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DV vs HDR10+ — TV Purchase Decision

Hello all. I am buying a new 75+ for the family room. It has 18’ of sliding glass door perpendicular to the tv wall (about 10-15 feet away from center of TV). So I want something that handles that light well (bright, anti reflective). Also it’s a larger room so wide viewing angle is a very big plus.

I was looking at Sam Q80, I love that it is QLED so the picture quality for watching movies at night will be awesome. It also has great brightness, good viewing angle, and gaming friendly features. But it has HDR10+ and not DV. We (for better or worse) are completely invested in Apple digital media (abandoned physical media years ago). All Apple digital media appears to be going to support DV and not HDR10+.

Should I make my purchase decision around which of these two formats is supported by the TV?

The Sony 950G would be the unit I would look at next. It supports DV, but appears to have lesser video quality than the Q80, so I feel like I’d be getting a worse TV just for the DV feature.

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Hello all. I am buying a new 75+ for the family room. It has 18’ of sliding glass door perpendicular to the tv wall (about 10-15 feet away from center of TV). So I want something that handles that light well (bright, anti reflective). Also it’s a larger room so wide viewing angle is a very big plus.

I was looking at Sam Q80, I love that it is QLED so the picture quality for watching movies at night will be awesome. It also has great brightness, good viewing angle, and gaming friendly features. But it has HDR10+ and not DV. We (for better or worse) are completely invested in Apple digital media (abandoned physical media years ago). All Apple digital media appears to be going to support DV and not HDR10+.

Should I make my purchase decision around which of these two formats is supported by the TV?

The Sony 950G would be the unit I would look at next. It supports DV, but appears to have lesser video quality than the Q80, so I feel like I’d be getting a worse TV just for the DV feature.

Help!?
I’m not a Samsung fan lately. I would tell you to get an oled. They probably get much brighter than the 1080p tv you are replacing so it shouldn’t be an issue. I have sun that directly shines on my oled for a couple hours a day it doesn’t cause issues. But since you are not, I wouldn’t worry too much about Dolby vision or hdr10+. I’m not 100% sure if the Apple TV will switch to hdr10 in iTunes but I think it does. I’m pretty sure Netflix does. Maybe somebody can correct me on that. So buy what looks the best to you. That is what is most important. If you buy a “lesser” tv in your mind it will always be a “lesser” tv to you.

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Hello all. I am buying a new 75+ for the family room. It has 18’ of sliding glass door perpendicular to the tv wall (about 10-15 feet away from center of TV). So I want something that handles that light well (bright, anti reflective). Also it’s a larger room so wide viewing angle is a very big plus.

I was looking at Sam Q80, I love that it is QLED so the picture quality for watching movies at night will be awesome. It also has great brightness, good viewing angle, and gaming friendly features. But it has HDR10+ and not DV. We (for better or worse) are completely invested in Apple digital media (abandoned physical media years ago). All Apple digital media appears to be going to support DV and not HDR10+.

Should I make my purchase decision around which of these two formats is supported by the TV?

The Sony 950G would be the unit I would look at next. It supports DV, but appears to have lesser video quality than the Q80, so I feel like I’d be getting a worse TV just for the DV feature.

Help!?
Honestly if you are fully vested in the Apple ecosystem, I would wait and see which tech they decide to support. I don't know how much difference there is between HDR10+ and DV, they both support metadata. But since your all in with Apple it makes the most sense to wait on them.
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I’m not a Samsung fan lately. I would tell you to get an oled. They probably get much brighter than the 1080p tv you are replacing so it shouldn’t be an issue. I have sun that directly shines on my oled for a couple hours a day it doesn’t cause issues. But since you are not, I wouldn’t worry too much about Dolby vision or hdr10+. I’m not 100% sure if the Apple TV will switch to hdr10 in iTunes but I think it does. I’m pretty sure Netflix does. Maybe somebody can correct me on that. So buy what looks the best to you. That is what is most important. If you buy a “lesser” tv in your mind it will always be a “lesser” tv to you.
I feel like buy a lesser picture with DV support or buy a better picture without and in 5 years I will be upset I didn’t go for the DV...

Do you think DV will not be that much improvement over HDR10? (I expect HDR10+ will not survive)
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I feel like buy a lesser picture with DV support or buy a better picture without and in 5 years I will be upset I didn’t go for the DV...

Do you think DV will not be that much improvement over HDR10? (I expect HDR10+ will not survive)
I don’t think hdr10+ going to die. I think it’s going to end up like Dts x. Not one streaming movie I have bought use it that I can tell. A couple 4K Blu-ray’s have it. But everything else is pretty much is Dolby Atmos.
You are looking at 2 TVs. I still say buy an oled. If you are looking to future proof. Not only Dolby vision but a majority of the manufacturers Samsung included are moving to oled by 2021/22. Vizio will have one out next year. So there will be more cost effective options hopefully. So your tv that you buy now will be out of date pretty quickly. That goes for every tv though. Manufacturers find ways to improve them every year for people to upgrade.
Back to your options. You need to research the Sony 950g and see how Dolby vision works with the Apple TV. I think it might be darker than the apps on the tv. Which means iTunes could be darker than it should be using Dolby vision on that tv. That should be of interest to you since you are in the Apple ecosystem. On my lg oled the Apple TV Dolby vision is brighter than the apps on the tv. that’s why I bought an Apple TV. You need to research the 950g and the q80 if they are your only options now. Read about all their flaws and decide which one you want.
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I don’t think hdr10+ going to die. I think it’s going to end up like Dts x.
So dead then.

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Get a universal hdr tv, why choose between one or the other (DV or hdr10+), sony and samsung tv's don't do universal hdr. With AV receivers, most that support atmos also support dts x.
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Well. I am new here but have worked in magnolia for quite some time. I only lurk on these forums.

I figured why not give a mild opinion given no one on here is able to fully assist you with you needs.

First off. Wide viewing angles and deeper contrasts are what you are wanting. VA panels in general will be best for your room and lighting situation. I personally am a huge lean towards Sony TVs because they are a mixture of IPS and VA panels. However, given the x950g would be the better option given it has the x1 ultimate processor capable of enhancing even the smallest details adding brightness, contrast and natural color where needed most. This will help with giving most realistic picture quality in conjunction with dolby vision effects.

Now samsung Q80 is a decent TV, samsung is the Q90 or nothing. Reasoning being the more LED “quadrants” that the panel possesses on top of having the highest bit of color in the 2019 TV line up. 4x that of Sony. However, i am not a huge fan of Samsung using their blue hue of LED lighting to capture the “wider spectrum of color they claim”.

With any TV calibration is ideal, and highly recommended.

Back to Sony, I do like the Netflix calibration mode it offers if you are a streamer. Quite interesting. The Sony TV’s quality in their flagships mimic their superiority in the movie production industry, noted the x950 wouldn’t be equivalent to the oleds black and white levels, it still is an awesome panel when comparing to the samsung. When we have had the samsung/sony side by side, without calibration, out of the box, Sony has less peak brightness, but crisper lines and more clarity with picture. When panning in a motion picture such as “pirates of the Caribbean” there was motion jitter with the samsung, flawless with the sony. Blues and purples were more vibrant with the samsung, however greens/browns/reds were realistically apparent with Sony.

Samsung is more for gaming.
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Also my complete honest opinion is wait for the 2020 line up prior to making your decision because HDMI 2.1 will be in Samsung or Sony TVs and that is a huge game changer...
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He probably already made his choice since this thread is 4 months old, but you'd be nuts to only consider antiquated LCD tech (at the exclusion of emissive) for your home theater purchase.
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He probably already made his choice since this thread is 4 months old, but you'd be nuts to only consider antiquated LCD tech (at the exclusion of emissive) for your home theater purchase.
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