Originally Posted by d3193
And many of these scenes with superbright areas look dark and drab in other parts of the same scene. We sacrifice well graded pictures with shadow detail in the service of more nits.
I can see that many people love this. But it hasn't won me over.
Don't forget that HDR is still in its infancy and the studios are still figuring out how to grade for it, compared to how many years of SDR experience? A well graded HDR should NOT be sacrificing shadow detail. You should be able to see more of it while still retaining bright highlights. The highlights should look natural, not just bright for the sake of being bright. I love HDR for its ability to offer images more true to life. Now that I've experienced it, I keep thinking how much better everything would look if it was HDR. I never want to go back. Fortunately it's the way of the future and isn't going away. Display technology will catch up and studios will get it figured out, so it's only going to get better from here!
Originally Posted by FullyArray
Honestly your experience just isn't representative of what most people feel. Unfortunately it seems like HDR is something that is intolerable for a certain percentage of the population.
No, his experience is not typical, fortunately. (that doesn't mean it sucks any less for him!) I'm sure as time goes on HDR grading will improve a lot and people will be even more satisfied with it.
Originally Posted by Zipadeedude
I have abandoned watching HDR programming in favor of SDR. Maybe producers of HDR will eventually start taking it easy with all the brightness. It's exacerbated for me because I don't like ambient light in my viewing environment (because to me it makes the viewing experience less immersive). HDR seems graded for lots of ambient light (to me, at least).
HDR is recommended to be graded for an ambient brightness of 5 nits - that's equal to five lit candles in a pitch black room. HDR is NOT graded for a lot of ambient light - exactly the opposite. I watch in a dark room with only an LED lightstrip behind my TV for ambient light, and HDR looks beautiful on my TV.
I've watched both The Revenant and Logan on 4K HDR bluray, and neither of those movies are what I could consider bright. HDR is typically graded for an average picture brightness the same brightness as SDR, with only the highlights going above that when needed. Both Revenant and Logan look to be about the same average brightness as SDR unless something really calls for it being brighter. I find both movies to have very realistic and natural light levels. I'm not sure what you are watching that's "too bright", but that doesn't line up with my own HDR experience.