Originally Posted by jeahrens
That's odd. My personal experience is that B&W is more laid back in the highs and that seems be the general consensus from everything I've read. Everyone hears a little differently and has different preferences, but piercing is not an adjective I hear in concert with the B&W's. Smooth, laid back and warm are usually what people attribute to them.
As I said in another post, I wasn't wowed by the Golden Ears. They seemed somewhat lifeless and rolled off in the high end. Not a bad speaker certainly. But they would not be for me.
This is almost exactly my opinion on the B&Ws. They were very nice but I thought the highs in the Paradigms were much brighter and detailed. The biggest thing I liked about the B&Ws was the imaging. Listening to just 2 speakers it really sounded like the music was coming from the center.
Nathan at AVL also let us demo the B&W 800s as well. I would say for $24k a pair of speakers they were obviously incredibly nice. Music sounded so real, like you were in a 1on1 concert with the artist.
Originally Posted by jeahrens
The best advice I can give you on trying to evaluate speakers that aren't side by side is to make notes on what you're hearing that you like. I took my own music and selected passages that I've heard a million times. I tried finding things that stressed different parts of the speaker.
If you like multichannel audio for more than the latest action blockbuster, then how the speakers integrate as a whole set is really important. That was another area where the speakers I choose did better than the immediate competition. The soundstage front to rear and side to side was very transparent. But that's something that you may or may not put a lot of value in.
I had a feeling you would dig the Paradigms. They are really good speakers and do justice to about any material you throw at them.
I really enjoyed the paradigms. Well the cheaper monitor series up to the Studio 60s. With the top end Paradigms I heard, the tweeter was too pronounced and piercing. I really didn't like the sound at all. But at $1300 a speaker the Studio 60s were very impressive.
I wouldn't mind bringing Bryce over and checking out yours again sometime if possible. It seems I've learned a lot about speakers recently and there are details that I've never noticed before. We listened to that song One by Metallica at audio labs, the same one Beck played on his system. The biggest detail I can hear is the strumming of the guitar. Actually sounds like his fingers are running up and down the strings. I tried the Metallica BD again on my infinity system, and those details just are not there. Going to try it again on Bryce's pioneers just to see if its there.
Originally Posted by ZLTFUL
I would like to say it was just me but even my wife who thinks everything sounds the same agreed with me. Although, her exact words were "They sound sort of 'bitter' to me."
I will readily admit that I am sort of biased towards most hard dome tweeters or metalized tweeters. But I don't think this was the case.
But the great thing about this hobby and this industry is that there are options to please everyone. And I won't begrudge anyone for liking something that I don't.
Bear in mind that the speakers I have had the longest have a radial ring tweeter which tend to be almost notoriously warm sounding so it may just be that I have grown so accustomed to that warm top end that anything else sounds overly *insert some other sound signature here*.
Either way, I think that virtually anything can be made to sound decent if it has been correctly matched with the other gear. And none of my observations were to the point of they sounded bad...just different.
I was pretty much the same way until recently. As noted above I've started picking out details from speakers that I just simply can't hear from other speakers.
I'm still not disappointed with my Infinity's even after hearing some absolutely amazing speakers. I've had them for almost 12 years, on 3 different AVRs, and will soon have a new and hopefully bigger theater room with a bigger budget to work with. So it's about time to say goodbye to the Infinitys.
I found a house that was seriously almost perfect this weekend. Only two real problems with it. 1: I'm not ready to move yet, I'm waiting for the weather to get nicer to finish up some things on my house before we can sell our current house. 2: It was extremely far west in Urbandale. Like to the point it would be quiet a drive for me to get to work. It was quiet an amazing house though. The basement was unfinished, but I had a great vision of it being finished. It would have had a nice play room for the kids right when you got down the stairs, have a 5th bedroom with egress window, the theater room was nice and large (guessing 16x26 or so with a really high ceiling where the screen would be), and a bathroom off the theater.