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HDR10+ Comes to Google Play:

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I've been watching S1 of The Expanse in HDR-10+ via the native Prime Video app on my 2018 Vizio P; I haven't compared to HDR-10, but I plan to...

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I've been watching S1 of The Expanse in HDR10+ via the native Prime Video app on my 2018 Vizio P; I haven't compared to HDR10, but I plan to...
Would be good but I don't think you'll get the choice. There's no user toggle, and on many of the implementations there's no confirmation that it's HDR10+ either.

I think you need two devices, and the certain knowledge that one of them "can't" be HDR10+, and trust that the other one is, to be able to compare. The simplest way would be a TV with a built-in Prime app that does HDR10+, and an external device like an old Firestick that can't. But even then, the PQ will be different between the external device and the internal app for all the other video processing/HDMI reasons, even before you consider the "+" part

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Yes @mrtickleuk , I have a fair comparison in mind; my 2018 Vizio P TV does in fact show a HDR10+ "badge" (it isn't even a badge, but rather plain text in the same spot the DV badge appears for DV content) for its native Prime video app, and my 2016 Roku P+ doesn't support HDR-10+, but does consistently output Prime UHD content on par with (I would even say better than) any streaming device I own (2019 Shield, ATV4K, FS4K, PS4Pro, and various UHD disk players).
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A few keywords from that article; "minor usage boost" and "uphill battle".

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Yes @mrtickleuk , I have a fair comparison in mind; my 2018 Vizio P TV does in fact show a HDR10+ "badge" (it isn't even a badge, but rather plain text in the same spot the DV badge appears for DV content) for its native Prime video app,
Cheap! But I'm pleased to read that. Looking forward to your comparison
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Hi all, I recently picked up a 2019 Samsung and had some questions about HDR10+. All of amazon prime video's originals have been stated as supporting HDR10+, but i noticed some of my purchased movies (mostly all disney and marvel movies, along with some Sony titles) that support HDR also show the HDR10+ icon when I go to my TV settings. Is this correct that even purchased titles support HDR10+ or is it incorrectly showing these titles as such? Thanks!
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Hi all, I recently picked up a 2019 Samsung and had some questions about HDR10+. All of amazon prime video's originals have been stated as supporting HDR10+, but i noticed some of my purchased movies (mostly all disney and marvel movies, along with some Sony titles) that support HDR also show the HDR10+ icon when I go to my TV settings. Is this correct that even purchased titles support HDR10+ or is it incorrectly showing these titles as such? Thanks!
I just checked some of my purchased UHD movie titles, and this is correct...they are encoded HDR10+.
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I just checked some of my purchased UHD movie titles, and this is correct...they are encoded HDR10+.

Awesome thank you for confirming! Hopefully more titles continue to be added with HDR10+ support!
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Awesome thank you for confirming! Hopefully more titles continue to be added with HDR10+ support!
The one thing I've noticed over the past year is that for some of their UHD content there are 2 distinct versions of the titles available: one with HDR, and another without HDR. I've only dealt with the Prime Video engineers through TV manufacturers, but I'm appalled at how lax their quality control standards are when it comes to the user interface and the labeling of titles in general. I got the distinct impression from our interactions that this aspect of PV was NOT "job one", which is inexplicable because it's not like it's the CEO who has to personally sort through titles and make sure they're encoded, labeled, and grouped correctly. After all, he IS very, very busy sending d**k pics to actually get any work done. The engineers, on the other hand, don't seem to be putting in a full forty hours a week from the state of things.
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I just checked some of my purchased UHD movie titles, and this is correct...they are encoded HDR10+.
Ah, great! Another thing I can compare; movies in Prime from MA that I can also play in HDR-10 on the Roku, both in Prime and possibly VUDU, which also only supports HDR-10 on the Roku

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Awesome thank you for confirming! Hopefully more titles continue to be added with HDR10+ support!
The one thing I've noticed over the past year is that for some of their UHD content there are 2 distinct versions of the titles available: one with HDR, and another without HDR. I've only dealt with the Prime Video engineers through TV manufacturers, but I'm appalled at how lax their quality control standards are when it comes to the user interface and the labeling of titles in general. I got the distinct impression from our interactions that this aspect of PV was NOT "job one", which is inexplicable because it's not like it's the CEO who has to personally sort through titles and make sure they're encoded, labeled, and grouped correctly. After all, he IS very, very busy sending d**k pics to actually get any work done. The engineers, on the other hand, don't seem to be putting in a full forty hours a week from the state of things. [IMG class=inlineimg]/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif[/IMG]
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Wow, I missed all the celebration about Dolby Vision being a fragmented format. That's cool, I'm still able to watch every DV feature on my 2016 model TV. Let the nonsensical format wars continue (all thanks to Samsung's irrevocable greed and pride).

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Wow, I missed all the celebration about Dolby Vision being a fragmented format. That's cool, I'm still able to watch every DV feature on my 2016 model TV. Let the nonsensical format wars continue (all thanks to Samsung's irrevocable greed and pride).
Samsung's greed? More like stupiduty as they are not making any money on it. And Samsung's pride but also LG's ego as they could also put HDR10+ on their tvs for free and be muliti format and beat Samsung at their own game but they wont do it. Regardless HDR10+ is yesterday's news... not the future.

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Yes, there's a little bit of oneupmanship from both chaebols, and while I don't like it, I understand why there's an impasse and ultimately the desire to save face by both camps. For my own reasons (I.E. I still enjoy 3D films and have 5 on preorder), I don't want to see HDR10+ gain headway over the 5-year dynamic solution of Dolby Vision because I'll have no easy way to watch it whereas I can have my cake and eat it too with my less capable (in brightness only) panel using Dolby's solution. Choosing between HDR or 3D is not a choice I want to make.
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Yes, there's a little bit of oneupmanship from both chaebols, and while I don't like it, I understand why there's an impasse and ultimately the desire to save face by both camps. For my own reasons (I.E. I still enjoy 3D films and have 5 on preorder), I don't want to see HDR10+ gain headway over the 5-year dynamic solution of Dolby Vision because I'll have no easy way to watch it whereas I can have my cake and eat it too with my less capable (in brightness only) panel using Dolby's solution. Choosing between HDR or 3D is not a choice I want to make.


Lol HDR10+ is making a lot of waves still, and I really hope it beats out DV.

You need to update your system if you don’t want a progressive system. Too bad you adopted 3D and don’t want HDR10+ to succeed.


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Yes, there's a little bit of oneupmanship from both chaebols, and while I don't like it, I understand why there's an impasse and ultimately the desire to save face by both camps.
Great use of that word, which I had to look up
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Yes, there's a little bit of oneupmanship from both chaebols, and while I don't like it, I understand why there's an impasse and ultimately the desire to save face by both camps. For my own reasons (I.E. I still enjoy 3D films and have 5 on preorder), I don't want to see HDR10+ gain headway over the 5-year dynamic solution of Dolby Vision because I'll have no easy way to watch it whereas I can have my cake and eat it too with my less capable (in brightness only) panel using Dolby's solution. Choosing between HDR or 3D is not a choice I want to make.
Lol HDR10+ is making a lot of waves still, and I really hope it beats out DV.
True... we had like 7 or 8 new posts in this thread just in the past week! Which is like 9000% increase. The waves are immense and will engulf the eastern seaboard as we know it 😝 And if this continues, yes, DV is toast 🤣 now back to reality.
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True... we had like 7 or 8 new posts in this thread just in the past week! Which is like 9000% increase. The waves are immense and will engulf the eastern seaboard as we know it 😝 And if this continues, yes, DV is toast 🤣 now back to reality.
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I don't know, with more companies adopting both, I don't see how that necessarily brings this impasse any closer to a resolution unless the implication is that the TV manufacturers with the greatest sales will swing it one direction or another.
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Lol HDR10+ is making a lot of waves still, and I really hope it beats out DV.

You need to update your system if you don’t want a progressive system. Too bad you adopted 3D and don’t want HDR10+ to succeed.
But I've got a progressive system already. You bet I adopted 3D (with 5 more on order, though I may cancel Gemini Man...a bit of a bore and Hollywood rehash). Reference titles (both converted and native) generally provide a more enjoyable viewing experience than those newfangled specular highlights. I'm going out on a limb here, but it's too bad you haven't seen passive 3D on an OLED screen, or you might be singing a different tune (I readily submit I probably haven't seen specular highlights quite as bright and colorful as you, so that puts us at a slight impasse, even if TV shootout results continue to point to individual pixel control as the most determinant feature for HDR impact as a whole ). The only valid reasons for me to upgrade are increased size and better grayscale uniformity.
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Lol HDR10+ is making a lot of waves still, and I really hope it beats out DV.
Why?

Competition is good. Even if HDR10+ does not beat out DV, the fact that DV has at least one competitor is a good thing.
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