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Wow. That is a steal. Somebody take him up on that!
I would like to but my wife would kill me as I already have a 10x10 climate controlled storage unit that contains my excess gear. I prefer to go through life without getting castrated with a spoon. Hehe.
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See you guys 3:00 on Sunday. I will send an email out tomorrow night.
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Email sent...let me know if you don't get it.
Thanks for allowing us to come check out your amazing theater today. Very impressive.

I went out and bought the Metallica blu ray tonight. That song One, just an amazing display. After seeing your amazing theater, I actually still enjoy my super cheap theater. My speakers leave a little to be desired, as does my seating. But overall I'm still pretty happy. Hopefully my next theater will bridge the gap between what I have now and what you have a little.

/edit Pics are not amazing, they were taken with my cell phone, without pausing the movie. lol



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A big thanks to Dave for opening up his theater. A very, very impressive setup. Those horns opened up sounded wonderful. Reminded me a lot of the Klipsch setup I had previously (except better). The live concert material really came alive. The bass response was exceptionally tight. You can really tell how much thought went into that setup.


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The mini-meet! Nice to be able to put it together so quickly and smoothly. What live concert material did you demo? Metallica and...?

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The mini-meet! Nice to be able to put it together so quickly and smoothly. What live concert material did you demo? Metallica and...?
Drum solo from the Cream Albert Hall concert (I need to pick that one up). I think that was it (feels like I am forgetting one though). Couple of 2ch tracks as well.

Horns have their own distinct sound and I've always found them to do very well with live concerts. I think it's because the arrays at concerts are almost always horns. So you equate that sound with that type of venue. The Klipsch's I had from the 90's sounded similar, but were more rolled off on top. The JTR's don't have that problem and manage the highs very deftly. At the levels they were playing (which was pretty darn loud) they still didn't cross the line over into harsh territory. One of the reasons I steered away from Klipsch when I finally decided to replace my old setup was that most of the consumer line I could audition suffered from being very thin and harsh. Supposedly their audiophile lineup alleviates that, but I couldn't find anywhere to audition them.


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Drum solo from the Cream Albert Hall concert (I need to pick that one up). I think that was it (feels like I am forgetting one though). Couple of 2ch tracks as well.
Are you talking about the one in this video?

I know that I will get some flak for this, but I have never been overly impressed with that solo. Most of the time he is just stomping his right and left feet to quarter notes, and playing whatever his arms flail around to. I've heard Ginger play better solos that that one, and not just when he was younger, so maybe you are talking about a different solo. That was just the first Google hit that came back. I've been playing drums and percussion for over 32 years, I've been around some great drummers. Many of which far exceed my talent. I've listened to and watched many more thanks to YouTube and convert videos. I've seen people that can just play very fast, and while that can be very technical, it isn't musical. I've heard people play very enjoyable pieces, but they lacked "pizzaz" that often comes from a little speed. Am I at a professional level today? No. Have I played trap set professionally for a few rock, jazz, and even big band groups? Yes. That seems like a lifetime ago though. I am always on the lookout for music pieces that have quality drum solos in them. That is something that I always enjoy.
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Are you talking about the one in this video?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Gze0PxDKgQ

I know that I will get some flak for this, but I have never been overly impressed with that solo. Most of the time he is just stomping his right and left feet to quarter notes, and playing whatever his arms flail around to.
Yes, that is the solo. I use the last 3-4 minutes for my demo's and I think David does the same. We have the Blu-ray version. It is chosen for the dynamics of the recording and for the the way the bass is mixed in the main channels, but I like the song a lot, too.
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Are you talking about the one in this video?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Gze0PxDKgQ

I know that I will get some flak for this, but I have never been overly impressed with that solo. Most of the time he is just stomping his right and left feet to quarter notes, and playing whatever his arms flail around to. I've heard Ginger play better solos that that one, and not just when he was younger, so maybe you are talking about a different solo. That was just the first Google hit that came back. I've been playing drums and percussion for over 32 years, I've been around some great drummers. Many of which far exceed my talent. I've listened to and watched many more thanks to YouTube and convert videos. I've seen people that can just play very fast, and while that can be very technical, it isn't musical. I've heard people play very enjoyable pieces, but they lacked "pizzaz" that often comes from a little speed. Am I at a professional level today? No. Have I played trap set professionally for a few rock, jazz, and even big band groups? Yes. That seems like a lifetime ago though. I am always on the lookout for music pieces that have quality drum solos in them. That is something that I always enjoy.
That looks like it. I'm sure as DesertDome said the dynamics were the reason Dave choose it. It really showcased how ridiculously tight the bass is in his setup. Drum wise it's hard to beat Neil Peart whom I've seen live a few times. The Police: Certifiable Blu Ray has a really nice percussive showcase for "Wrapped Around Your Finger". Not fast, but really interesting choices by Copeland. I made Slarity sit through it when he visited. He'd never heard The Police that young whipper-snapper.

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Not fast, but really interesting choices by Copeland. I made Slarity sit through it when he visited. He'd never heard The Police that young whipper-snapper.
Face palm.

The bands we listened to in high school and college (like the Police) are to kids now what the The Beatles were to us back then. Lord.

Still, never heard of Sting or The Police? These kids... I tell ya!

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Face palm.

The bands we listened to in high school and college (like the Police) are to kids now what the The Beatles were to us back then. Lord.

Still, never heard of Sting or The Police? These kids... I tell ya!

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My older brother made sure I got exposed to a wide variety of music so I was no stranger to The Beatles. If he hadn't I'm sure it would have been something I picked up later. But yeah it does make one feel pretty ancient

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So, I haven't updated my iRule app on my Sony tablet for quite some time - not since shortly after our CR meet this Spring.

I attempted to update the app and noticed that the app seemed to uninstall and reinstall a new copy. It seemed weird but I didn't think too much of it as all of my devices were there. But, all of my connections from the devices to my network are gone. I'm quite cranky because I have to assume that I did something wrong. This is particularly disappointing because I considered it more than a small achievement to add the devices and get everything connected and functioning.

After taking some time to recover from this stout, knee buckling, body blow, I will be digging through my notes looking for all of that network settings schtuff...after a visit to the iRule forum...ugh...now back to your regularly scheduled programming.

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So, I haven't updated my iRule app on my Sony tablet for quite some time - not since shortly after our CR meet this Spring.

I attempted to update the app and noticed that the app seemed to uninstall and reinstall a new copy. It seemed weird but I didn't think too much of it as all of my devices were there. But, all of my connections from the devices to my network are gone. I'm quite cranky because I have to assume that I did something wrong. This is particularly disappointing because I considered it more than a small achievement to add the devices and get everything connected and functioning.

After taking some time to recover from this stout, knee buckling, body blow, I will be digging through my notes looking for all of that network settings schtuff...after a visit to the iRule forum...ugh...now back to your regularly scheduled programming.
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Thanks Darren. I would be very interested in saving the settings.
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Don't know if I will get on here again before the holiday's hit so I wanted to wish every one a very happy holiday season. I hope you get to spend it with loved ones and you get those new goodies you asked Santa for!
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Technology is great KJLewie... when it works.

Happy holidays to all!

I'm looking forward to some relaxation in the basement over the long holiday weekend. With The Hobbit films wrapping up, it may be time to dust off the LotR EE Blu Rays. Still need to spin up Guardians, but I think that will be this weekend.

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Appreciate you guys coming over last weekend...always great to get guys over that can talk audio/video.
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Happy Holidays everyone.

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Merry Christmas to all and to all a good night!

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Santa was very good to me. He delivered all of the bits for me to build an expandable NAS!!! BOOM!!! A mede8er player, synology NAS, WD hard drives and a Samsung BD writer. I'm off to put everything together and flip the switch. I may start a build thread for this as it will likely be more of a project than I image.

I hope everyone is enjoying this day.
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Congrats Kjlewie. I love my Synology NAS drives. Santa brought me outdoor speakers.
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Thanks dlbeck. What kind of speakers did you get?

The NAS is as cool as expected and more. I've ripped and backed up only about half a dozen BDs so far. The Mede8er is very nice. The Samsung drive reads at a max of 2x so ripping takes a bit longer than I expected but everything works well. I'm going to look for a faster drive though...

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Santa gave me the Def Tech AW6500's for the deck. Now just need to run speaker wire from the equipment room to the deck.
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The past few days building the NAS have been a blast. I am loving this! With some pointers from Darren and help from my son, this is were we are currently:




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Very cool! Are you using a device like Darren's to access the files? It's awesome having all of that at your fingertips.

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I'm really running out of patience. My theater has some issues that are starting to bother me more and more but I don't want to do anything about it now since we are going to move to a new house (hopefully bigger theater) in the summer.

I have a dust blob on my Epson HC6100! You can only see it on very dark, almost black scenes. Generally when I first turn the projector on is when I notice it the most.

My kids somehow put streaks on my screen. This is the opposite of the dust blob, you can only see it on very bright scenes. Like if the sky in a scene dips low enough to where the smudges are you can see them. I tried cleaning the screen with warm water and dish soap, it didn't do anything at all. I'm thinking about trying a stronger cleaner to see if its marks that can come off, or it might just be stretches in the screen or something.

I've been having issues with my Infinity sub for quite some time. I've noticed recently it seems to work more often than not in blu ray movies played either on the BD player or the Xbox One, especially if I unplug it and plug it back in. It doesn't seem to work on any other sources (incredibly annoying trying to listen to Pandora at a loud volume). So now I'm starting to wonder if the sub is really going bad, or if it's some switching problem with my Denon AVR. I guess it's going bad regardless because when it does work, it rattles on certain notes and doesn't sound as good as it use to.

All of these are gripes I've had for a while. Next summer when we move I will be working on a new theater room, with all new gear. I am looking into getting a new projector (Epson 5030ub, Sony HW55ES, JVC X35) and probably new speakers (SVS Prime, Pioneer Elite, GoldenEars Triton Seven). These won't happen until after the new house comes though. Of course these may be delayed depending on how much work (read: money) the new room will require.

Anyways, sorry to vent, that's pretty much all this post is. Me getting impatient and wanting new gear but now would be the absolute worse time to buy something new without knowing what my next theater will bring.
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It's ALWAYS something. If the screen is stained and cleaning it doesn't work, I have heard of people rolling paint onto the entire screen to get by. They usually use the same mixtures people paint on the wall (Behr silverscreen, etc). Not ideal, but better than living with discoloration.

Is your sub issue tied to 2ch material? It sounds like it might be from your description. I had a friend with a similar issue when DD and DTS 5.1 first hit. He had the crossovers set to low on his speakers. When he was listening to 5.1 the problem wasn't noticed because the dedicated .1 channel fed the sub. On 2ch material the processor would send only material below the crossover of the L/R to the sub which was essentially nothing. Otherwise make sure the Denon is not defaulting to a "pure" or "direct" mode. That would not output anything to the sub unless there is a sub channel in the source. Probably not your issue, but thought I would throw it out there. Sometimes it's easy to overlook a simple config problem(my Integra will sometimes default to direct on certain sources).

Speaker wise I would add Paradigm, B&W 600's, and NHT to the mix (I think NHT is building good stuff again). I got to listen to the Golden Ears on the CR crawl and they weren't my cup of tea. The highs seemed rolled off some and the midrange seemed uneven. Not bad speakers at all, I just think there are better ones out there in that price range. Still I would give them a listen in case they are your cup of tea . With your reaction to Dave's speakers I think you may really like the Paradigm's. They have some of that alive forward sound of his horns with a generally flat response. Great Rock speakers and with a good sub I would imagine they would be great for hip-hop (old man shudder). If you ever want to do a speaker listen some weekend let me know. Audio Labs and Audio Video Logic are both good about letting you sit down and play with the units.
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Slarity, I know of a place that will swing you an amazing deal if and when you buy new gear. They are also very good about letting you demo stuff

Paradigm speakers have always been my best value for speakers. There are better brands out there but Paradigm seems to be the best value. As for the projectors you mentioned, I personally would recommend staying away from the Sony 55ES. For that money, there are better projectors out there. The Epson, well. Epson is coming along but they still make projectors that are disposable first to increase profits and try to make up for it with some great customer service. I'd suggest quality over quantity if your are in the price range. For the same prices, I would STRONGLY suggest an JVC RS-49 (pretty much the same at the x35).

P.S. Kimball is running the same setup as me. NAS, media player... the works.

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I was in a bit of a rush before so my post was lacking some content and reasoning.... sorry.

Projectors
If you have a light controlled room the JVC RS49 or X35 in my opinion blows away the quality Sony 55ES. Unless you need high lumen output, the JVS is a smart choice. Sony's entry level projectors aren't anything special at their price point. It's not until you get into their higher end projectors (like Kimball's 600ES) where a Sony projectors shines (pun intended). I've seen two rooms with the Sony 55ES and I just don't care for them. That is my opinion. I find the picture lacks smooth action and unless you spend good money for a calibration, it is outperformed by less expensive models out of the box.

If you need a light canon, the Epson 6030UB is your ticket and has as good of a picture and out of the box performance at that price point of the Sony. The reason I normally steer a little clear of Epson is because they make things a bit on the cheap side. If you get a quality Epson unit, you are safe. If you get a lemon, it's a lot of running around and returning (shipping) the projector. Epson will send you a projector (with credit card on file) before you send in the defective unit and that is how they get such high marks for customer service. But it's still a hassle and I think speaks to the fact instead of making quality, they try to 'service' quality into the product. Then those defective units turn into refurb Epson projectors online and drives the resale value of Epson projectors down. If you are a golfer, I equate it to TaylorMade and their releasing 4 drivers a year. It helps keep initial costs down, but you find yourself with a saturated used market and worthless clubs the day after you buy them.

Speakers
I have felt for years Paradigm offers the best value for commercial speakers. They have several different models and lines to choose from and they should match most any budget. GoldenEar speakers are also strong performers. They do take a while to break in though. The pair I had as a demo in my basement last spring had about 20 hours break-in on them, and they really didn't open up until a week later. I also feel the GoldenEars Triton lineup is great if you don't have external amps. Even the smallest of AVR amps have ease driving two midrange and a tweeter since the woofers are self powered. Just keep that fact in mind when building your room... cabling and electrical outlets need to be planned depending how you want to hook them up.

When you do go to buy, keep me informed or simply call Kent up at Hawkeye Audio in Cedar Falls. He is always willing to extend the 'friends and family' discount to us Iowa HT members. He actually saved me several hundred dollars this past weekend on a small purchase and helped another guy save several thousand over the local AV store the week.... Which I owe Kimball a huge "thank you" too for letting us crash his place to show off his Black Diamond screen. Thanks buddy!!!! Kent and I owe you!
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