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I have the itch.... probably going to sell my 5020ub and move to either the 5040ub or the jvc rs400.... damn hobby.
If you do get a new projector, let us know as I'm sure many people around would like to see these in person.......by many people I mean me
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After seeing @dlbeck 's RS500, I am smitten with the RS400. That will very likely be my projector.

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Yeah, nothing against the Epson, but after seeing Dave's RS500 I'm having a hard time seeing how the RS400 wouldn't be a better pick. The black level and light output are amazing. I thought it was plenty sharp too.

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After seeing dlbeck's RS500, I am smitten with the RS400. That will very likely be my projector.
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Yeah, nothing against the Epson, but after seeing Dave's RS500 I'm having a hard time seeing how the RS400 wouldn't be a better pick. The black level and light output are amazing. I thought it was plenty sharp too.
The black level and contrast ratio of the RS500 are much better than the RS400. However, the RS400 is still better than most other projectors out there - especially in its price range.

This thread has some discussion: https://www.avsforum.com/forum/24-dig...0u-rs500u.html

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Yeah, nothing against the Epson, but after seeing Dave's RS500 I'm having a hard time seeing how the RS400 wouldn't be a better pick. The black level and light output are amazing. I thought it was plenty sharp too.
I must say that I'm continually impressed by the RS500. When the image fades to black there is literally almost no light in the theater. I can put my hand in front of my face and not see it. Love the blacks.
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I know with prices being equal I would pick the JVC all day every day. jeahrens JVC has always impressed me and Beck's just increased my respect for the brand.


I kind of feel bad. About 2 years ago I sold my Epson 6100 to a buddy, last night he called and said it blew up. He smelled plastic burning, said he took it apart and it's toast. So for under $2k what projector would you pick? He's leaning towards getting a 5030UB. I'm tempted to steer him towards the Sony HW40ES.


I feel Epson bulbs maximum life is nowhere near the usable life. I replaced the 6100 bulb at 2100 hours because it was too dim for my liking. My 9500UB is at 1700 hours now, still looking good but I'm expecting above 2k for it to get dim again. Luckily it came with a spare bulb so I'm ready when needed.
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So for under $2k what projector would you pick? He's leaning towards getting a 5030UB. I'm tempted to steer him towards the Sony HW40ES.

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Yeah, nothing against the Epson, but after seeing Dave's RS500 I'm having a hard time seeing how the RS400 wouldn't be a better pick. The black level and light output are amazing. I thought it was plenty sharp too.
When we watched TFA at the Savoy, I thought the projector had switched off when the screen went to black at the start. It was that black. Seriously impressed with that.
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So for under $2k what projector would you pick? He's leaning towards getting a 5030UB. I'm tempted to steer him towards the Sony HW40ES.
Like 12B4A suggested, a used 2014 model JVC can be a good buy. The Panasonic PT-AE8000u is still available for under $2000. The lens memory is a nice feature. For a much cheaper projector, the Vivitek H1188 isn't too bad.

dlbeck's Sony HW55ES suffered from some of the same loss of contrast mentioned in https://www.avsforum.com/forum/24-dig...4k-panels.html.

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Hmmm maybe I need to sell him my 9500UB and buy yours!

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Like 12B4A suggested, a used 2014 model JVC can be a good buy. The Panasonic PT-AE8000u is still available for under $2000. The lens memory is a nice feature. For a much cheaper projector, the Vivitek H1188 isn't too bad.

dlbeck's Sony HW55ES suffered from some of the same loss of contrast mentioned in https://www.avsforum.com/forum/24-dig...4k-panels.html.


I had the AE8000 for two weeks. I'll admit perhaps I got a bad unit but the 9500UB blew it out of the water when compared side by side on the same screen. Black levels, shadow detail, white levels, were all superior on the 9500UB. The only thing the AE8000 had was the color saturation was comparable, if not a little better in animated movies, and of course the lens memory was a nice feature if you use it.


Thanks for the link on the Sony's, I had not seen this yet. I'll give it a full read.


So far I'll lean towards him finding or buying the JVC or even mine and I'll buy the JVC lol.
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The black level and contrast ratio of the RS500 are much better than the RS400. However, the RS400 is still better than most other projectors out there - especially in its price range.

This thread has some discussion: https://www.avsforum.com/forum/24-dig...0u-rs500u.html
Good point. I was factoring in the RS400's performance when I typed that, but folks should know the 500 is better. Isn't the difference that the 400 lacks the DI of the 500 and just has a fixed adjustable iris (I think the 500 has both a DI and fixed iris)?

Still based on Art's statements it still sounds like the 400 would offer better blacks and from what I can see in the measurements much more calibrated light output. Both things I would sacrifice a bit of sharpness for.

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Hmmm maybe I need to sell him my 9500UB and buy yours!





I had the AE8000 for two weeks. I'll admit perhaps I got a bad unit but the 9500UB blew it out of the water when compared side by side on the same screen. Black levels, shadow detail, white levels, were all superior on the 9500UB. The only thing the AE8000 had was the color saturation was comparable, if not a little better in animated movies, and of course the lens memory was a nice feature if you use it.


Thanks for the link on the Sony's, I had not seen this yet. I'll give it a full read.


So far I'll lean towards him finding or buying the JVC or even mine and I'll buy the JVC lol.
The Sony HW40 and it's successor seem to be pretty solid. A used JVC is a great choice too. Although for future proofing it would be hard not to get into 4K at this point.

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Hmmm maybe I need to sell him my 9500UB and buy yours!
It's not mine, I'm just passing it along because JVCs are nice and an Iowan was selling it.

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I just helped a friend get their harmony companion remote working yesterday and was impressed with how well the ir/Bluetooth/wi-fi blaster worked. I just placed it on a shelf in the equipment rack and it worked for all devices, no problem at all. It was snappy and felt like there was no lag between button presses. Not to mention the hard remote feels great in hand.

I have had a harmony one for awhile now and while a nice remote, it is only ir. The benefit of a newer remote that uses rf to talk to the hub (instead of ir) would be nice. It also has an iOS/android app that we didn't even get into so I can't report how well that works. Crutchfield has it for $130 right now.......hmmm.
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Had a full theater last night and we watched 13 Hours. It was my second time watching it and again was impressed with the surround mix and well use of bass throughout. The movie keeps you on edge with it's dynamic music mix. Almost prefer it to Lone Soldier.
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Had a full theater last night and we watched 13 Hours. It was my second time watching it and again was impressed with the surround mix and well use of bass throughout. The movie keeps you on edge with it's dynamic music mix. Almost prefer it to Lone Soldier.
I absolutely prefer it over Lone Soldier. I'm one of the few who really didn't think that movie was great. 13 hours was amazing, really surprised me. I noticed the same as you, the sound effects were superb.
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Had a full theater last night and we watched 13 Hours. It was my second time watching it and again was impressed with the surround mix and well use of bass throughout. The movie keeps you on edge with it's dynamic music mix. Almost prefer it to Lone Soldier.

Great movie, but it made me very angry. Saddening and maddening. Great picture and sound, though. The scenes from the rooftop at night with the insurgents closing in and the firefight were crazy. Say what you want about digital cinema, but a lot of the night shots we see in films now just weren't possible before digital cameras.

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You're right ecrabb...disturbing storyline. The director did a heck of a job telling the story tho...including the audio mix...Superb!

Batman vs Superman on the other hand...horrible story. Love the audio mix but the story?? Had to watch it again last night with my nephew since he had never seen it. My attempt at steering him toward Oblivion didn't work.
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You're right ecrabb...disturbing storyline. The director did a heck of a job telling the story tho...including the audio mix...Superb!

Batman vs Superman on the other hand...horrible story. Love the audio mix but the story?? Had to watch it again last night with my nephew since he had never seen it. My attempt at steering him toward Oblivion didn't work.

I love Oblivion! Still haven't seen BvS.


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Hello, new poster in this thread. We moved to Bettendorf a couple of years ago and I recently started participating in AVSForums again as I shop for some new equipment for the basement. Anyone else in the Quad Cities?
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Welcome! I grew up in Davenport and still have some family/friends there. I don't think anyone posting on here is from that area, closest is Iowa City but I could be wrong. What equipment are you shopping for?
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Hello, new poster in this thread also. I work in Davenport IA, but live across the river in Illinois. Since I haven't been able to find an Area Home Theater Meet for Western Illinois, I guess I would call this one my home.

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Hello, new poster in this thread also. I work in Davenport IA, but live across the river in Illinois. Since I haven't been able to find an Area Home Theater Meet for Western Illinois, I guess I would call this one my home.
They're coming out of the woodwork, welcome to you also! It's a pretty active thread with some knowledgable folks on it. If you have any questions or want to share what you're doing, please do.
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Thank you both very much. I will be sure to ask any questions that may come up. Long time looker, just trying to piece my system together currently, when I'm not helping out in the projection booth of my local theater.

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Link to my FS thread for my Denon.
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If someone local wants it, shoot me an IM for a better deal if I don't have to ship. Would be willing to meet someone from the IC/CR/QC/Omaha areas.

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I had the AE8000 for two weeks. I'll admit perhaps I got a bad unit but the 9500UB blew it out of the water when compared side by side on the same screen. Black levels, shadow detail, white levels, were all superior on the 9500UB. The only thing the AE8000 had was the color saturation was comparable, if not a little better in animated movies, and of course the lens memory was a nice feature if you use it.


Thanks for the link on the Sony's, I had not seen this yet. I'll give it a full read.


So far I'll lean towards him finding or buying the JVC or even mine and I'll buy the JVC lol.
Quality control on the ae8000u seems to be a little lackluster. But after my first one had some convergence issues and I sent it back via RMA - I've been very pleased with my second one. Several of the guys in KC have it. stitch1, chldsplay, scrappydue, and I. We all don't have any intent to upgrade till 4K comes down to about $3k last I heard and from talking to each of the guys I think we are all equally pleased with the Panasonic projector. We all have scope projector screens too though - so the auto zoom and focus thing is most excellent and a feature we all hate to think about losing! You may have got a bad one, or the 9500UB may just be better. I've seen the Sony 40ES at a local members and liked it too. I don't think I've seen the 9500UB yet. I think it'd be fun to do a projector roundup sometime as a G2G topic.

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dlbeck, sounds like that projector you are running now is excellent. I look forward to seeing it sometime.
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