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Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 is Disney's First Ultra HD Blu-ray Title

I don't know of any AV enthusiast who has not eagerly anticipated this day. Disney has finally embraced the Ultra HD Blu-ray format, and the first title to be announced is Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2, which will go on sale August 22.

Obviously, it's exciting that such a great title was selected as the first release. now we just need to see some more Marvel movies, plus Star Wars films released in the highest quality consumer format available! Click the following link to read more: Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 is First Disney 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray

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Is this just the HDR10 version or will it also include DV?

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Glad to hear this, finally. Now, can we get 3D and UHD without having to buy twice?
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Guardians Vol. 2 is one of the best looking (perhaps the BEST) Dolby Cinema releases. Its an explosion of color. Hope DV is on the disk!
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Hopefully the first GotG film will not be too far behind.


This is great, I was honestly worried that BatB would be their first UHD release.


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cmon bestbuy steel book with 4k and 3d....

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Is this just the HDR10 version or will it also include DV?
I highly doubt it wouldn't be, considering the relationship between Dolby and Disney.

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I highly doubt it wouldn't be, considering the relationship between Dolby and Disney.

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I keep checking this site as they keep good track of DV releases. They just recently added The Cabin in the Woods, along with Red and RED2. But so far not this Disney release.

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I highly doubt it wouldn't be, considering the relationship between Dolby and Disney.

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Not sure I agree with you there.... Whats your source?

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Not sure I agree with you there.... Whats your source?
I found a patent, not to long ago that had Disney as the creater of the tone mapping algorithm used in Dolby Vision. Also Disney was one of the first, if not the first to release in Dolby Cinema with Jungle Book.

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Someone in "the press" needs to press Disney on the digital UHD details.
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Finally Disney is starting to release UHDs. I was worried they would skip out and rely purely on streaming content. Very glad to hear. Also glad there will be a 3D version although every home 3D release in the last few months have been some of the worst transfers i have ever seen. Rouge One being one of them. Makes me leery to buy any more 3d even though when done right im a big fan of the format. I may skip out and just get the UHD pack to future proof.

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It's about time. One wonders what took them so long. And hopefully all new Disney releases will be this way from here on -- hopefully they don't decide to roll 4k out in phases or only on certain of their properties/divisions.

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I found a patent, not to long ago that had Disney as the creater of the tone mapping algorithm used in Dolby Vision.
I don't believe this to be true. Dolby has the patents and controls the licensing.

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Tomorrowland (which was Disney) was the first Dolby Vision release in May of 2015.
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Thumbs up Great news on the 3D!!! (Hope the 4K is for "reals"!!!)

This is welcome news indeed as long as Disney doesn't resort to the fake 4K upscaling nonsense that some other studios have resorted to. So far UHD has been a disappointment given the dozen or so 4K blu-ray discs I have bought, over half of which look barely any better than the 1080p blu-ray, if at all. Since my spectacular 2013 model Sony 65" 3D TV XBR-65X900A doesn't support HDR, I was honestly and naively expecting UHD disc playback to look even better than compressed 2160p content on Netflix/Amazon/Vudu/YouTube, but to date that has rarely happened with the glut of fake 4K movies being released by the studios. It's really not a good intro for the medium in that regard. As it is, network broadcasters are looking to implement HDR before 4K, so the reliance of slapping the HDR and Dolby Atmos logos on the packaging under the fraudulent 4K Ultra HD label is just ridiculous to push a combined product package. Yes, I understand that most CG is still rendered at 2K due to time and cost constraints, and that actors don't want you to be able to count their facial hairs, but about half of the 4K blu-ray discs released to date are either not true 4K at all or else have blended elements depending on the scene.

Having said that, I will be buying GotG 2 on 3D blu-ray, as I'll take the sheer dimensional beauty of 3D over 4K every time, although I would love to have both at once. (This would require an 8K passive 3D TV, which does not exist yet on the market.) The unforgivable idiocy of some studios to discontinue 3D disc releases in the United States is at least still frequently overcome with a little patience and simply ordering them from Amazon UK, as I continue to do.

As for the 3D blu-ray releases of the Star Wars films The Force Awakens and Rogue One, I was elated to be able to buy them stateside when they came out and had no major gripes with the transfer. Of course, we can all dream that someday all action films will have the pristine native 3D quality of Avatar, but until then, the significant improvements in post-production 3D conversion over the past five years will have to do. I'm still loving my 3D TV!!!


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Am I dreaming? Is Disney UHD Bluray really almost here???

Kinda surprised they didn't simultaneously announce GotG1 on UHD like most studios do. But then this is Disney we are talking about.

I really hope they finally kick out The Force Awakens UHD Bluray before The Last Jedi comes out, I've been holding out buying regular old Bluray's for about 4 years so I don't double dip on the UHD Bluray and I want to rewatch TFA before TLJ releases.

That said, I'd still take HFR Marvel films over UHD. Ever flippin fight scene in Marvel films is a blurry mess in the theaters. What's it gunna take? Though at least at home, my pj does a decent job with FI on medium without adding any noticeable soap opera affect.

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Arg.... Sounds like a separate 4K and 3D release... Is it really too much to ask to have a 4K/3D combo?

Want to have a 2D blu ray?.... Then let the 3D blu ray have the 2D option... Simple.
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I feel like this isn't necessarily Disney now joining the UHD crowd. It's still quite possible this might be a bit of a "one-off" release seeing as how James Gunn has made it sound like he really had to push hard for this to happen. I'd love to be wrong as I'm waiting very patiently for Tron: Legacy to get some HDR, WCG, and atmos love, as I know that will be a stunner.

Also, in terms of Dolby Vision support, James Gunn has said a lot about how colour is very important and why they chose to screen the premiere at that specific location. He's also made it sound like he's had a fair bit of involvement in this UHD release so it's reasonably possible he's gone all out and had Dolby Vision included too.

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I hope they don't screw it up and not include the Atmos soundtrack!
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Let's hope this means Atmos will be included as well.

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Disney movies in HUD 4K HDR with Dolby Atmos!
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I feel like this isn't necessarily Disney now joining the UHD crowd. It's still quite possible this might be a bit of a "one-off" release seeing as how James Gunn has made it sound like he really had to push hard for this to happen. I'd love to be wrong as I'm waiting very patiently for Tron: Legacy to get some HDR, WCG, and atmos love, as I know that will be a stunner.

Also, in terms of Dolby Vision support, James Gunn has said a lot about how colour is very important and why they chose to screen the premiere at that specific location. He's also made it sound like he's had a fair bit of involvement in this UHD release so it's reasonably possible he's gone all out and had Dolby Vision included too.

Fingers crossed!
This is true, I read and saw a interview with him were he basically went on record stating "He has been very vocal on pushing Disney to release Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 2. on UHD as it was released for Dolby Cinema, with both Dolby Vision & Atmos".

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So far UHD has been a disappointment given the dozen or so 4K blu-ray discs I have bought, over half of which look barely any better than the 1080p blu-ray, if at all. Since my spectacular 2013 model Sony 65" 3D TV XBR-65X900A doesn't support HDR, I was honestly and naively expecting UHD disc playback to look even better than compressed 2160p content on Netflix/Amazon/Vudu/YouTube, but to date that has rarely happened with the glut of fake 4K movies being released by the studios.

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Sorry to hear that you are not impressed with 4K UHD titles. The main reason in my opinion is your TV lacks HDR support. Most people will tell you that the addition of HDR has more benefits than the upgrade to 4K. Even 1080P with HDR might be better than 4K without HDR......HDR is where you will see the major differences on most UHD titles (vs. blu ray). Most 4K TV's today, especially your Sony, will do a great job of upconverting 1080P blu rays to 4K. The upconverted blu ray might look just as good as a 4K disc without HDR. If you want to get the full benefit of 4K, whether from discs or streaming, you will need to upgrade to a TV that handles HDR (one that supports HDR and Dolby Vision would be even better).
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This is welcome news indeed as long as Disney doesn't resort to the fake 4K upscaling nonsense that some other studios have resorted to. So far UHD has been a disappointment given the dozen or so 4K blu-ray discs I have bought, over half of which look barely any better than the 1080p blu-ray, if at all. Since my spectacular 2013 model Sony 65" 3D TV XBR-65X900A doesn't support HDR, I was honestly and naively expecting UHD disc playback to look even better than compressed 2160p content on Netflix/Amazon/Vudu/YouTube, but to date that has rarely happened with the glut of fake 4K movies being released by the studios. It's really not a good intro for the medium in that regard. As it is, network broadcasters are looking to implement HDR before 4K, so the reliance of slapping the HDR and Dolby Atmos logos on the packaging under the fraudulent 4K Ultra HD label is just ridiculous to push a combined product package. Yes, I understand that most CG is still rendered at 2K due to time and cost constraints, and that actors don't want you to be able to count their facial hairs, but about half of the 4K blu-ray discs released to date are either not true 4K at all or else have blended elements depending on the scene.

Having said that, I will be buying GotG 2 on 3D blu-ray, as I'll take the sheer dimensional beauty of 3D over 4K every time, although I would love to have both at once. (This would require an 8K passive 3D TV, which does not exist yet on the market.) The unforgivable idiocy of some studios to discontinue 3D disc releases in the United States is at least still frequently overcome with a little patience and simply ordering them from Amazon UK, as I continue to do.

As for the 3D blu-ray releases of the Star Wars films The Force Awakens and Rogue One, I was elated to be able to buy them stateside when they came out and had no major gripes with the transfer. Of course, we can all dream that someday all action films will have the pristine native 3D quality of Avatar, but until then, the significant improvements in post-production 3D conversion over the past five years will have to do. I'm still loving my 3D TV!!!


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Maybe you need some better cables if you can't see a clear improvement with UHD over 1080p.
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I don't know of any AV enthusiast who has not eagerly anticipated this day. Disney has finally embraced the Ultra HD Blu-ray format, and the first title to be announced is Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2, which will go on sale August 22.

Obviously, it's exciting that such a great title was selected as the first release. now we just need to see some more Marvel movies, plus Star Wars films released in the highest quality consumer format available! Click the following link to read more: Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 is First Disney 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray
The bigger question...will it have Atmos?!!!!
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I'm gonna have my popcorn ready for when the disc comes out in case it doesn't have Dolby Vision and/or Atmos, just for all the posts about how Disney is screwing the director (never mind that the directors work for Disney, not the other way around), the fans too and that it's all a conspiracy to force people to doubledip on an enhanced version down the road.
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Maybe you need some better cables if you can't see a clear improvement with UHD over 1080p.
LOL... Yes, I do admit to loving my AudioQuest cables because they make such a noticeable difference for both 1080p video and for audio quality. The nicely quirky thing about it is that between the fantastic upscaling of my Sony 4K TV and the added clarity of the AQ Carbon HDMI cables, a high quality 1080p blu-ray can look as good as a "fake" 4K blu-ray that was upscaled by the studio from a 2K DI master.

As for "real" 4K content that is mastered in 4K, from 4K+ sources, etc., yes I obviously see a significant increase in resolution and that's what I had hoped to see with 4K UHD blu-rays, but it's clearly often not the case. I will add the caveat that the AQ Carbon cables don't matter nearly as much for improving on 4K sources as they do on 1080p sources (although audio still benefits from the better wiring components), plus the fact that the TV has nothing to upscale if the source from the UHD blu-ray player is already outputting a 4K signal. Hence my own disappointment with now realizing that there are so many "fake" 4K discs on the market, whereas the major streaming services have some genuine, albeit compressed, 4K content.

Bottom line, actual 4K content looks absolutely fantastic on my TV.

[Usual anti-flame disclaimer: Nope, I don't work for AQ or know anyone personally who does. I'm just a very satisfied customer looking to share my enthusiasm with fellow AVS members since personally discovering the difference high quality cables can make.]
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