doesn't really do anything like that. It changes tonemapping every scene, but relies on some pretty basic tonemapping curves built into the TV.
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Not sure why Netflix released it on Thursday, but the new post-apocalyptic high school series Daybreak is out today in 4k HDR.
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HDR10+ isn't the same thing as Dolby Vision. Dolby Vision isn't just the dynamic metadata, it's got an incredibly smart tonemapping system that takes into account both your TV's capabilities, and the capabilities of the mastering display before designing a curve that does its best job reproducing what the colorist saw on their mastering display as closely as possible, and does this every scene. HDR10+ doesn't really do anything like that. It changes tonemapping every scene, but relies on some pretty basic tonemapping curves built into the TV.
Yes indeed. But it's very difficult to explain the nuances of that to most people. Even among my peers who know what HDR is (a tiny number of people), they think HDR10+ is basically like Dolby Vision.

For anyone to understand your paragraph above, they need to understand what tone-mapping is. I've pointed people in the past to Vincent's excellent video comparing tone-mapping approaches on 3 TVs, which is probably the most easy to understand explanation of what tone-mapping is on YouTube. But it's not a short video! Just like Vincent explains that you have to choose between preserving highlight detail or peak brightness, so equally you can either explain Dolby Vision properly taking a long time, or improperly and miss out crucial details. Sadly the former bores my friends to tears, that may say something about me but I think it also means that Joe Public may never really believe that HDR10+ isn't in the same league as Dolby Vision. It's too complicated

ps. I'd also add the ICtCp colour space. I know some users have pointed out that a 4K version of a movie at 4:2:0 YCrCb will be better than the HD version and contain more colour information. A little bit like seeing the colour information at HD 4:4:4.
So you could say that the 4:2:0 ICtCp is better than 4:2:0 YCrCb because it contains less chroma cross-talk in the chroma sub-sampling etc. Try explaining THAT to a bunch of people who don't really care

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Well @ray0414 , I got an early package today; let's see how restored film from 1939, scanned at 8K holds up, eh? Also, there's a DoVi and HDR-10+ logo on the disk (too bad I'm not HDR-10+ capable )
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Had no idea Terminator Salvation was dropping on Oct. 28th - complete pleasant surprise! Will def. pick it up as I watched it in theaters but felt the grain and poor resolution left much to be desired.



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https://us.zavvi.com/blu-ray/termina...B&gclsrc=aw.ds
Are you sure this is valid since I'm not seeing it anywhere else for sale (such as Amazon or BB)? This must be outside the States, correct?
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Had no idea Terminator Salvation was dropping on Oct. 28th - complete pleasant surprise! Will def. pick it up as I watched it in theaters but felt the grain and poor resolution left much to be desired.

https://us.zavvi.com/blu-ray/termina...B&gclsrc=aw.ds
Are you sure this is valid since I'm not seeing it anywhere else for sale (such as Amazon or BB)? This must be outside the States, correct?
You can get it delivered to the US but might be an overseas release only. Zavvi is a trusted site.

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Well @ray0414 , I got an early package today; let's see how restored film from 1939, scanned at 8K holds up, eh? Also, there's a DoVi and HDR-10+ logo on the disk (too bad I'm not HDR-10+ capable )

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You can get it delivered to the US but might be an overseas release only. Zavvi is a trusted site.
amazon.co.uk has it cheaper.
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Yes it’s valid, hasn’t been announced for the US yet.
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Haven't seen this in ages. How did it look when the Technicolor hits? Hopefully it's upgraded Tuesday on iTunes.

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Glad to see some others interested in Salvation. I thought I was one of the weird ones who have liked all of the Terminator movies, not just 1 and 2, lol. Hopefully the HDR is good on it, I think there's some potential there if my memory serves me right. How was Genisys in HDR? I never got that one. I know T2 supposedly wasn't all that great.
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Glad to see some others interested in Salvation. I thought I was one of the weird ones who have liked all of the Terminator movies, not just 1 and 2, lol. Hopefully the HDR is good on it, I think there's some potential there if my memory serves me right. How was Genisys in HDR? I never got that one. I know T2 supposedly wasn't all that great.
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Unfortunately Australia doesn't export to the USA Im pretty sure. I always liked Salvation also.

Fun tid bit. There's a guy on bluray.com that did VFX work for the new Terminator movie and he voiced his displeasure about some of the production choices.. See picture attached.
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Unfortunately Australia doesn't export to the USA Im pretty sure. I always liked Salvation also.

Fun tid bit. There's a guy on bluray.com that did VFX work for the new Terminator movie and he voiced his displeasure about some of the production choices.. See picture attached.
Man I'll never understand why Hollywood has been so afraid of mixing lower res VFX with higher res source footage. Catalog titles that composited low res VFX optically like Jurassic Park and The Matrix prove that there's zero reason to downres the whole movie just because of VFX. Even if it's VFX heavy.

But there's also zero reason for so many movies to still be 2K and yet here we are.
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Most likely tomorrow night, @ray0414 , I was tempted to sneak a peek, but I want to give it a proper viewing, and hopefully be wowed as it unfolds
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I watched Charlie's Angels 4K disc last night and the picture and sound quality was great! One of the best 4K movies I have watched.
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I watched Charlie's Angels 4K disc last night and the picture and sound quality was great! One of the best 4K movies I have watched.
How was the story, I'm hoping better than the 2000 version?
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