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post #5221 of 8181 Old 02-11-2017, 09:31 PM
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A CPU spike to 7%. That shouldn't kill anything. I vote defective.
Negative Ghost Rider. Router is fine. I took back the rt-n56u and upgraded to the RT-AC68u. 1Ghz dual core CPU, yada yada yada, and the crazy rubber banding (lag spikes) continue. For a little more information on my network setup, I have AT&T fiber and they provide an Arris 5268AC modem/router. That 5268AC doesn't have upnp and I am unable to effectively forward the ports for my outdoor security cameras. So, according to the ole google and att forums, the trick to bridging the 5268AC and allow a differnent router to manage the network is to take the MAC address of that router, and DMZ that mac address. I did that, and all is right with the world, cameras work, upnp works, hooray. But...for some reason it causes this rubber banding that does not exist when I use the 5268AC by itself. I have no idea if there is a better way to bridge the 5268AC, or a better way to forward the ports so that I can allow the 5268AC to manage the network. It's a real head scratcher. At this point, I'm wondering if I should just put all the cameras on a single router, DMZ that router and let the 5268AC manage the rest of the network. No upnp, so I would have to forward the ports for PS4, XBOX live, etc. Anyone in KC manage networks? I called AT&T and they referred me to Connect Tech. BTW, Connect Tech is a company that fixes issues like this for a fee (it's owned by AT&T). Yep.
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Start unplugging things one at a time until your rubber banding stops. Then at least you'll know what you are dealing with. I'd start with The cameras.

Also are you using any type of QoS.

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@JDontee , Do you have issues with REW when you take back to back sweeps with the same mic without changing anything -- where REW for some reason only does half a sweep or, even that the FR results vary by as much as 5dB per sweep?

I've got my mic on a mic stand, I'm sitting in the exact same place (out of the way), and yet my REW captures are NOT consistent. I've tried both my laptop and my desktop. Same thing. I was going to try to compare my four Audyssey mics, but if I can't get consistency with just a single mic - there is 0 value in trying to compare the mics.

I'll admit this may be user error, as I'm not real familiar with REW, but I sure miss my omnimic at this point. (though I don't have a way to easily compare the Audyssey mics with omnimic since it only works with the omnimic. (I previously actually had to run an Audyssey calibration multiple times (with the mic in the same position) and compare the Audyssey output to compare mics.)

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Nope. Each sweep is identical.
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Start unplugging things one at a time until your rubber banding stops. Then at least you'll know what you are dealing with. I'd start with The cameras.

Also are you using any type of QoS.
No qos. Not sure if I mentioned above, but there is no rubberbanding when everything is hooked up to the att router. But in that scenario, I can't use the cameras. I'll give it a shot. I'm also going to try different brands of routers. Fingers crossed it's something with Asus firmware.
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No qos. Not sure if I mentioned above, but there is no rubberbanding when everything is hooked up to the att router. But in that scenario, I can't use the cameras. I'll give it a shot. I'm also going to try different brands of routers. Fingers crossed it's something with Asus firmware.
When I had ATT I had issues with my router as well. It was a apple airport. Eventually I think I disconnected it. Having trouble remembering because I think I went back and forth. If I were as tech savvy as you guys perhaps I would have been able to figure it out. When I asked ATT about this their solution was to only use the ATT router which was located in the basement which meant poor coverage for the rest of the house. But they had fulfilled their obligation so that box was checked and conversation over.

Now with Google Fiber my access point is still in the basement which allows me to hardwire all my components there but I also ran a RJ45 to the main floor closet where that same apple airport resides and it works flawlessly to send a good signal throughout the home.

My experience with the ATT tech guys was always positive. Even when they could not fix it they were very nice about it. They really tried. But, just couldn't sort it out.
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So here's a fun little update on my AT&T fiber situation. I'll summarize: AT&T provides the Arris 5268AC modem/router which does not have upnp and has port forwarding issues. The only way to bridge it, is to assign the mac address of a router as a DMZ+in the firewall setting, then allowing the router to manage the network. For some reason, both the Asus RT-N56u and Asus RT-AC68u had issues with lag while gaming. I did factory resets, checked cables, updated firmwares, and nothing fixed it. I was about to allow the 5268AC to manage the network and then put all of my cameras on a single DMZ's router when I thought that maybe it was just the Asus brand for whatever reason. So I went to microcenter and bought a $50 Tenda Router, updated the firmware, and it works perfectly so far. The only bad thing so far is the throughput is 100Mbps less than the asus for downloads. Not a big deal because it went from 940's to 840's. I'll pay the price for no lag or drop connections during gaming.

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Just a heads up. Target has a buy 2 get 1 free deal going on right now (I think just this week). This includes 4K titles, and some pre-orders options as well.

I just got Hacksaw Ridge, The Arrival, and Doctor Strange (Not 4K, but I wanted to check out the 3D on this one, so I got the blu). I also got Fantastic Beasts, which is unfortunately not included in the offer, but it did have a $5 gift card offer. All in all, about $85 for the 4 titles. $80 factoring in the gift card.

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@carp - Metallica tickets going on sale tomorrow! Getting some?
Damn... no KC...

but yes, probably.
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St. Louis says tickets on sale Friday, where are you seeing Tuesday?
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Thought I would post this in the local thread. After buying tickets to JW2 I saw the cool swag for Kong Skull Island.

First, of all I have never been to the Alamo Draft House and I'm pumped.

Second, there is a cool glass available in limited quantities with ticket purchase for Kong.

https://drafthouse.com/kong/kansas-city

I am tempted to go but hard for me to commit to anything. I went ahead and went through the check out process to see how much the glass was and it is $10. I was hoping for cheaper. But, still I think the artwork on the glass is stellar and Kong is such a classic piece of cinema it is hard for me to resist.
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Drafthouse does glasses like that a lot. They kick ass more often than not. Rogue one's were pretty sweet:



Definitely something to keep an eye out for in the future.

While you are there friday you will likely be able to pick up some glasses from past movies - they have them on the counter (I think for the same price). Rogue one is likely sold out though.
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Drafthouse does glasses like that a lot. They kick ass more often than not. Rogue one's were pretty sweet:



Definitely something to keep an eye out for in the future.

While you are there friday you will likely be able to pick up some glasses from past movies - they have them on the counter (I think for the same price). Rogue one is likely sold out though.
Just had to show me the rad Rogue One glass that I can't get!!! Love that thing. I'm going to need to pay more attention to that place. Might be some things that a guy just can't live without!

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Just had to show me the rad Rogue One glass that I can't get!!! Love that thing. I'm going to need to pay more attention to that place. Might be some things that a guy just can't live without!
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If anyone local, or coming to the crawl has a umik, I'd love to compare mine with it for a few sweeps. My microphone has either been in its case or on the mic stand, and never dropped. I'm curious if it has always been wrong or if this is just a difference between UMIK and Omni (doubtful). Pretty cool considering the hours I've spent calibrating may have been wasted.
My UMIK mic is only a few weeks old, but I have suspicions that the low end is woefully out of whack. (20-50hz range) It claims a -20db down at 40hz. When I eq to correct that, it's feels ridiculously too hot. (Or maybe it's just my really bass friendly room O_o )

I picked it up from cross spectrum.
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My UMIK mic is only a few weeks old, but I have suspicions that the low end is woefully out of whack. (20-50hz range) It claims a -20db down at 40hz. When I eq to correct that, it's feels ridiculously too hot. (Or maybe it's just my really bass friendly room O_o )

I picked it up from cross spectrum.
Opposite to mine. Mine reads 3dbs higher than carp and Luke's omnimics in the lower range. I can bring mine to your house during the crawl if you want to compare. I won't be using it for awhile. Did they give you a calibration file?
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Why didn't I think of that?

Better yet......why didn't I think of going to all of the premiers and buying a $10 glass and then throwing it up on ebay for $30. Put the profits towards Iglesias tickets! More Bailando! C'mon now. I know some of you gave it another listen for possible demo material. It sounds so good!
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Why didn't I think of that?

Better yet......why didn't I think of going to all of the premiers and buying a $10 glass and then throwing it up on ebay for $30. Put the profits towards Iglesias tickets! More Bailando! C'mon now. I know some of you gave it another listen for possible demo material. It sounds so good!
Ha. I had a friend, who is Mexican, over recently and was showing him some clips. He made me play Bailando all the way through.

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@Jeff Permanian left the the JTR 212HT and the JTR ULF 4000 in Kansas City for the locals to pass around for a month or two. @desertdome will pick them up for a future JTR event showcase at some point in March or April.
Please speak up if you are interested in demoing the equipment for a week or so of that time in your place.

(this will obviously have to be people we trust - so don't expect to get these if you have like 5 posts and nobody knows you -- sorry, but I think you can understand why - it's ~ $7K worth of top shelf gear, and the opportunity is available because we've proved trustworthy in the past)
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Im jealous and you guys that hosted/attended are spoiled

thanx for sharing tho

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@Jeff Permanian left the the JTR 212HT and the JTR ULF 4000 in Kansas City for the locals to pass around for a month or two. @desertdome will pick them up for a future JTR event showcase at some point in March or April.
Please speak up if you are interested in demoing the equipment for a week or so of that time in your place.

(this will obviously have to be people we trust - so don't expect to get these if you have like 5 posts and nobody knows you -- sorry, but I think you can understand why - it's ~ $7K worth of top shelf gear, and the opportunity is available because we've proved trustworthy in the past)
I might be interested in grabbing the 212s for a week so I can give an opinion to a friend who's thinking about making a speaker change. I want no part of the 4000ULF since I don't want my building reduced to rubble.

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I gotta figure out how to get that 4000 to NC to test out... I told the check-bag folks I had one and they said they wouldn't even think of being able to load that on a regular flight. Pansies.
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@Jeff Permanian left the the JTR 212HT and the JTR ULF 4000 in Kansas City for the locals to pass around for a month or two. @desertdome will pick them up for a future JTR event showcase at some point in March or April.
Please speak up if you are interested in demoing the equipment for a week or so of that time in your place.

(this will obviously have to be people we trust - so don't expect to get these if you have like 5 posts and nobody knows you -- sorry, but I think you can understand why - it's ~ $7K worth of top shelf gear, and the opportunity is available because we've proved trustworthy in the past)
I know I have more then 5 post, but I don't want to have to get the 4000 down to my basement to check out and my wife has already made it clear after told her about it and the 212's that I would not be getting that much bass in the HT. My basement is mostly unfinished like Dougs', but bigger and it would probably piss off the neighbors
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I might be interested in grabbing the 212s for a week so I can give an opinion to a friend who's thinking about making a speaker change. I want no part of the 4000ULF since I don't want my building reduced to rubble.
Let me know when you want them, if you help load I'll help unload.
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@Jeff Permanian left the the JTR 212HT and the JTR ULF 4000 in Kansas City for the locals to pass around for a month or two. @desertdome will pick them up for a future JTR event showcase at some point in March or April.
Please speak up if you are interested in demoing the equipment for a week or so of that time in your place.

(this will obviously have to be people we trust - so don't expect to get these if you have like 5 posts and nobody knows you -- sorry, but I think you can understand why - it's ~ $7K worth of top shelf gear, and the opportunity is available because we've proved trustworthy in the past)
I don't want to demo them at my place, but would be interested in hearing them in someone else's room.

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Btw, I'm going to the 10AM showing of Logan on 3/4 at the Town Center Dolby theater for anyone that may want to join.

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I returned that JVC RS600 back to Mike Garrett and hung the Panasonic AE8000U Panasonic back up. My family and I watched How to Train your Dragon last night and I admit it was very disappointing at first. Colors initially looked blue on the Panasonic, and not nearly as bright, and not nearly as inky black contrast levels. I at first thought something was wrong, because surely it shouldn't look that bad in comparison. But I checked the settings and everything was optimal.


To give an idea of the black level difference - I have smoked glass on the front of my rack and with the Panasonic Projector, on a black scene you can't see the orange glow from the iNuke's on the screen through the smoked glass, but with the JVC projector on you very obviously could see that orange glow and so for the crawl I covered the iNukes in the rack with a towel. With the Panasonic there is no need, because the blacks just aren't black enough to even show that dimmed orange light on the screen. The blacks are a very dark gray, not a true black. I've always said a projector can't throw black, so ambient light control is important to my friends at work who inquire about projectors, but want to have a bright room. But, if you didn't know better you might think that JVC could actually throw black.


Whatever -- I settled in, enjoyed the movie, and by the end of it I thought the image quality looked fine again, and was satisfied.


Funny - - I attribute this to like when you first throw in a DVD after being used to watching BluRays --- at first you think this picture quality sucks, but after half the movie you completely forget about it, and by the end you think - "that was a great cinematic experience."
Maybe not that big of a delta --- but just along those lines.


How to Train your Dragon would have looked super impressive with all the dark scenes on the JVC RS600, but in the end - I can still enjoy the movie experience even on the ole Panasonic. (We'll see if that quality difference memory eats at me over time and pushes up my new projector purchase date. I suspect not, but time will tell. Before the meet my expected projector upgrade horizon was 2-3 years more. My goal was to wait until true 4K was in the $2-$2.5K range)

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Could also be the much closer to a true calibrated colors vs the over saturated and non-calibrated colors on the Panny. Grant and Carp were talking about the importance of reference colors just before the meet.

These JVC's do look super nice.
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