Originally Posted by jedimastergrant
Good to know about the black levels. My theater has really great light control and I can appreciate the extra picture quality the jvc brings to the table so it seems a shame not to take advantage of that.
I am pretty bummed about the hdr though. I am coming to the same conclusion as you in my interest to just strip it out of the signal altogether. Disappointing considering what you pay for one of these things and flat panels costing a fraction offer good hdr. Just no way around it I guess.
Remains to be seen if I feel stripping the hdr will represent an overall upgrade to the image. So I am really interested in what you come up with.
The Integral essentially strips the HDR while still maintaining the BT2020 color space which is where the best improvements over standard 1080P/Rec709 color space can really be seen. A few guys have calibrated to get the PJ close to good with HDR still in, but it requires a lot more work, high lamp mode, and a significant jump in the black floor. By taking out HDR, you get to retain that excellent black floor of the JVC, maintain the extremely high contrast ratio (that is also lost in the process with HDR), and get the richer colors of BT2020. I say all this without experience though. I tried everything I possibly could to get the integral to work with my panny player last night and couldn't get it to pass jack squat to the PJ. All other sources worked fine, so I just don't get it but will continue to troubleshoot.
Originally Posted by carp
It has a 12 thingamajiggy in it and it needs 18 for HDR to work on any source except for 4K disk players.
Are you saying the blacks are better on the rs500 or the ls10k?
the rs500 (or other JVCs for that matter) have better blacks. It is what they are known best for. I am saying that however with a very important caveat:
While the JVC clearly wins in contrast ratio, brightness, and black level, in ALL other aspects I felt like the epson was a better machine. Well what else is there other than those things you ask? The epson IMO clearly won out on color uniformity, image stability, motion (panning and frame interpolation), and minus just needing a bit more brightness, I actually liked 3d better on it with the 120hz rate glasses.
I almost went for the 5040 carp, but I was approached with a good deal on the JVC and wanted to at least check it out