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post #61 of 73 Old 07-13-2017, 02:30 PM
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Someone must have edited it
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yeah, rxp91 isn't lying, I clicked his link before and it absolutely said 2k, someone just recently edited it. Its possible the IMDB was wrong and as a result of the talk of the UHD bluray someone realized the error and had it fixed. I just can't believe they would have gone to all the trouble of filming in 8k, then reducing the whole thing to a 2k master, it would be a huge waste of time/effort/money. Civil War used 4k Imax cameras in part. I'm pretty sure Marvel moved to 4k with Phase 3(finally), Dr Strange and Civil War both say 4k master DI.
I can second that. IMDB absolutely had it listed previously as a 2K master, but now it states "Digital Intermediate (4K) (master format)".

Now I feel much better about having ordered the 3D / 4K combo. (Eating crow...) Thanks, Disney!!! Many more like THIS.
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Latest info is that this will only be featured in HDR10, in which case no sell. I'll just grab the 3D disc separately off Ebay.
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Just had a thought:
The Phase one and two box sets came with bluray and 3d bluray for all movies with 3d versions produced.
I wonder if the Phase three box will have bd, 3d-bd and uhd-bd for all films? (Thankfully they don't put DVDs in there too. I don't need anymore DVD coasters.)
Still, I'm going to buy all the UHD separates as they come out so I can do my part to support the format. (Dr Strange is the only MCU film I've seen or care to see in 3d, though I'd be mildly interested in seeing Ego the planet in 3d, but not willing to pay extra for it)
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I can second that. IMDB absolutely had it listed previously as a 2K master, but now it states "Digital Intermediate (4K) (master format)".

Now I feel much better about having ordered the 3D / 4K combo. (Eating crow...) Thanks, Disney!!! Many more like THIS.
And...someone changed it back to a 2K DI.

Cinematographic Process
Digital Intermediate (2K) (master format)
Dolby Vision
Redcode RAW (8K) (source format)

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3896198/technical

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And...someone changed it back to a 2K DI.

Cinematographic Process
Digital Intermediate (2K) (master format)
Dolby Vision
Redcode RAW (8K) (source format)

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3896198/technical
Dohhh!!!

Can they just make up their minds already? What is it?
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The film had a 2k DI per the June American Cinematographer:
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The visual-effects/DI workflow was 2K ACES 16-bit EXR
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The film had a 2k DI per the June American Cinematographer:
Well, that's disappointing. Is it really that much more expensive to do the CGI/effects at a minimum 4K rendering? Especially in this day and age where 4K in the home is becoming more and more commonplace?

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Well, that's disappointing. Is it really that much more expensive to do the CGI/effects at a minimum 4K rendering? Especially in this day and age where 4K in the home is becoming more and more commonplace?
It depends. Actually rendering vfx at 4k is definitely more expensive. It requires more time and more processing power to create quadruple the pixels. But, the majority of films with 4k DIs do not actually render vfx at 4k anyway. They render at 2k. Then the vfx house upscales them in-house. They say upscaling 2k fx in-house can produce nearly indistinguishable results to actual 4k renders. Then they deliver those upscaled vfx to be matched with real 4k camera elements to create a 4k DI.

I can only speculate on why Marvel hasn't moved to a 4k workflow yet. Their movies tend to have the most vfx work, period. Plus, they are still committed to 3D, which already doubles the cost and time, so adding 4k on top of that would be a huge expense. But if it makes you feel any better, I've heard rumors that Infinity War may be the first Marvel film to get a 4k finish.
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It's so disappointing that UHD Bluray does not include 3D. Considering that Marvel movies are all 3D and that doesn't appear to change, it's ridiculous that we have to sacrifice 4k and HDR to see the movie at home in 3D.
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It's so disappointing that UHD Bluray does not include 3D. Considering that Marvel movies are all 3D and that doesn't appear to change, it's ridiculous that we have to sacrifice 4k and HDR to see the movie at home in 3D.

Their first release does.

Well at least the Best Buy exclusive SteelBook version of it.



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Their first release does.

Well at least the Best Buy exclusive SteelBook version of it.



Here are the direct LINKS for both the US and Canadian sites:

>US site< >Canadian site<



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I appreciate that you can get both versions in once purchase, but you still have to choose which one to watch. My real beef is that there is no bluray that is 3D AND 4k HDR.
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I appreciate that you can get both versions in once purchase, but you still have to choose which one to watch. My real beef is that there is no bluray that is 3D AND 4k HDR.
That would be difficult since that format simply doesn't exist. The 4K standard has no provisioning at all for adding 3D so won't happen.

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It's so disappointing that UHD Bluray does not include 3D. Considering that Marvel movies are all 3D and that doesn't appear to change, it's ridiculous that we have to sacrifice 4k and HDR to see the movie at home in 3D.
I'm pretty sure that ALL 3D mastering occurs at 2K DI.

I'm disappointed that immersive soundtracks are exclusive to many 4k releases and immersed from the 3D release.
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