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I don't have a theory. I asked for the reasoning behind yours. What if the Samsung guy confirms that the HU sets are 8 bit? What will you do then?
They can't confirm something that is not . They have it listed in parts as 10 bits we have a high level Samsung rep saying it's 10 bit on Camera. We tested it with GPU's and 10 bit materials which we tested for colours,shades the steps and if dithering was present, we have EDID reading of panel which show it is native 10 bit and same panel as JS 9500/9000 they @ this point have no choice . I guess my reaction would be the same as if somebody told me I was a White male as I am Canadian of Jamaican dissent.

The evidence is overwhelming seriously your asking what is my reason behind my theory? Edid of panel says 10 bits and 12 bit capable(only a 10 bit can do this for a fact). Edid reveals Js9500/9000 is same panel made same date with same serial number. Tested on computer and 12 bit processing was selected and displayed which is only possible with 10 bit panel or native 12 bit which does not exist yet for 4k tv's. Hdr on HU with sek look exactly the same as Js9000 minus 8% colour saturation(quantum dots) New 4k Bluray player list 10 bits and Bt 2020 being displayed. Set passing all 10 bit test images. Like I stated overwhelming evidence now we see if Samsung admits or not.
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I haven't confirmed that; I assumed that all SUHD models use 10-bit panels. I will confirm this, but I probably won't get a response until next week.
Scott, has Samsung confirmed this along with being FALD ,especially in regards to their JS7000 SUHD's ?

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Gimmick?

Call me crazy but this all sounds like a gimmick. My point being in the picture used in the article where it shows HDR off and HDR on. I'm an amateur photographer and play around with HDR images. If I throw that HDR image on my screen I see the lights and darks better and my screen isn't HDR, it's the fact that I took multiple images with varying exposures and put them together into one. If my regular screen can show the emphasis of the "HDR" image on the front page, doesn't that make my screen HDR? I don't buy into this to be honest, seems like a money grab.

HDR camera, I can buy into that but HDR display seems like a gimmick.
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Call me crazy but this all sounds like a gimmick. My point being in the picture used in the article where it shows HDR off and HDR on. I'm an amateur photographer and play around with HDR images. If I throw that HDR image on my screen I see the lights and darks better and my screen isn't HDR, it's the fact that I took multiple images with varying exposures and put them together into one. If my regular screen can show the emphasis of the "HDR" image on the front page, doesn't that make my screen HDR? I don't buy into this to be honest, seems like a money grab.

HDR camera, I can buy into that but HDR display seems like a gimmick.
Actually I felt exactly the same as you and couldn't really see what these guys were raving about for the last year based on the pictures they were posting on AVS being viewed on my iPad.

Sounds crazy, but once you have seen it in person it is mind blowing seeing a bright moon in the dark sky or the reflection of sun off he water or mountains or peaking through the shadows of the forest for example. Like nothing you have seen before on a TV (or movie) screen.

I think the picture in the article was exageratted and unless you have access to video encoded with the HDR metadata and an HDR-Capable screen you are never going to experience what this new phenomenon is that has everyone so excited.

Kinda like the images we see on advertising material for any TV out there going way back where in small print it says "Simulated Picture".

Photos used to convey HDR are nothing like what you will experience in person. I guarantee it!


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Call me crazy but this all sounds like a gimmick. My point being in the picture used in the article where it shows HDR off and HDR on. I'm an amateur photographer and play around with HDR images. If I throw that HDR image on my screen I see the lights and darks better and my screen isn't HDR, it's the fact that I took multiple images with varying exposures and put them together into one. If my regular screen can show the emphasis of the "HDR" image on the front page, doesn't that make my screen HDR? I don't buy into this to be honest, seems like a money grab.

HDR camera, I can buy into that but HDR display seems like a gimmick.
None of the images in this thead are truly HDR.

Basically, what you have been doing in photography is HDR capture (or multiple SDR captures with different exposures) with tone mapping applied to produce a resulting image that fits within the dynamic range of a standard display. At that point, the image you see on your display no longer has a high dynamic range. It's dynamic range has been squashed.

With HDR displays, light output is greatly increased while maintaining or even improving black level in order to produce an image with much higher contrast potential. Because the display can do this, you can then capture HDR stills/video and greatly reduce or even eliminate the need to compress the dynamic range. The resulting image is more life-like as it retains more of the contrast one would see if they had actually been there to witness the scenery.

On top of improved contrast, HDR displays are also able to reproduce a wider color gamut with purer primaries and high levels of color saturation than your average display. They are also required to support higher bit depths, allowing content creators to expand the dynamic range of content without significant contouring/banding. And they use an improved EOTF that allows those greater number of gradations to be used more efficiently, so as to better match human visual perception.
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HDR displays also remove all obstacles or standards that are in their way
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My LG 79inch UB98 uhd tv has deep color 10 bit, it states it above humidity port 3, problem is port 1 is the hdcp 2.2 compliant?

So how would my TV fit in the hdr circle, can the my LG Display the 10 bit color without being hooked up to hdmi port 3?
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My LG 79inch UB98 uhd tv has deep color 10 bit, it states it above humidity port 3, problem is port 1 is the hdcp 2.2 compliant?

So how would my TV fit in the hdr circle, can the my LG Display the 10 bit color without being hooked up to hdmi port 3?
Took me a minute to figure out what a "humidity port" is.

Your question can probably be better addressed over here in this thread but from my quick review that particular model does not support HDR as it is not upgradeable to HDMI 2.0a...

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/166-lc...l#post32797873

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Scott, has Samsung confirmed this along with being FALD ,especially in regards to their JS7000 SUHD's ?
Look a page back they did indeed confirm that Js7000 is fald with less zones.

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Look a page back they did indeed confirm that Js7000 is fald with less zones.
I think he's referring to whether the JS7000 has a 10 bit or a 8 bit panel. And NO, the JS7000 is not a FALD television. For Pete sakes this is complete non sense.

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I think he's referring to whether the JS7000 has a 10 bit or a 8 bit panel. And NO, the JS7000 is not a FALD television. For Pete sakes this is complete non sense.
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I just confirmed with the principal engineer of TV R&D at Samsung that the JS7000 is, in fact, FALD. It has many fewer dimming zones than, say, the JS9500—they won't say how many zones the JS7000 has—but it does have full-array backlighting with local dimming, so it is, in fact, FALD.
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I think he's referring to whether the JS7000 has a 10 bit or a 8 bit panel. And NO, the JS7000 is not a FALD television. For Pete sakes this is complete non sense.
Well then you tell @Scott Wilkinson it isn't because it's on "the list" under LCD-FALD TVs (see attached thumbnail).

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/286-la...l#post41709977

It is also mentioned in this review as "a quantum-dot set with full-array local dimming" television.

http://www.itworld.com/article/29493...and-a-leg.html

Oh, and even Samsung says it is on their website.

http://www.samsung.com/us/video/tvs/UN60JS7000FXZA

But hey, what does Samsung know, lol.
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Well then you tell @Scott Wilkinson it isn't because it's on "the list" under LCD-FALD TVs (see attached thumbnail).

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/286-la...l#post41709977

It is also mentioned in this review as "a quantum-dot set with full-array local dimming" television.

http://www.itworld.com/article/29493...and-a-leg.html

Oh, and even Samsung says it is on their website.

http://www.samsung.com/us/video/tvs/UN60JS7000FXZA

But hey, what does Samsung know, lol.
What Samsung knows is questionable I mean one says the HU has a 10bit panel and the contact from Samsung said it's 8bit.
I think we know more then there own employees do.

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Well then you tell @Scott Wilkinson it isn't because it's on "the list" under LCD-FALD TVs (see attached thumbnail).
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It is also mentioned in this review as "a quantum-dot set with full-array local dimming" television.
It's a fluff piece - reading incorrectly from a press release, the author had no hands on experience with the television. If you want reviews based on actual testing of the JS7000 try these:

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Oh, and even Samsung says it is on their website.
No they don't. Samsung says it has "full array backlighting" with UHD Dimming which is another way of saying it's a back-lit television with frame dimming. If you're familiar with Samsung televisions then you should know their local dimming televisions have the Smart LED feature under Picture Options. Samsung has the manual for the JS7000 online, you'll see that it doesn't have that feature. At the bottom is an image of my television.


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But hey, what does Samsung know, lol.
I own the darn television and I'm quite familiar with frame dimming, edge-lit local dimming and FALD and this television has frame dimming. It's essentially a JU6500 television with the WCG. Other than the stand and the bezel being comprised of higher quality material its physical design is identical to the 6 series.
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Took me a minute to figure out what a "humidity port" is.

Your question can probably be better addressed over here in this thread but from my quick review that particular model does not support HDR as it is not upgradeable to HDMI 2.0a...

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/166-lc...l#post32797873

Bottom line is if you plan on getting an Ultra HD Blu-ray player it is going to have to be plugged into the port that is HDCP 2.2 (High-bandwidth Digital Content Protection) compliant otherwise 4K content will be downscaled to 1080p.

I ment to say my LG uhd 79inch UB9800 has a 10 bit deep color on hdmi port 3, but port 1 is the hdcp 2.2 compliant port.
I talked to a report they and firmware update may be available soon.
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I ment to say my LG uhd 79inch UB9800 has a 10 bit deep color on hdmi port 3, but port 1 is the hdcp 2.2 compliant port.
I talked to a report they and firmware update may be available soon.
How do you "talk to a report"?


In either case that might be worth discussing on the UB9800 thread.
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I have, twice.

It's a fluff piece - reading incorrectly from a press release, the author had no hands on experience with the television. If you want reviews based on actual testing of the JS7000 try these:

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Please note: The 50" and 60" models have VA panels and the 55" model has an IPS panel.

No they don't. Samsung says it has "full array backlighting" with UHD Dimming which is another way of saying it's a back-lit television with frame dimming. If you're familiar with Samsung televisions then you should know their local dimming televisions have the Smart LED feature under Picture Options. Samsung has the manual for the JS7000 online, you'll see that it doesn't have that feature. At the bottom is an image of my television.

I own the darn television and I'm quite familiar with frame dimming, edge-lit local dimming and FALD and this television has frame dimming. It's essentially a JU6500 television with the WCG. Other than the stand and the bezel being comprised of higher quality material its physical design is identical to the 6 series.
At the risk of having my head bit off, I am very familiar with the Samsung product line and happen to own two of their televisions.

For those who aren't, the Smart LED option is described in the manual as follows:

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...so due to the generic nature of the manual as it applies to many models of Samsung's lineup, it would be difficult to determine what "functions" are included on the TV without getting some hands-on as you point out.

With that being said I have included a photo from my HU9000 that I can assure you is not a FALD and it has two options under that menu that your JS7000 doesn't -- the aforementioned Smart LED along with Cinema Black which is designed to "dim the top and bottom areas of the video image to provide a more immersive viewing experience".

Obviously the Cinema Black feature is missing on the flagship JS9500 by virtue of it being a true FALD so they don't need the feature. Otherwise it is my experience that Smart LED and Cinema Black may be excluded on some entry level siblings such as my HU7000 which has neither.

I think I hear where you're coming from. Why would the flagship JS9500 be a true FALD and then you have to drop all the way down to the JS7000 in their 2015 lineup to find another?

Doing a comparison of a few of the various 2015 models (see the second thumbnail), it is perplexing how the JS9500 has what Samsung refers to as Multi-zone Full Array Backlighting while your JS7000 has what they refer to as Full Array Backlighting and the other two selections indicate Edge Backlighting.

Further to that, without having to delve into the specification sheet, the Samsung mentions the full array aspects of the JS9500 in the glossy colored advertising materials on their website but not even a whisper about the JS7000.

And just to add insult to injury, the specifications don't include the bit depth of either panel. Hey, at least we have Samsung on video for the HU9000.


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I think he's referring to whether the JS7000 has a 10 bit or a 8 bit panel. And NO, the JS7000 is not a FALD television. For Pete sakes this is complete non sense.
You are correct @venus933 , does it have a 8 or 10 bit panel.
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Look a page back they did indeed confirm that Js7000 is fald with less zones.
So since the JS9500 is described as having Multi-zone Full Array Backlighting while @venus933 's JS7000 has what Samsung refers to as Full Array Backlighting but missing the Smart LED feature which is described when you go in to adjust the option as "Automatically adjust brightness of individual areas on screen for maximum contrast" (see thumbnail) it would lead me to believe that it doesn't have many dimming zones at all.

Many people looking at "the list" might think the JS7000 being under the LCD-FALD TVs section is a better TV than the JS9000 in the LCD-Edgelit TVs section which is not the case by any stretch of the imagination.

Heck, if we are this confused what about the general public?!!

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So since the JS9500 is described as having Multi-zone Full Array Backlighting while @venus933 's JS7000 has what Samsung refers to as Full Array Backlighting but missing the Smart LED feature which is described when you go in to adjust the option as "Automatically adjust brightness of individual areas on screen for maximum contrast" (see thumbnail) it would lead me to believe that it doesn't have many dimming zones at all.

Many people looking at "the list" might think the JS7000 being under the LCD-FALD TVs section is a better TV than the JS9000 in the LCD-Edgelit TVs section which is not the case by any stretch of the imagination.

Heck, if we are this confused what about the general public?!!

Hopefully 2016 bodes to be a better year for consumers but I am not holding my breath!!
No well let's see what is said about this. Samsung is only bringing one set that is FALD this year to the US and the KS9500 or a 65" is not on the cards for FALD. So I guess the 2016 Samsung unless its bigger will not be FALD.

From what I read a edge lit local dimming set can not produce true HDR. So lets see how this unfolds..,
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I ment to say my LG uhd 79inch UB9800 has a 10 bit deep color on hdmi port 3, but port 1 is the hdcp 2.2 compliant port.
I talked to a report they and firmware update may be available soon.
Sorry for the typing but I ment lg rep, my galaxy note 5 auto corrects and I don't notice until after I send it through
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No well let's see what is said about this. Samsung is only bringing one set that is FALD this year to the US and the KS9500 or a 65" is not on the cards for FALD. So I guess the 2016 Samsung unless its bigger will not be FALD.

From what I read a edge lit local dimming set can not produce true HDR. So lets see how this unfolds..,
I really wonder why Samsung is mainly producing edge lit sets this year? Cost? Too many problems with FALD?

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At the risk of having my head bit off, I am very familiar with the Samsung product line and happen to own two of their televisions.

For those who aren't, the Smart LED option is described in the manual as follows:



...so due to the generic nature of the manual as it applies to many models of Samsung's lineup, it would be difficult to determine what "functions" are included on the TV without getting some hands-on as you point out.

With that being said I have included a photo from my HU9000 that I can assure you is not a FALD and it has two options under that menu that your JS7000 doesn't -- the aforementioned Smart LED along with Cinema Black which is designed to "dim the top and bottom areas of the video image to provide a more immersive viewing experience".

Obviously the Cinema Black feature is missing on the flagship JS9500 by virtue of it being a true FALD so they don't need the feature. Otherwise it is my experience that Smart LED and Cinema Black may be excluded on some entry level siblings such as my HU7000 which has neither.

I think I hear where you're coming from. Why would the flagship JS9500 be a true FALD and then you have to drop all the way down to the JS7000 in their 2015 lineup to find another?

Doing a comparison of a few of the various 2015 models (see the second thumbnail), it is perplexing how the JS9500 has what Samsung refers to as Multi-zone Full Array Backlighting while your JS7000 has what they refer to as Full Array Backlighting and the other two selections indicate Edge Backlighting.

Further to that, without having to delve into the specification sheet, the Samsung mentions the full array aspects of the JS9500 in the glossy colored advertising materials on their website but not even a whisper about the JS7000.

And just to add insult to injury, the specifications don't include the bit depth of either panel. Hey, at least we have Samsung on video for the HU9000.


Confusion reigns supreme!!!
I'll try not to come off as biting your head off but I think you sensed my frustration. I"ll do my best to clarify myself further:

JS7000
A lot of confusion starts with Samsung stating on their website that this television has full array backlighting in the assumption that it follows it has local dimming. In the case of the JS7000 it has frame dimming which means the screen is dimmed on a per frame basis. The television has no ability to dim portions of the screen independent of other portions of the screen. i.e., it has one dimming zone.

JU7100
This is Samsung's cheapest model with actual local dimming. Like the JS7000 it has full array backlighting but with local dimming though it appears to have only two zones per rtings' local dimming test. It's a slippery slope on what is the difference between direct-local dimming and FALD but the JS7100 appears to be the former.

JS8500/JS9000
These are edge-lit televisions with edge-lit local dimming. They have the ability to dim portions of the screen independent of each other and they're dimming algorithms are more sophisticated than the one for the JU7100 in that they actually perform better than the direct-lit JU7100 in terms of local dimming. i.e., with the JU7100 having only two horizontal zones it hardly has an advantage because it's direct-lit.

JS9500
This is the only FALD Samsung television from 2015.

Only the JS7000 doesn't have the Smart LED feature as the others have some form of local dimming capability.

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You are correct @venus933 , does it have a 8 or 10 bit panel.
Sorry barneypoo69, I don't know for sure.

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I'll try not to come off as biting your head off but I think you sensed my frustration. I"ll do my best to clarify myself further:

JS7000
A lot a confusion starts with Samsung stating on their website that this television has full array backlighting in the assumption that it follows it has local dimming. In the case of the JS7000 it has frame dimming which means the screen is dimmed on a per frame basis. The television has no ability to dim portions of the screen independent of other portions of the screen. i.e., it has one dimming zone.

JU7100
This is Samsung's cheapest model with actual local dimming. Like the JS7000 it has full array backlighting but with local dimming though it appears to have only two zones per rtings' local dimming test. It's a slippery slope on what is the difference between direct-local dimming and FALD but the JS7100 appears to be the former.

JS8500/JS9000
These are edge-lit televisions with edge-lit local dimming. They have the ability to dim portions of the screen independent of each other and they're dimming algorithms are more sophisticated than the one for the JU7100 that it actually performs better than the direct-lit JU7100 in terms of local dimming. i.e., with the JU7100 having only two horizontal zones it hardly has an advantage because it's direct-lit.

JS9500
This is the only FALD Samsung television from 2015.

Only the JS7000 doesn't have the Smart LED feature as the others have some form of local dimming capability.
Totally understand your frustration. You're singing to the choir!

It's a shame that we need a secret decoder ring to wade through the confusion and terms that manufacturers are using that really mean absolutely nothing.

For example, in Samsung's case here is what they call Local Dimming in there TECH SPECS for various models over the past few years...

2014
HU8550 - Micro Dimming Pro
HU9000 - Micro Dimming Ultimate

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JS9000 - UHD Dimming Pro
JS9500 - Precision Black Pro

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KS____ - "Ultra Black" Dimming

These aren't tech specs! Would you have any clue which car to buy if the engine package was simply described as "Pro", or "Precision", or "Ultimate", or "Ultra"?

While searching out the internet for some specs for the 2016 lineup I couldn't believe my eyes when I came across the attached chart questioning the panel depth of Samsung's 2016 flagship model, the KS9800, as having a 10-bit panel achieved through 8-bit + FRC.

But hey, if they are not going to provide this information in their tech specs what do manufacturers expect? For us to guess??? Not all of us have the where-with-all to hunt down software to do the tests ourselves?

Not to mention the added confusion since I recall reading some of the European models will be released with the same model numbers but different specs than those in North America!!!

An obvious misunderstanding (we can hope) but just goes to show that confusion will prevail until the UHD Alliance gets their act together and implements a meaningful set of technical specifications with measurables that manufacturers need to follow... not buzzwords!

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Samsung just needs to hire me seems that I have more knowledge on their own products than them Unbelievable the misinformation even top reps have you have a top rep on camera saying 10 bits and the panel in parts saying the same yet rep told Scott 8 bits . You have owners of Js7000 saying it's not fald and does not even have dimming zones yet Samsung saying it's Full Array to Scott . To those that have a Js7000 and want to know if it's 10 bits either hook up a gpu and test or run this program that will read the EDID and tell ya http://www.entechtaiwan.com/files/mi_setup.exe
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Plus EVO Kits - none for H or J series this year, FW updates only. (Will KS Type be available in the ASM now?)

BUT, us HU people, we were lucky enough to get the SEK-3500, with JS capability.
Checkout Samsung around the world - 75% don't even get a chance at a SEK-3500U in their countries! They have to live with what they got. Or, buy a new set.
Now then, has anyone actually been able to get the JS Series OCB to work correctly on the HU Series, that the rest of the world could buy the JS OCB to bring their older sets up to snuff?

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Exactly! "Supports HDR" probably means what I'm calling "HDR-compatible," which means it can accept and process an HDR signal, but it says nothing about the display's ability to actually render an HDR image. What I'm calling "HDR-capable" refers to the display's ability to actually render an HDR image on the screen. These are two different things, and I wouldn't be surprised if retailers and manufacturers (I'm not saying who) use this ambiguity to confuse consumers.
That sounds like "HDTV-Ready" vs actually being able to produce all the HDTV resolutions (1080p, 1080i, 720p and 480p)
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Got to hand it to the marketing guru who came up with Moth Eye technology. Now that's a catchy phrase!

Each year I'm usually able to decipher Samsung's marketing speak to determine which models are direct/back-lit, edge-lit and FALD (there's usually just one model) and the type of dimming scheme it incorporates.

As for the engineer who told Scott that the JS7000 has FALD, perhaps he simply said it has "Full Array backlighting" and Scott took that to mean Full Array Local Dimming. I know Full Array backlighting implies there's local dimming but Samsung listed ALL of their 2015 UHD direct-lit televisions as having "Full Array" backlighting. The 6 series UHD televisions have frame dimming and the JS7000 is technically a 6 series with the WCG (Nano-Crystal Technology).

They don't market the equivalent television (JU6800) as a JS model in Europe.

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I really wonder why Samsung is mainly producing edge lit sets this year? Cost? Too many problems with FALD?
Samsung has always focused more on edgelit than FALD, expect in its flagship TVs (and possibly the JS7000, which I'm still working on with Samsung; I've got a call with the head engineer in the US next week). I suspect the main reason is so the TVs can be thinner, and that FALD is more expensive.
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