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i think this IMAX enhanced thing does have a certain appeal if implemented properly and presented certain features.
As a consumer, if i had the option to buy the regular 4k version of Infinity War or the IMAX enchained version that would fill my screen with the version i saw in theaters and provide a better soundtrack, i'd absolutely choose that.

I haven't purchased Infinity War because of all the feedback i've heard of no enhanced aspect ratio and the soundtrack still being overly "disney" compressed.

I for one am still a big 3D fan, and if IMAX could also have a 4k 3D standard where the 4K disk would have a 3D version as well with someone who mastered it and ensured the colors were not altered when using glasses (which i've seen on some BD movies comparing the 3D to 2D), and also perhaps mastered it brighter so that glasses brought it back in line, would be the best of both worlds!
No way that can happen unless the BD association adds UHD 3D to the BD spec. And the way things are going with 3D lately, I would say the chances are close to zero.

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No way that can happen unless the BD association adds UHD 3D to the BD spec. And the way things are going with 3D lately, I would say the chances are close to zero.
Until James Cameron releases 3 Avatar sequels in glasses free 3D cinemas ..... or something along those lines
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I have no problem giving IMAX a shot, they can (in theory) transfer some of their big screen know-how into small screen home theater experience, it's not like Dolby was known for anything other than audio processing prior to DV and Dolby Cinema anyways.

Though realistically, my expectation of this IMAX umbrella at best, is that it will give each company's product a better surviving chance than facing individually against Dolby's behemoth market lead created by Dolby Vision + Atmos. And the most benefit is to be gained from marketing synergy, that (if) the one IMAX brand carries more weight than marketing DTS:X and HDR10+ individually and/or combined. At this point, there are simply too many acronyms and new selling-points to confuse the hell out of the average consumer, simpler is better for marketing.

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Once all equipment is out there to have a complete IMAX Enhanced pipeline I'd be curious to hear/see the difference between the other formats. I'm just still happy that they're still pressing along with physical media, streaming is great and I do majority of my watching on it but movie night is still reserved for Blu-Rays.
I hear you, I am the same way. Something about putting the disc in is nostalgic but the quality is not even comparable. I've found that netflix although does generate pretty decent quality, it just doesn't match what you get on a disc, especially the sound portion in my opinion. I have yet to see a movie in 4k on netflix that I can compare to the disc. Seems all the block busters only get released in 1080p on the flix.

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I hear you, I am the same way. Something about putting the disc in is nostalgic but the quality is not even comparable. I've found that netflix although does generate pretty decent quality, it just doesn't match what you get on a disc, especially the sound portion in my opinion. I have yet to see a movie in 4k on netflix that I can compare to the disc. Seems all the block busters only get released in 1080p on the flix.
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IMAX Enhanced = 16:9 Aspect Ratio Version + Digital Noise Reduction (Video) + Barely Perceptible Front Centre Height Channel Minor Tweak (Audio)

Please excuse me for not being excited

Personally I will be filing this in the same category as CURVED TVs

In cinemas IMAX is all about BIG VIDEO and AUDIO... IMAX on a TV screen? Meh

And regarding native 8K TVs... Does anyone here sit 4 ft / 1.2m away from their TV? Because that's the typical viewing distance wherein everyone will be able to perceive the difference between 4K and 8K. Just sayin':



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IMAX Enhanced = 16:9 Aspect Ratio Version + Digital Noise Reduction (Video) + Barely Perceptible Front Centre Height Channel Minor Tweak (Audio)
IMAX versions of movies are shown in IMAX theatres for a couple of weeks and then end up sitting on the shelf forever. The IMAX Enhanced program is simply a way to bring those versions to home video. Millions of people have already seen the IMAX version theatrically, so it's not like this is some unseen version.

Sometimes the IMAX version has the same 2.35 aspect ratio as the non-IMAX counterpart (Transformers), sometimes the IMAX version is full screen (Blade Runner 2049), sometimes the IMAX version ahs variable/changing aspect ratio (Dark Knight). IMAX Enhanced doesn't mean the movie will have a fixed 16x9 aspect ratio. Also, sometimes the IMAX version has a different running time and different edit.

Their digital noise reduction was demonstrated at CEDIA and did its job effectively (reduced noise without sacrificing fine details). The high centre channel is built into IMAX soundtracks. Don't know why you're disparaging it; what would you gain by eliminating it? How did you arrived at the conclusion that it is "barely perceptible" without hearing any IMAX Enhanced titles? It is no more or less "perceptible" than any other channel.
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IMAX versions of movies are shown in IMAX theatres for a couple of weeks and then end up sitting on the shelf forever. The IMAX Enhanced program is simply a way to bring those versions to home video. Millions of people have already seen the IMAX version theatrically, so it's not like this is some unseen version.

Sometimes the IMAX version has the same 2.35 aspect ratio as the non-IMAX counterpart (Transformers), sometimes the IMAX version is full screen (Blade Runner 2049), sometimes the IMAX version ahs variable/changing aspect ratio (Dark Knight). IMAX Enhanced doesn't mean the movie will have a fixed 16x9 aspect ratio. Also, sometimes the IMAX version has a different running time and different edit.

Their digital noise reduction was demonstrated at CEDIA and did its job effectively (reduced noise without sacrificing fine details). The high centre channel is built into IMAX soundtracks. Don't know why you're disparaging it; what would you gain by eliminating it? How did you arrived at the conclusion that it is "barely perceptible" without hearing any IMAX Enhanced titles? It is no more or less "perceptible" than any other channel.
So what is this doing that is revolutionary and game-changing further to / as compared with any 'non-IMAX' media that includes the following?:

(1) Unmatted image; and/or 16:9 aspect ratio; and/or variable/changing aspect ratio

(2) DNR

(3) Audio mix that makes use of centre height audio channel / positioning

(4) Different running time and different edit

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So what is this doing that is revolutionary and game-changing further to / as compared with any 'non-IMAX' media that includes the following?
Who said it was "revolutionary and game-changing"? You're erecting a strawman just to knock it down. Like I said, IMAX versions of movies play in IMAX theatres and are never seen again. Now they're teaming up with DTS to monetize those dormant assets. Nothing more "revolutionary" than that. IMAX already got permission from various studios to release different versions of their movies on the big screen. This program is just a matter of IMAX getting the OK to release those versions on home video. So far, two studios (Paramount and Sony) have signed on.

Also, most movie soundtracks have their dynamic range squeezed, either subtly or noticeably (Disney), for home video. After all, these soundtracks have to play on soundbars and TV speakers. IMAX is known for their huge dynamics, so they won't be doing any dynamic range reduction for IMAX Enhanced releases on home video. Is that somehow a bad thing?
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That's the best part: no one is asking you to be excited. No one is requiring you to buy these versions. Two companies unrelated to you get together to make use of product that's been sitting on the shelf. I don't get why it bothers you to the point of disparaging it without even having experienced it.

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Who said it was "revolutionary and game-changing"? You're erecting a strawman just to knock it down.
IMAX themselves

The marketing information very clearly implies that this is something new and significantly improved and superior, providing the best possible video and audio, and as such is strongly implying that it is revolutionary and game-changing. I suggest that you go and read it

Here's a mere singular example for you, which is merely the tip of the iceberg:

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Program Launch Partners Include Sony Electronics, Sony Pictures, Paramount Pictures, and Sound United

NEW YORK and SAN JOSE, CA - September 4, 2018 – IMAX Corporation (NYSE: IMAX) and audio leader DTS®, a wholly owned subsidiary of Xperi Corporation (Nasdaq: XPER), today announced a new partnership for the next-generation of home entertainment with the launch of the IMAX® Enhanced program. The new certification and licensing program combines the highest-end consumer electronics products with IMAX digitally re-mastered 4K HDR content and DTS audio technologies to offer consumers a new level of quality in immersive sight and sound experiences for the home.

Illustrating the breadth of the initiative, the companies also announced that a number of global consumer electronics and entertainment market leaders have joined the program as launch partners, including Sony Electronics, Sony Pictures, Paramount Pictures, and Sound United – parent company to Denon and Marantz.

IMAX and DTS developed the program out of their decades of combined expertise in image and sound science to make it easier for consumers to select the products and content that will deliver the highest-quality, sharpest 4K HDR images and powerful, immersive sound at home. The companies are designing an IMAX Mode for the enhanced devices that will be meticulously optimized to play digitally re-mastered content as the filmmaker intended in the home.

Consumers can access content from Hollywood studios as well as select IMAX documentaries through its IMAX Home Entertainment division. The company will also work with its global studio and other content partners to make available a steady stream of enhanced versions of blockbuster movies and additional programming.

“While the IMAX theatrical experience continues to be the gold standard in blockbuster movie-going, today we are launching an exciting new program that applies components of IMAX’s and DTS’ technology and expertise to deliver consumers a level of quality never before experienced at home,” said IMAX CEO Richard L. Gelfond. “This is a natural extension of our core business in experiential entertainment. By partnering with a well-established consumer electronics licensing leader, we can leverage both our brand and key technology innovations through DTS’ global licensing platform, without having to make the direct investments often necessary to build a new revenue stream. DTS will build that new business and we will share in the benefits from the program. We’re encouraged by the strong interest from our launch partner companies and look forward to working with DTS to grow the program further over time.”

“DTS has a rich history in delivering premium entertainment experiences to the theater and at home, and the IMAX Enhanced program is an exciting opportunity to stay at the forefront of home entertainment,” said Xperi CEO Jon Kirchner. “Through the combined engineering and licensing efforts of the DTS and IMAX teams, as well as support from a number of the world’s leading device and content partners, the IMAX Enhanced program will bring a completely new, enhanced experience to the home while also supporting the continued penetration of DTS decoders, bringing premium sound to consumers’ devices.”

To be accepted into the program, leading consumer electronics manufacturers will design top-of-the-line 4K HDR televisions, A/V receivers, sound systems and other home theatre equipment to meet a carefully prescribed set of the highest audio and video performance standards, set by a certification committee of IMAX and DTS engineers and Hollywood’s leading technical specialists.

The program will use the newest, proprietary post-production process developed by IMAX to digitally re-master content to produce more vibrant colors, greater contrast and sharper clarity. The companies will also partner with award-winning Hollywood sound mixers to use a special variant of its DTS:X codec technology integrated in home audio equipment to deliver an IMAX signature sound experience.

The IMAX Enhanced program will launch beginning this fall. For more information about the IMAX Enhanced program, please visit www.IMAXenhanced.com.
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Like I said, IMAX versions of movies play in IMAX theatres and are never seen again. Now they're teaming up with DTS to monetize those dormant assets. Nothing more "revolutionary" than that. IMAX already got permission from various studios to release different versions of their movies on the big screen. This program is just a matter of IMAX getting the OK to release those versions on home video. So far, two studios (Paramount and Sony) have signed on.
Yes I know what IMAX and IMAX enhanced are thanks. And good to see that you agree with me that IMAX enhanced is not revolutionary, despite the marketing spiel claiming it is.

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I don't get why it bothers you to the point of disparaging it without even having experienced it.
Firstly, I have experienced it. Twice in fact. And in both instances I really did not consider it anything special beyond what can simply be achieved outside of the IMAX branding. For example, the DNR is pretty good, but nothing more than pretty good DNR that I have seen many times elsewhere. The same applies with respect to everything else.

It doesn't bother me in the slightest. I simply (correctly) observed that is not doing anything new, revolutionary or game-changing and hence I am not excited about it. That is all.

As it happens, I will probably buy some of the IMAX Enhanced Titles, but not because they are IMAX Enhanced per se, but simply if they offer a good version of whatever media content. And thereby no different than when I purchased the Diamond Edition of Gravity for example.

Either way, I am perfectly entitled to offer an opinion. Please feel free to disagree

Furthermore, you haven't answered my question, namely what is this doing that is revolutionary and game-changing (or if you prefer: 'new and/or different' ) further to / as compared with any 'non-IMAX' media that includes the following?:

(1) Unmatted image; and/or 16:9 aspect ratio; and/or variable/changing aspect ratio

(2) DNR

(3) Audio mix that makes use of centre height audio channel / positioning

(4) Different running time and different edit


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I have and there's no mention of it being revolutionary and game-changing. Anything you personally inferred is simply that.
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No mention of it being revolutionary and game-changing in the marketing material.
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Still starting from the false premise that it is revolutionary and game changing. It's simply a version that hasn't been released on home video yet.

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I have and there's no mention of it being revolutionary and game-changing. Anything you personally inferred is simply that. No mention of it being revolutionary and game-changing in the marketing material. Still starting from the false premise that it is revolutionary and game changing. It's simply a version that hasn't been released on home video yet.
I think you need to go and read it again

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Game-changing: "a newly introduced element or factor that changes an existing situation or activity in a significant way"

Revolutionary: "causing or relating to a great or complete change"


Let's see what the IMAX Enhanced marketing information says shall we?


New Certification and Licensing Program Gives Consumers Access to the Highest-Quality Image and Sound Experiences for the Home

The next-generation of home entertainment

Offers consumers a new level of quality in immersive sight and sound experiences for the home

IMAX and DTS developed the program out of their decades of combined expertise in image and sound science

Will deliver the highest-quality, sharpest 4K HDR images and powerful, immersive sound at home

Today we are launching an exciting new program that applies components of IMAX’s and DTS’ technology and expertise

To deliver consumers a level of quality never before experienced at home

The IMAX Enhanced program is an exciting opportunity to stay at the forefront of home entertainment

The IMAX Enhanced program will bring a completely new, enhanced experience to the home

The program will use the newest, proprietary post-production process developed by IMAX

To produce more vibrant colors, greater contrast and sharper clarity

A special variant of its DTS:X codec technology integrated in home audio equipment


Yeah, there's no mention of it being revolutionary or game-changing, is there?


And by the way, that's just ONE press release! Just the tip of the iceberg...


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Yeah, there's no mention of it being revolutionary or game-changing, is there?
Correct, there isn't. If this is your first time reading a press release, then someone should have warned you not to take typical marketing hyperbole literally, let alone inferring things not stated.
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Correct, there isn't. If this is your first time reading a press release, then someone should have warned you not to take typical marketing hyperbole literally, let alone inferring things not stated.
There are in fact several instances of statements being made that most certainly fall within the English language definitions for Game-Changing and Revolutionary.

You are just too stubborn to admit it.

And that's just one press release... the tip of the iceberg.

So let's just agree to disagree, OK?

Everyone else can make up their own minds...

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Alot of speculation but has anyone seen the 2 titles yet? I wouldnt mind an enhanced experience:-)
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Auro-3D is basically DOA in USA side....
When I got my 8500H in February I was gung-ho to embrace it, even made dual speaker layout study


However by early summer I instead decided on a dual atmos set-up, 9.2.4 and 7.2.6.

Very skeptical on IMAX Enhanced truly getting any traction in the USA market.
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I will be picking up " A beautiful planet" when it's available. I'm sure the picture will be even better than Samsara was.

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I'm prepped to watch a copy of Journey to the South Pacific that I managed to get my hands on early.

One thing I was confused about is what display settings to use, but turns out IMAX mode is for the AVRs and audio. For video, selecting an appropriate calibrated/movie mode is all you need and really any good TV should offer the "full" visual experience if you sit close enough and it's got the specs to reproduce 4K UHD HDR properly.
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I have and there's no mention of it being revolutionary and game-changing. Anything you personally inferred is simply that. No mention of it being revolutionary and game-changing in the marketing material. Still starting from the false premise that it is revolutionary and game changing. It's simply a version that hasn't been released on home video yet.
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I think you need to go and read it again

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Revolutionary: "causing or relating to a great or complete change"


Let's see what the IMAX Enhanced marketing information says shall we?


New Certification and Licensing Program Gives Consumers Access to the Highest-Quality Image and Sound Experiences for the Home

The next-generation of home entertainment

Offers consumers a new level of quality in immersive sight and sound experiences for the home

IMAX and DTS developed the program out of their decades of combined expertise in image and sound science

Will deliver the highest-quality, sharpest 4K HDR images and powerful, immersive sound at home

Today we are launching an exciting new program that applies components of IMAX’s and DTS’ technology and expertise

To deliver consumers a level of quality never before experienced at home

The IMAX Enhanced program is an exciting opportunity to stay at the forefront of home entertainment

The IMAX Enhanced program will bring a completely new, enhanced experience to the home

The program will use the newest, proprietary post-production process developed by IMAX

To produce more vibrant colors, greater contrast and sharper clarity

A special variant of its DTS:X codec technology integrated in home audio equipment


Yeah, there's no mention of it being revolutionary or game-changing, is there?


And by the way, that's just ONE press release! Just the tip of the iceberg...

IMO, I have to go with @sdurani here. The language there is par for the course. Boring semantics reminiscent of debates whether iPhone was revolutionary, or "just" combined things that already existed, in an easily marketed package promoted enthusiastically, that happened to highly influence the industries it's associated with.

Curious to see how IMAX Enhanced does, but I'm quite clear-eyed about the fact it's based on (and compatible with) existing AV technologies, so that in itself makes it quite obviously an evolution of home entertainment. And that can still be exciting and new.

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For video, selecting an appropriate calibrated/movie mode is all you need and really any good TV should offer the "full" visual experience if you sit close enough and it's got the specs to reproduce 4K UHD HDR properly.
You can do the same for audio: change the crossover setting to 70Hz and turn off any dynamic range compression. On hardware (audio & video), IMAX Enhanced mode is just a series of settings that are automatically switched to when the IMAX Enhanced flag is detected. Like you said, based on existing technologies. The main difference is in the software (unreleased IMAX versions of movies).
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As far as what the manufacturer does and what the display does as relates to IMAX Enhanced, I do not have enough details to have a proper discussion... Yet.

More info is coming soon. I'm talking to IMAX and Sony and Sound United about this.
What I want to know is, how can Sony claim that their projectors are IMAX Enhanced compatible, when by all accounts, they will not even be offering a firmware upgrade to add the/an IMAX mode to facilitate the 'certification'.

Sounds like they are doing their usual thing of spouting unsubstantiated/unverifiable marketing bull to me.

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I'm prepped to watch a copy of Journey to the South Pacific that I managed to get my hands on early.

One thing I was confused about is what display settings to use, but turns out IMAX mode is for the AVRs and audio. For video, selecting an appropriate calibrated/movie mode is all you need and really any good TV should offer the "full" visual experience if you sit close enough and it's got the specs to reproduce 4K UHD HDR properly.
I thought as much. IMAX enhanced to the video side is actually nothing more than a 'sitting closer mode'. I can do that now.

Why are they bothering if any old TV can be included? How are they going to monetise that? As for the sound, just turn it up a bit! Done.

Disappointed that it is basically blurb and a badge.

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any good TV should offer the "full" visual experience if you sit close enough and it's got the specs to reproduce 4K UHD HDR properly.
What is a "full" visual experience. I don't think I've ever heard that before. So what are the required specifications to properly reproduce 4K UHD HDR if you're in the market for a 4K UHD HDR enabled TV that, supposedly, can reproduce 4K UHD HDR content?
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No way that can happen unless the BD association adds UHD 3D to the BD spec. And the way things are going with 3D lately, I would say the chances are close to zero.
They could stuff two frames into one by encoding UHD Blurays as over-unders, without any change to the spec whatsoever.

3840 x 2160 / 2 = 3840 x 1080 for left eye, 3840 x 1080 for right eye, and match exactly the interlaced passive 3D of recent OLEDs. This would work at 24 and 60 fps, equally well.

No change needed. They could even do anamorphic encoding by setting the aspect ratio flag to 21:9 somehow, and in Scope movies stuff more vertical resolution in there (by not encoding black bars but stretching the source material), so it would be closer to 4K per eye. I don't expect this last part to happen automatically, except maybe with Java. But I'm not sure if UHD Blurays still support Java.

Another thing to mention is that in 3D Blurays there is a black gap between the eyes so there is no encoding "bleed" between the eyes. But HEVC can encode film to other resolutions than 3840 x 2160, but I'm not sure if UHD Blurays allow arbitrary resolutions of just strictly 2160p. I suspect so. Still, 3D is possible and over-under is a standard supported 3D mode on every TV and projector.
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No way that can happen unless the BD association adds UHD 3D to the BD spec. And the way things are going with 3D lately, I would say the chances are close to zero.
They could stuff two frames into one by encoding UHD Blurays as over-unders, without any change to the spec whatsoever.

3840 x 2160 / 2 = 3840 x 1080 for left eye, 3840 x 1080 for right eye, and match exactly the interlaced passive 3D of recent OLEDs. This would work at 24 and 60 fps, equally well.

No change needed. They could even do anamorphic encoding by setting the aspect ratio flag to 21:9 somehow, and in Scope movies stuff more vertical resolution in there (by not encoding black bars but stretching the source material), so it would be closer to 4K per eye. I don't expect this last part to happen automatically, except maybe with Java. But I'm not sure if UHD Blurays still support Java.

Another thing to mention is that in 3D Blurays there is a black gap between the eyes so there is no encoding "bleed" between the eyes. But HEVC can encode film to other resolutions than 3840 x 2160, but I'm not sure if UHD Blurays allow arbitrary resolutions of just strictly 2160p. I suspect so. Still, 3D is possible and over-under is a standard supported 3D mode on every TV and projector.
If the BDA ever added 4k 3D support, even though there seems to be no cinema DCP spec for it - right now 3D DI's are 2k, it would be differentially frame packed with a secondary sub HEVC video stream along the lines of 3D Blu-ray currently for backwards compatibility. That's how the BDA shoe-horned in 3D in the first place to the 1080p Blu-ray spec later on.

The sub stream model is how Dolby Vision is attached to the HDR10 main stream on UHD Blu-ray to maintain backwards compatibility.

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I'm prepped to watch a copy of Journey to the South Pacific that I managed to get my hands on early.

One thing I was confused about is what display settings to use, but turns out IMAX mode is for the AVRs and audio. For video, selecting an appropriate calibrated/movie mode is all you need and really any good TV should offer the "full" visual experience if you sit close enough and it's got the specs to reproduce 4K UHD HDR properly.
Do you have any followup on this? The HDR10+ titles have been out for a couple days and I haven't seen any comments from anyone with an HDR10+ setup, which I assume you have. I'm not looking for a full review, just wondering if HDR10+ is working properly and there's some sort of proof of it on the display. Maybe a way to compare it with HDR10? Thanks Mark!
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Do you have any followup on this? The HDR10+ titles have been out for a couple days and I haven't seen any comments from anyone with an HDR10+ setup, which I assume you have. I'm not looking for a full review, just wondering if HDR10+ is working properly and there's some sort of proof of it on the display. Maybe a way to compare it with HDR10? Thanks Mark!
I have a calibrated HDR10+ capable and an uncalibrated IMAX Enhanced TV in my possession. But I have not watched the new releases on either, instead I watched it on my projection rig. I wanted to calibrate the 85" X900F before I use it to watch this, which I was hoping to have done already but now looks like a project for this weekend.

Having said that, I don;t think there's a way to "properly" compare, it's two totally different TVs (the other is a 75" Samsung Q8FN).

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I have a calibrated HDR10+ capable and an uncalibrated IMAX Enhanced TV in my possession. But I have not watched the new releases on either, instead I watched it on my projection rig. I wanted to calibrate the 85" X900F before I use it to watch this, which I was hoping to have done already but now looks like a project for this weekend.

Having said that, I don;t think there's a way to "properly" compare, it's two totally different TVs (the other is a 75" Samsung Q8FN).
I assume whatever Samsung UBD player you are using is HDR10+ capable? Is there a way to toggle it to HDR10 like other players can do with Dolby Vision? If not, could you compare with an HDR10 only UBD player on the Q8FN?

If not, comparison isn't high on my priority list. I'm more interested in seeing proof of HDR10+ on the display. So far as Amazon is concerned, I've not seen any proof in any display designation saying the Samsung displays are actually using HDR10+. So it would be nice to see if the discs finally provide some sort of proof.
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