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Is that an old slide? "Expected CES 2017" it says but that was months ago, and no mention of dynamic metadata for HDR10 aka HDR10+ which, although only formally launched last week, was heavily pre-announced going back to last summer.

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Apparently, that slide is being presented at the 2017 NAB Show: "5:56 PM - 24 Apr 2017 from Las Vegas, NV".
https://twitter.com/UHD4k/status/856673144127471616

Slides should be done long before.

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US Pay TV providers & HEVC HLG HDR

"Thanks to two forward-thinking Pay TV systems, the future of 4K is beginning to unfold in the US. Vivicast Media salutes Marquette-Adams and Highlands Cable Group on becoming the first traditional cable systems in the nation to successfully meet the growing demand for entertainment delivered in next-generation 4K," said Stuart Smitherman, President of Vivicast Media. "Vivicast Media and SES have together greatly accelerated the delivery of compelling Ultra HD TV networks to homes across the US, including the world’s first High Dynamic Range channel, Travelxp 4K, licensed the SES-provided Ultra HD programming through Vivicast Media and have initiated their Ultra HD offerings following successful trials of the SES platform."
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Industry rivalry & Consumers

An opinion on "HDR10Plus vs Dolby Vision":
https://twitter.com/JohnnyFocal/stat...25949048041476
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0860338/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cr3

"HDR10+ doesn't have the same level of picture analyse in the prep stage as DV. All the clever bits are in a @dolby patent."
"HDR10+ is like some trying to reinvent the wheel but it cant be round. Its a very inelegant solution."
"But still better than vanilla HDR10 as you say."


Whatever is best.
As the industry is unable to reach a consensus, consumers should require that HDR TV shall support all HDR formats.
Thus, it doesn’t matter what HDR format a given program uses; a TV that implements all formats can accommodate the content and display it to its best advantage.

At the end of the day, it is content that matters most, not content format.
No more early-adopter industry-driven HDR TV incompatible with other HDR content, but consumer-driven universal HDR-compliant TV able to play any HDR content!

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ATSC 3.0 and HDR

Apparently, while supporting "PQ" (i.e. HDR10 with or without static metadata) and "HLG", ATSC 3.0 will also support Dynamic HDR.
https://www.avsforum.com/forum/465-hi...l#post49984041
http://www.nabshow.com/video/ultra-h...ting-comes-age



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Video, creative intent & accuracy

Question to Matt McRae, CTO of Vizio:
"Which image do you think is the more accurate? First or second?"



R: "I have also learned that "accurate" is a tough definition - especially with movies. The studio, cinematographer and colorist will master the content into what they deem as the "Director's intent" which is not always "lifelike." I have seen DV masters come in and challenges the accuracy and then later sat with the Director who told me they were trying to achieve a certain "mood" for that scene. They are artists and view light as their medium... through this process I was VERY impressed with Dolby's ability to give the Director a wider palette to achieve the effect they wanted... and in almost every case I have scrutinized it was closer to the original intent of that piece of content."
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Presentation "What is HDR?" of Josh Limor, VP of Technology and Ecosystem Development at Technicolor:
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Delivering the "creative intent" once approved in mastering process to the consumer display, while conforming to a more limited color volume of the consumer display and while minimizing color appearance changes in the images, is possible with Dynamic HDR (Dolby Vision, HDR10Plus) ecosystems.
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Netflix now supports HDR video on mobile devices

Netflix offers both HDR10 and Dolby Vision streaming on TVs and now mobile devices.
http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php...&id=1494478647

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Dolby Vision licensing fee & universal HDR TV

Some people are concerned with Dolby Vision licensing fee.

In fact,

"You may hear about one other difference between Dolby Vision and HDR10. Some people will point out that TV manufacturers pay to have Dolby Vision in their displays, while HDR10 is free. While that’s true, the difference isn’t significant.
The royalty cost to add Dolby Vision ranges from less than $3 per TV to lower than $2 per TV."
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/dolby...ar-giles-baker

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TCL P-Series charges just $500 for local dimming, 4K, HDR10 and Dolby Vision (50-inch TCL 50P607)
https://www.cnet.com/products/tcl-55p607/preview/
or $580 (or Y3999) for Dolby Vision, HDR10 and HLG HDR (55-inch TCL FFALCON I-55).
http://www.onenewspage.com/n/Press+R...s-Internet.htm
http://www.gooread.com/article/20121710425/
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So the Dolby Vision licensing fee is not a problem.

Dolby Vision, one of several operational digital video formats, should be supported by a universal HDR TV (i.e. a TV supporting all operational HDR formats) in the same way a universal audio/video receiver (AVR) supports Dolby Atmos, one of several operational digital audio formats.

Thus, it doesn’t matter what HDR format a given program uses; a TV that implements all formats can accommodate the content and display it to its best advantage.
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All LG 4KTVs Sold in South Korea to Soon Feature ATSC 3.0

"LG Electronics will include ATSC 3.0 tuners in all of its 4KTVs sold in South Korea beginning later this year.
"We’ll include our latest generation of ATSC 3.0 chip—it will include both 1.0 and 3.0 demodulation.""
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Ultra HD Forum Phase B

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PQ10 = HDR10 without HDR10 static metadata

Edit: It should be stressed that this overview represents the current line of thinking for the future Phase B work. Nothing here is definitive yet.

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ATSC 3.0 video standard

The ATSC 3.0 candidate standard for video has been elevated to the standard level:
http://atsc.org/wp-content/uploads/2...Video-HEVC.pdf

Apparently, the HDR video parts of ATSC 3.0 and DVB UHD Phase 2 are basically the same: "PQ" (i.e. HDR10 with or without static metadata) and "HLG" (i.e. HEVC HLG HDR).
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The ATSC 3.0 candidate standard for video has been elevated to the standard level:
http://atsc.org/wp-content/uploads/2...Video-HEVC.pdf

Apparently, the HDR video parts of ATSC 3.0 and DVB UHD Phase 2 are basically the same: "PQ" (i.e. HDR10 with or without static metadata) and "HLG" (i.e. HEVC HLG HDR).
Cool. Obviously they'll be using HLG for live broadcasts, where the peak brightnesses etc aren't known in advance and accurate metadata at the start of the broadcast is therefore impossible.

Question, how does HDR10 without any metadata work?

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Question, how does HDR10 without any metadata work?
One of the ways is to use Active HDR.
https://www.avsforum.com/forum/465-hi...l#post50857057

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One of the ways is to use Active HDR.
https://www.avsforum.com/forum/465-hi...l#post50857057
That's dolby vision though.

I was responding to
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"PQ" (i.e. HDR10 with or without static metadata)
and specifically asking what you meant by HDR10 without any metadata? Those LGs with Active HDR might be able to conjure something up, but everyone else's HDR10-compliant TVs won't work.

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That's dolby vision though.
Active HDR isn't Dolby Vision.
It is aimed at enhancing the HDR10 rendering by using a SMPTE ST 2094-10 scene-by-scene color volume mapping or display adaptation.

Apparently, the HDR10 display adaptation of the Sony A1E is similar.
https://www.avsforum.com/forum/40-ole...l#post53419578

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I was responding to and specifically asking what you meant by HDR10 without any metadata? Those LGs with Active HDR might be able to conjure something up, but everyone else's HDR10-compliant TVs won't work.
As there is no standardized HDR10 display adaptation, each TV maker has to create and implement its proprietary HDR10 display adaptation, which can be more and less dumb or more and less smart.



A dumb HDR10 "display adaptation" can just "play" a HDR10 content with no metadata or with metadata while carrying out no display adaptation.


I think that the color volume for broadcast media will be much lesser than the color volume for Dolby Vision media so that a one-to-one mapping between the broadcast media encoding and most consumer displays is possible (i.e. no metadata needed).
https://www.avsforum.com/forum/465-hi...l#post48660369
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Multi-HDR support

Multi-HDR support - Current situation:


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Yet another multi-HDR SoC

MediaTek MT5597: Another multi-HDR SoC (System on a Chip) for Ultra HD TV, compliant off-the-shelf with HDR10 / Dolby Vision / BBC HLG HDR
https://twitter.com/UHD4k/status/874546884408471554

VP9-PQ / VP9-HLG YouTube HDR app can be added using the integrated 10-bit VP9 decoding.





"Support for single and dual layer mainstream HDR specs including Dolby Vision HDR, HDR10, and BBC HLG, which allows users to enjoy HDR content from any video source (OTT and physical media).
The chipset also supports Google VP9 and HEVC codecs designed for 4K content streaming with 10bit color depth at 60 frames per second for a smooth playback experience."
http://www.prnewswire.com/news-relea...300472156.html

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Dynamic HDR formats: format war or coexistence?

Different HDR formats using dynamic metadata for color volume transforms (DMCVT): format war or coexistence?
https://www.avsforum.com/forum/465-hi...l#post48660369
https://www.avsforum.com/forum/465-hi...l#post49844137
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""Q: HDR10 is established in hardware and software. In terms of Dynamic HDR, on the other hand, there seems to be a format war, face-to-face with various solutions, including HDR10+ from Samsung. Was this foreseen? And how is Dolby positioned?

A [Roland Vlaicu, Dolby VP]: The standardization of Dynamic HDR metadata in SMPTE has been running for several years. Dolby's standard was adopted some time ago. Other approaches are also underway. Samsung's HDR10+ format finally confirms our basic decision that dynamic metadata is essential for a high-quality HDR experience. This is definitely a good sign. Time will tell what will happen with the coexistence of several such formats.
However, I look calmly at such a scenario. Dolby Vision has been available in the market for several years, with over 100 partners in production, distribution and playback. Dolby Vision is far more than just a format. Dolby Vision is an entertainment experience that starts with Dolby Cinema...
We have mastered classics from the '40s in Dolby Vision, and the results are breathtaking…""
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Format war or not: it is up to you, consumers.
HDR TV shall support all operational HDR formats, which should be IMHO obvious to the masses of consumers, and therefore to the TV makers:
. a format war brings no benefit for consumers
. it is content that matters most, not content format; any HDR content shall be able to play on any universal HDR TV
. like NTSC/PAL/SECAM or Dolby Digital/DTS/…, HDR formats can coexist; from the TV point of view, different HDR formats are just different TV software.
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HEVC HLG HDR support added to 2015 & 2016 Sony Android TVs

"Sony Europe has started rolling out a firmware update for all Android TVs launched in spring 2016 and throughout 2015. The update adds support for the HLG HDR format for broadcast TV. "
http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php...&id=1498724600

That's a good point for Sony!

2017 Sony A1E OLED TVs are also compatible with HEVC HLG HDR.
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Carmen by Bizet in UHD HLG

"Franco-German cultural channel ARTE will be showing the opera Carmen by Georges Bizet in 4K Ultra HD HDR [HEVC HLG HDR] on three satellites.
The broadcast will take place on Thursday, July 6, at 2055 CET and is a live performance of the opera at the Festival d’Aix-en-Provence."
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HDR – HDMI compatibility



. HDMI 1.4:
"Roland Vlaicu, Dolby VP:
We had anticipated the challenge of getting high dynamic range (HDR) and HDR metadata over HDMI interfaces. So what we did was develop our own technology that tunnels all the way through HDMI interfaces back to version 1.4, including the signaling and the metadata. So for televisions that have HDMI inputs and present Dolby Vision signals, as a requirement from us, the HDMI inputs have to support Dolby Vision in addition to the on-board OTT apps that support Dolby Vision and in order to make that work we developed in-band signaling as well as the ability to send 12-bit video over what is effectively an 8-bit interface. All this is implemented in televisions and storage devices that support Dolby Vision.”
https://hdguru.com/dolby-vision-trie...t-bar-for-hdr/

Dolby Vision receiver pass-through compatibility: pass-through Dolby Vision video signal with embedded Dolby Vision metadata
"Dolby Vision can technically be routed through any equipment starting at v1.4.b and above, however, the device needs to be aware of the kind of signal properties that differentiate Dolby Vision from a standard SDR signal. To this effect, we have issued a compatibility SDK that several manufacturers have already used to obtain pass-through compatibility on upcoming products. Compatibility on existing products is something that could possibly achieved as well, but is of course at the discretion of each manufacturer/OEM."
https://www.soundandvision.com/conte...fJDvzbr4VHV.99


. HDMI 2.0a:
HDR10 Media Profile:
"A TV, monitor or projector may be referred to as a HDR Compatible Display if it meets the following minimum attributes:
. Includes at least one interface that supports HDR signaling as defined in CEA-861-F, as extended by CEA-861.3.
. Receives and processes static HDR metadata compliant with CEA-861.3 for uncompressed video."
https://www.cta.tech/News/Press-Rele...-Displays.aspx

HDMI:
"We support HDR static metadata that is referenced in CTA 861.3. As the industry and features/formats develop, we will certainly evaluate supporting additional formats.
There is additional metadata is that required to deliver the enhancements offered by HDR. HDMI 2.0a adds the ability for devices to be able to transmit/receive this metadata."
http://www.hdmi.org/manufacturer/hdm...a_faq.aspx#148


. HDMI 2.0b:
"The HDMI Forum has confirmed that the extension of the static metadata signaling to include HLG can be utilized under the existing HDMI 2.0b Specification."
http://www.hdmi.org/manufacturer/hdmi_2_0/


. HDMI 2.1: not yet published for the time being
HDMI Specification 2.1 Feature Highlights include Dynamic HDR, Higher Video Resolutions (4K120Hz, 8K60Hz), eARC, Game Mode VRR (Variable Refresh Rate) and 48G cables / 48Gbps bandwidth.
http://www.hdmi.org/manufacturer/hdmi_2_1/
http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread....8#post13336708
http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread....2#post13336742

HDR10 Plus compliant streaming media player:
HDR10 Plus content >> IP network >> HDR10 Plus compliant media player > 10-bit PQ uncompressed video + ST 2086 static metadata + ST 2094-40 dynamic metadata >> HDMI 2.1 >> HDR10 Plus compliant TV

Probable future ST 2094-10 compliant ATSC 3.0:
"This document describes technology documented in ST 2094-10 “Dynamic Metadata for Color Volume Transform — Application #1” which is a technology for the use of dynamic metadata for HDR content. If approved by the ATSC, A/341-Video-HECV (date of current public version) (“A/341”) would be amended according to the edits described herein.
The HEVC video bitstream may contain the 2094-10 metadata message in order to provide dynamic information about the video signal. When a 2094-10 metadata message is present, this information can be employed by the display to adapt the delivered HDR imagery to the capability of the display device. Furthermore, this metadata can be used to derive an SDR (ITUR BT.709 [ref]) picture by receiving devices such as an ATSC 3.0 receiver/converter."
https://www.atsc.org/wp-content/uplo...nt-2094-10.pdf
ATSC 3.0 content >> ATSC 3.0 network >> ATSC 3.0 STB (Set Top Box) > 12-bit PQ uncompressed video + ST 2086 static metadata + ST 2094-10 dynamic metadata >> HDMI 2.1 >> ST 2094-10 Dolby Vision compliant TV

Probable future HDR10 Plus compliant Ultra HD Blu-ray:
http://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.ph...postcount=2068
HDR10 Plus disc > HDR10 Plus compliant UHD Blu-ray player > 10-bit PQ uncompressed video + ST 2086 static metadata + ST 2094-40 dynamic metadata >> HDMI 2.1 >> HDR10 Plus compliant TV

A TV with eARC feature or game mode VRR feature or 4K120 HFR (High Frame Rate) feature shall be compatible with HDMI 2.1:
4K120 HFR content >> IP network >> 4K120 STB (Set Top Box) >> HDMI 2.1 >> 4K120 HFR TV


. VP9-PQ YouTube HDR / HDR10: same CTA HDR10 uncompressed video over HDMI 2.0a
VP9-PQ YouTube HDR content >> IP network >> VP9-PQ YouTube HDR compliant media player > 10-bit PQ uncompressed video + "ST 2086 static metadata" >> HDMI 2.0a >> VP9-PQ YouTube HDR / HDR10 compliant TV

HDR10 content >> IP network >> HDR10 compliant media player > 10-bit PQ uncompressed video + "ST 2086 static metadata" >> HDMI 2.0a >> VP9-PQ YouTube HDR / HDR10 compliant TV


. VP9-HLG YouTube HDR / HEVC HLG HDR: same HLG uncompressed video over HDMI 2.0b
VP9-HLG YouTube HDR content >> IP network >> VP9-HLG YouTube HDR compliant media player > 10-bit HLG uncompressed video >> HDMI 2.0b >> VP9-HLG YouTube HDR / HEVC HLG HDR compliant TV

HEVC HLG HDR content >> IP network >> HEVC HLG HDR compliant media player > 10-bit HLG uncompressed video >> HDMI 2.0b >> VP9-HLG YouTube HDR / HEVC HLG HDR compliant TV


. Technicolor HDR:
"Advanced HDR [i.e. SDR-to-HDR upconversion + Technicolor HDR] is a universal distribution system supporting all formats of HDR."
https://twitter.com/Technicolor/stat...35919490146304
http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread....2#post13336742


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An opinion on "HDR10Plus vs Dolby Vision":
https://twitter.com/JohnnyFocal/stat...25949048041476
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0860338/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cr3

"HDR10+ doesn't have the same level of picture analyse in the prep stage as DV. All the clever bits are in a @dolby patent."
"HDR10+ is like some trying to reinvent the wheel but it cant be round. Its a very inelegant solution."
"But still better than vanilla HDR10 as you say."


Whatever is best.
As the industry is unable to reach a consensus, consumers should require that HDR TV shall support all HDR formats.
Thus, it doesn’t matter what HDR format a given program uses; a TV that implements all formats can accommodate the content and display it to its best advantage.

At the end of the day, it is content that matters most, not content format.
No more early-adopter industry-driven HDR TV incompatible with other HDR content, but consumer-driven universal HDR-compliant TV able to play any HDR content!
More like they refuse to reach a consensus (I'm looking in your direction, Samsung), so keep buying our $4000-20000 TVs yearly until everybody coalesces. No thanks.
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A live broadcast in Dolby Vision

"RTVE is the first national channel in Spain to complete a live broadcast in Dolby Audio and Dolby Vision. At 12pm CET on July 5, the historic Solemn Changing of the Guard ceremony was broadcast live in Dolby Vision High Dynamic Range (HDR) technology and Dolby AC-4 sound, using the 4K DVB-T2 trial channel that is operated by RTVE and Cellnexx Telecom. This transmission was available on terrestrial channels in Madrid (channel 32), Barcelona (channel 43) and Seville (channel 36), and viewers with a 4K HDR TV could receive the transmission."
https://ce-pro.eu/2017/07/first-live...dcast-success/
http://www.panoramaaudiovisual.com/f...hdr-de-espana/



By the way, ST 2094-10 Dolby Vision is at the ATSC 3.0 candidate standard level.
https://www.atsc.org/standards/candidate-standards/
https://www.atsc.org/wp-content/uplo...nt-2094-10.pdf
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A HDR format upgrade: rumor or news?

"I have been told by Sony, Dolby Vision software upgrades for their UBP-X800/1000 4K players will be out soon."
[William Kacensky]
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https://twitter.com/WKacensky/status/886395202805485568
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HEVC HLG HDR support added to LG 2016 OLED TVs

"The latest firmware update for LG’s 2016 OLED models C6 and E6 adds support for the HLG format, which will be used to broadcast HDR quality via TV channels.

The changelog lists the C6 and E6 OLED models as applicable models. There is no mention of the more affordable B6, which uses a non-LG system chip from Realtek. It will require a separate firmware update but the plans are unclear."
http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php...&id=1500441850

Apparently, the C6 / E6 OLED models are supporting HDR10, Dolby Vision and HEVC HLG HDR.







"HLG on YouTube works on the G6 OLED after the update."

Apparently, the G6 OLED models are supporting HDR10, Dolby Vision, HEVC HLG HDR, VP9-HLG YouTube HDR and VP9-PQ YouTube HDR (i.e. all operational HDR formats for the time being).

YouTube HDR requires 10-bit VP9 decoding.
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"The latest firmware update for LG’s 2016 OLED models C6 and E6 adds support for the HLG format, which will be used to broadcast HDR quality via TV channels.

The changelog lists the C6 and E6 OLED models as applicable models. There is no mention of the more affordable B6, which uses a non-LG system chip from Realtek. It will require a separate firmware update but the plans are unclear."
http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php...&id=1500441850

Apparently, the C6 / E6 OLED models are supporting HDR10, Dolby Vision and HEVC HLG HDR.







"HLG on YouTube works on the G6 OLED after the update."

Apparently, the G6 OLED models are supporting HDR10, Dolby Vision, HEVC HLG HDR, VP9-HLG YouTube HDR and VP9-PQ YouTube HDR (i.e. all operational HDR formats for the time being).

YouTube HDR requires 10-bit VP9 decoding.
This firmware update also brings HLG HDR to LGs 2016 UH8500 and UH9500 Super UHD LCDs as well. Just updated mine today and can confirm HLG HDR now works.
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Major film studios & HDR10 / Dolby Vision



http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php...&id=1500554934
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"Samsung tells me that all its 2017 HDR TVs will support its new royalty-free dynamic metadata HDR system, which is going to be called HDR10+.
Samsung's [HDR10+ is a] proprietary (though open source, royalty-free) dynamic HDR system."
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Is there a logo for HDR10+ yet, does anyone know? If so what does it look like? We were wondering on the KS8000 thread how/if Amazon is going to distinguish between titles with HDR10+ and titles with HDR10 when they start streaming in HDR10+ [which we are told will be in the second half of this year].

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(Probable) HDR support status - August 2017

"This is what the HDR video standards field will look like once Apple officially announces support for HDR10, Dolby Vision and HLG."
https://twitter.com/UHD4k/status/894123260438335488
https://twitter.com/DanielBa78/statu...99365475512320

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"This is what the HDR video standards field will look like once Apple officially announces support for HDR10, Dolby Vision and HLG."
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I keep trying to work out if that Venn diagram will ever get to a state - due to a combination of who supports what - where it's impossible to draw
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