It was really great meeting everyone at KC! This was my first GTG, so I was able to meet a lot of folks I've known for years on AVS. Good to put faces to the names.
A big thanks to all the hosts! All of your rooms were some of the nicest I've been to. You all should be very proud of what you've done with your HT...very impressed. I also appreciate you guys letting me grab your Tactile Response...hopefully it will help you as you continue to optimize your HTs.
Special thanks to
for coordinating this all. I know this is a monumental effort, and it went without a hitch. Great places and parties by
! Much appreciated guys, great way to start and end this trip for me.
Also thanks to
for the FANTASTIC KC BBQ! Wow, some of the best I've had...IMO, much better than KC Joe's.
Appreciate the room and board as well sir. You certainly go all in with the thing you're interested in...very cool.
Finally, special thanks to
. Appreciate you dragging me from the airport, all over KC, and back! Great company along the way.
Below are some of my highlights for each Host and also their Tactile Response and Frequency Responses. Based upon what I experienced from a TR perspective at this GTG, below is my subjective
view of what a solid baseline TR level should be. More than that could be better or worse depending on your preference (more = better in my case
0-50hz = between 1e-05 and 1e-04
50-100hz = between 1e-06 and 1e-05
I loved the design of your HT. The brick wall in the back made the room for me. The artwork in the back added to your room's uniqueness. Nice work. I didn't really have a good chance to truly demo your setup, but I liked what I heard.
Apologize for not being able to grab your TR. It was tough to do given that everyone was there...if you still want it, PM and I will walk you through it.
Awesome rear projection! Never seen that before...way cool! Even without Atmos, I thought your surrounds were one of my favorites in the group. Great detail...the Atmos clips felt like there were speakers over my head...they were that detailed!
Unfortunately, I didn't have the 2lb bag of sugar when I took your TR...so your TR isn't really comparable to others. If I had it, it would have definitely reduced that peak between 15hz and 30hz, and you would have had more of a flat curve.
Luke and I were pretty much arriving a 1/2 hour late to each demo because we were taking TR and FR measurements. I would have loved to spend more time at your place.
You have a seriously impressive setup! Lot of pressurization...lots. When I was standing in the back of the room, I kept checking behind me to see if there were subs on the ground...my pant legs kept flapping and was wondering how the hell they were doing that!
You had great TR...both from a LF/ULF standpoint as well as midbass. Definitely top 3 from an overall TR standpoint and your response confirms that. My demo scene was brave, and it was very visceral!
Some of the best TR extension of the entire group. It's DIFFICULT to get flat TR below 10hz, and you got great extension to 8hz or so. There's literally only a handful of folks I've seen with this type of extension...and even less if you consider this was all SUB powered; no transducers...
Group B didn't get a fair demo I don't believe of what your system is capable of, but fortunately I did the night before....
Also, because it was a hybrid lunch time thing, we weren't able to grab and FR.
Crazy TR even at low volumes with that suspended floor, Ghorn, HS24 combo! The Ghorns were super stealth, and I kept asking myself "how is this TR possible...these things are in the ceiling!". You have very flat TR and great TR extension to about 12hz or so. The TR felt super natural because of those floors. Moving the 24 right behind the LP would have probably got you in the single digits.
I really, really liked your setup. Very balanced with great TR...probably one of my favorite midbass TR rooms at the GTG. Also, really loved your surround setup...also one of my favorites. You ran some of the scenes hot...but I enjoyed it! High kick in the chest factor! Your hidden side room was also very cool...
You had solid TR extension to around 17hz or so...which makes sense give that's where your JTR Caps start to roll off. You can see how your midbass TR (50-100hz) is elevated and flatter relative to your 0-50hz TR. Others like Archaea were more sloped from 0-100hz. I think this was one of the reasons why your midbass TR was more pronounced.
and grant looked into this more, and it looks as though the responses above were only for the 212HTs...
Beautiful room...and my favorite picture of the GTG. Wow, the picture quality was lifelike...looked like an huge OLED screen!
Loved your soundproofing too! Wish I did that from the beginning!
I thought your demo was very articulate. I felt your TR was lighter than others I had demo'd. This is probably a good thing when going for articulation. I'm not sure if there was something going on with the OS's at that time, but when Luke and I took the measurements, the results were odd. It confirmed that your TR was lower than others, but I wouldn't have predicted the FR and TR we gathered. As Luke mentioned, perhaps your speakers were set to large? In any case, still an impressive overall HT experience.
The shirts were awesome! Great design. Thank you sir...
Your demo presentation of the clips were my favorite. I loved how you put everything together and had your own take of the clips with the short intro to each. That was super cool. Also, your speakers aren't the typical popular brands these days, but let me assure you they gave up nothing to the others. I thought they sounded great and had all the dynamics.
Luke and I were old school with the FR tones...brought a CD. Chirpie didn't have a way to play a CD so we couldn't get an FR.
You had some solid TR...when I found out that you only had one ported SVS 12in sub in your room, I about fell over! How in the hell that little sub creates that much TR amazes me...but definitely confirmed by the measurements we took. You have a great TR room for that sub to produce what it did! So impressed...I kept telling other how shocked I was...
I really like the layout of your room. You turned a multipurpose basement, and created a dedicated theater space that looked the part of a high end theater. I really like the design from the curtains, to the matching acoustic panels, theater rope, etc. Great looking room sir... Great dynamics and detail with the JTRs obviously...and great surrounds. Oh, and the electrostats were awesome as well.
Your TR was solid, and definitely had more in the rear row (MLP location) compared to the front row. I believe the lumpiness in your FR below 18hz was probably phase related; mixing ported and sealed...but the good news as that the phase issues likely created the strong TR you got between 10hz and 20hz. As far as FR goes, I don't think this was by design (as I know you mentioned something during the demo) but you're running your bass pretty hot from 50hz and below.
Last stop of the day...and it was one to remember. You had an awesome theater...really liked what you did with the black ceiling, etc. Very nice looking theater!
I was fortunate to stay later with carp, luke, and archaea...this was one of the highlights of the weekend. We got to do a lot of AB testing with Crowsons on/off, nearfield on/off, etc. Great info...and surprising (will create a separate post on that later).
The demo of the day for me though was the John Wick at your theater...I probably watched that 10 times after the group left. It was the most visceral experience I've had in a home theater
! I reclined the chair back (thank you archaea) so that it was basically touching the nearfield sub, and let the John Wick scene loose. It was so visceral that I found myself squinting with each gun shot! It was freakin' awesome! Not sure if I could watch an entire move like that, but for demo purposes, it's one to remember!
As you can see by your TR, you had one of the strongest of the group. You had the lowest extension in TR, to about 7hz...that is DIFFICULT to do. I also took TR measurements from the rear row....and you still had that single digit TR extension!
You have a great TR room...and also probably the best PR
(Pressure Response) as well. I was standing in the back of the room at times, and my hair would be moving! What??? Absolute craziness...congrats buddy.
Again, great GTG and look forward to the next one!