Originally Posted by jeahrens
Out of curiosity have you played around at all with a Panasonic player, like the 420, and their HDR Optimizer. I haven't seen HDR in person on more than a couple 5040's but they seemed to handle it well.
As far as HDR on a projector, the RS520 had a lot of instances where the UHD counterpart in HDR better than the 2K counterpart (and not just due to the color). As JediMasterGrant says the DTM update on the NX/RSxxxx lineup is another notch up in quality and makes the experience very close to plug and play.
Granted a Panasonic and the HDR Optimizer wouldn't help with Disney + (unless they get an app), but I'd bet after using it with the RS520 you could at least say you'd seen worthwhile HDR on your projector.
I bought a 420 panasonic player on Black Friday. So far I still haven't found the benefit of HDR, but I have found the benefit of better colors in the BT2020. (even if the 5040UB projector can't actually truly hit BT2020.) Kris Deering suggests any incomplete HDR implementation hardware (like the 5040UB 10Gbps limitation) should use HDR stripping and SDR + BT2020. After playing with the settings back and forth initially I tend to agree with him. But I will continue to tinker.
What the 420 player can do is make a 4K movies watchable on the 5040UB without crazy custom gamma hack settings like HarperVision. Previously, without HarperVision settings, anything 4K HDR looked worse than 1080P SDR on the 5040UB in my opinion - including 4K disks. They were washed out as the major problem.
The only reason I'd even consider the 4K disks at all with the hardware I have is sometimes the 1080P bluray doesn't have Atmos audio. So then I get to pick my poison - either give up picture quality, or give up audio quality. Harpervsion helped, and I can see where the Panasonic 420 can help even more - or at least make the video quality more plug and play/easily tunable per disk.
Like you say - The Panasonic player has no app support for Disney + though.
Also - is Disney cheating resolution on its streaming service?
When I watched Mandalorian on 1080p streaming from my Windows 10 machine web browser it seemed more like a 720p stream or DVD quality image. The colors were okay being SDR, but the 4K streaming from the Amazon firestick looked of much higher resolution/quality/detail on the scenes you could actually see -- like looking at baby yoda's hair in the sunlight. That's not usually an issue between true 1080p and true 4K with the 5040UB. The upscaled 1080P is very nearly as good as the 4K downscaled with e-shift.
I have a roku coming tonight from the BF sales too. I'll try the roku and see how it looks compared to the firestick and HTPC.
juggling streamers -- not fun. I thought Apple TV was the silver bullet - but now I hear it doesn't have Atmos on Mandolorian either?
we should pick a series that we can better showcase our theaters with? No Atmos, 720p quality streaming, Disney's dynamic less audio,