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So guys, my HT setup is all over the place right now and I need some advice please.
I have many parts of my system actively listed for sale, as I am trying to downgrade in certain areas(front mains) and upgrade in others(subs).
I am selling my RP-280F's and feel I can get away with a pair of RP-160's or RP-150's. Our living room is not very large.
Now to the bass!
I currently have a PSA XS15se in use and a Klipsch R-112SW just siting around.
I have had many chats with Tom from PSA and feel that the S1801 would be a good upgrade. I eventually would love to have two.
Question #1
- What options are there for a DIY subwoofer that is very similar to the s1801?
Question #2
- Should I instead sell the PSA/Klipsch subs and buy a 2nd one of either?
Question #3
- Should I trade in my PSA sub back to PSA for a $500 credit, sell the Klipsch sub, and then use that mony to just straight up by the S1801?


Any and all feedback is greatly appreciated!
1. What are your considerations for footprint and overall cabinet size? Budget? Do you want a DIY option or stick to OE?

2. Start with #1

3. What did you pay for the PSA sub you have? Retail is $1400. You can get a lot more output if you can or want to DIY. For example, the build I am working on is 4 large ported 18"s powered by an iNuke6000DSP and it is ~$800 less than a pair of the S1801's. You could also easily get into 4 sealed 18"s with DIYSG knock down enclosures for just over $2k. Lots of options.
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Hello,

I'm new to the area (just moved to JAX 10months ago). I've lurked around AVS forums for years now but I've never really participated. Today I was thinking that I wish there was GTG for JAX like I've read in other threads but then realized that I've never actually searched JAX GTG and thus found this thread.

Over the last 8 months I've put together a entry level home theater. I'd be interested in a GTG and learning from you guys as the next upgrade I've been looking at is building some DIYSG HTM-10's for LCR and then maybe DIY subs down the road.

Thanks for your time.
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1. What are your considerations for footprint and overall cabinet size? Budget? Do you want a DIY option or stick to OE?

2. Start with #1

3. What did you pay for the PSA sub you have? Retail is $1400. You can get a lot more output if you can or want to DIY. For example, the build I am working on is 4 large ported 18"s powered by an iNuke6000DSP and it is ~$800 less than a pair of the S1801's. You could also easily get into 4 sealed 18"s with DIYSG knock down enclosures for just over $2k. Lots of options.
Thanks for the reply @filtor1 !
4 x 18's would NOT pass the WAF. hah
I would be perfectly happy with 2 sealed 18's in each corner along the front wall. I am working up blueprints now. Basically want to DIY an enclosure that very closely mimics the PSA S1801, but instead have it down-firing. It also looks like lots can be saved by skipping the plate amp idea and going external amp. I'm still a little confused on how the amp connects to the sub and avr.....
I've attached the original blueprint verses what I have in mind.
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Thanks for the reply @filtor1 !
4 x 18's would NOT pass the WAF. hah
I would be perfectly happy with 2 sealed 18's in each corner along the front wall. I am working up blueprints now. Basically want to DIY an enclosure that very closely mimics the PSA S1801, but instead have it down-firing. It also looks like lots can be saved by skipping the plate amp idea and going external amp. I'm still a little confused on how the amp connects to the sub and avr.....
I've attached the original blueprint verses what I have in mind.
Check these out:

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/155-di...sub-build.html

Obviously you can finish the DIYSG enclosure to look any way you want to.

iNuke3000DSP https://www.parts-express.com/behrin...m_campaign=pla $280

Cost on cables will vary but will be under $100 (RCA/XLR and Neutrik)

SI 18 v2 http://stereointegrity.com/product/ht18-v2-subwoofer/ $160x2=$320

DIYSG sealed enclosure http://www.diysoundgroup.com/sealed-...flat-pack.html $115x2=$230

Finishing $100

$1030 for a formidable easy to assemble and finish system.
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Here is one for me. I found out that the 10' Nuetrik cables I am using are too short. I want to replace the ends with these https://www.parts-express.com/neutri...or-4p--092-192 to save space behind the enclosures. The Mini-Marty's I bought have the connector on the sides and these will make life easier for connecting those as well.

Should I order the ends and regular cables from Monoprice and replace the 6 ends I need to be 90's?

Is there a retailer that sells these right angle cables pre-made? I couldn't find one.

Unfortunately PE is out and won't get anymore till December. There are a few other retailers that have them in stock, but I will pay dearly for them.
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@chadsmith013 , I hear you on the want front. I too like to try and experiment with new and different equipment. This hobby is an addiction.

The measurement gear isn't expensive at all. I got everything I needed from PE for under $300 a few years ago and they sent me a free mic stand too.

@biliam1982 @chadsmith013 , I need to set aside a Saturday and bring my measurement gear so we can get a visualization of his house curve. It will take a couple hours, but will give some direction to correct any deficiencies.

Oh, and I will bring a couple speakers too.
@filtor1 .... yeah we need to work on something like that...would be fun.. since @Mattcc22 is slacking lately..lol..

and 300 bucks on measuring equipment? man thats alot of coin...but yeah we should do something soon..maybe one day @biliam1982 will get his stuff together and make that real GTG actually happen.

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Here is one for me. I found out that the 10' Nuetrik cables I am using are too short. I want to replace the ends with these https://www.parts-express.com/neutri...or-4p--092-192 to save space behind the enclosures. The Mini-Marty's I bought have the connector on the sides and these will make life easier for connecting those as well.

Should I order the ends and regular cables from Monoprice and replace the 6 ends I need to be 90's?

Is there a retailer that sells these right angle cables pre-made? I couldn't find one.

Unfortunately PE is out and won't get anymore till December. There are a few other retailers that have them in stock, but I will pay dearly for them.
For Neutrik cables you could call either Markertek or Have Inc to see if they will make one up - e.g. -
http://store.haveinc.com/t-cable-shop.aspx

Have not looked at the prior posts but Neutrik Speakon connectors are not that hard to do. I've made many of the cables for Rel subwoofers.
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@filtor1 .... yeah we need to work on something like that...would be fun.. since @Mattcc22 is slacking lately..lol..

and 300 bucks on measuring equipment?
Depends on what one wants to measure. I have an Audio Control one third octave RTA for many years. I've also used REW (Room EQ Wizard) a few times (need to start using it so I get more familiar with it as over the years I've become toocomfortable with the ease of use of the RTA putting it either between an amp and preamp or in a tape loop) which is a free program. I've used REW with my small music servers and the Parts Express mic (under $90 - https://www.parts-express.com/dayton...phone--390-808). I also have Audio Tools on my iPhone (and iPad) with the Parts Express mic (which is about $15 and can be used with Android too - https://www.parts-express.com/dayton...droid--390-810).
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Thanks @chadsmith013 for the introduction!
Hey guys, my name is Mike. I'm cute. And when it comes to boobs or butt, I'm an ass guy.
I look forward to learning lots!
welcome to the thread..you will fit in nicely here.

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So guys, my HT setup is all over the place right now and I need some advice please.
I have many parts of my system actively listed for sale, as I am trying to downgrade in certain areas(front mains) and upgrade in others(subs).
I am selling my RP-280F's and feel I can get away with a pair of RP-160's or RP-150's. Our living room is not very large.
Now to the bass!
I currently have a PSA XS15se in use and a Klipsch R-112SW just siting around.
I have had many chats with Tom from PSA and feel that the S1801 would be a good upgrade. I eventually would love to have two.
Question #1
- What options are there for a DIY subwoofer that is very similar to the s1801?
Question #2
- Should I instead sell the PSA/Klipsch subs and buy a 2nd one of either?
Question #3
- Should I trade in my PSA sub back to PSA for a $500 credit, sell the Klipsch sub, and then use that mony to just straight up by the S1801?


Any and all feedback is greatly appreciated!
my vote is for DIY...its such an incredible bargain...if you arent good with the woodworking, get 2 flat packs and 2 ultimax's from parts express or either 2 of the HT 18's from stereo integrity if you are on a tighter budget...and grab an Inuke Amp

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I couldn't help myself. I had to straighten out the front.
looks awesome Chris..I bet it sounds amazing..
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Hello,

I'm new to the area (just moved to JAX 10months ago). I've lurked around AVS forums for years now but I've never really participated. Today I was thinking that I wish there was GTG for JAX like I've read in other threads but then realized that I've never actually searched JAX GTG and thus found this thread.

Over the last 8 months I've put together a entry level home theater. I'd be interested in a GTG and learning from you guys as the next upgrade I've been looking at is building some DIYSG HTM-10's for LCR and then maybe DIY subs down the road.

Thanks for your time.
welcome to the Jax forum...the HTM's would be a great start.

we are working on doing a GTG @biliam1982 house in a short while..

we did a small GTG this weekend with Biliam and @todd1010 @Mattcc22 had a good time and got to listen to several DIY options...and Todd, your home was beautiful..your front landscaping was magazine worthy.

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Thanks for the reply @filtor1 !
4 x 18's would NOT pass the WAF. hah
I would be perfectly happy with 2 sealed 18's in each corner along the front wall. I am working up blueprints now. Basically want to DIY an enclosure that very closely mimics the PSA S1801, but instead have it down-firing. It also looks like lots can be saved by skipping the plate amp idea and going external amp. I'm still a little confused on how the amp connects to the sub and avr.....
I've attached the original blueprint verses what I have in mind.
thats some good looking blueprints..are you good at wood working?

if you are going sealed..the flatpacks from partsexpress or DIYSG I would strongly recommend, unless you are dead set with them facing down..but if they are facing down..you dont get to watch them move..lol..

and dont worry bout the amps..we can walk you thru that..its not as hard as one would think.
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Here is one for me. I found out that the 10' Nuetrik cables I am using are too short. I want to replace the ends with these https://www.parts-express.com/neutri...or-4p--092-192 to save space behind the enclosures. The Mini-Marty's I bought have the connector on the sides and these will make life easier for connecting those as well.

Should I order the ends and regular cables from Monoprice and replace the 6 ends I need to be 90's?

Is there a retailer that sells these right angle cables pre-made? I couldn't find one.

Unfortunately PE is out and won't get anymore till December. There are a few other retailers that have them in stock, but I will pay dearly for them.
filtor...i skipped those connectors on the sub box all together..I just bought the 25 foot connectors, cut them in half..used half to connect to the Inuke and then used the bare wire and standard wire terminals on the back of my subs..I wanted to keep it simple.
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Depends on what one wants to measure. I have an Audio Control one third octave RTA for many years. I've also used REW (Room EQ Wizard) a few times (need to start using it so I get more familiar with it as over the years I've become toocomfortable with the ease of use of the RTA putting it either between an amp and preamp or in a tape loop) which is a free program. I've used REW with my small music servers and the Parts Express mic (under $90 - https://www.parts-express.com/dayton...phone--390-808). I also have Audio Tools on my iPhone (and iPad) with the Parts Express mic (which is about $15 and can be used with Android too - https://www.parts-express.com/dayton...droid--390-810).
i know its worth it and needed to measure and get the results to make things sound better..im just cheap and dont want to spend 300 on it..LOL matt did come over once and use REW, but that was with my old speakers...we need to do it again sometime.

and need to get Filtor out to check out the system too..maybe we can do some Saturday coming out...i think matt will be at soccer practice.
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I'll summarize: @filtor1 Are the SI HT 18 v2's well regarded and how do they compare to Eminence subs?

@chadsmith013 I love it here so far! Ultimax vs HT18 v2 vs anything from Eminence? Would one inuke1000 be ok to drive a single 18? Is it a big deal that it does not have a DSP? I can get one used for $100. Thoughts on Gemini XGA-2000?


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I'll summarize: @filtor1 Are the SI HT 18 v2's well regarded and how do they compare to Eminence subs?

@chadsmith013 I love it here so far! Ultimax vs HT18 v2 vs anything from Eminence? Would one inuke1000 be ok to drive a single 18? Is it a big deal that it does not have a DSP? I can get one used for $100. Thoughts on Gemini XGA-2000?


THANKS!
Mike..im actually partial to the Dayton HO 18's...I have 2 of them..but the Ultimax's and the SI HT 18s are great subs too...id day SI HT>Dayton HO>Ultimax.

I would probably go with the Inuke DSP..just gives so many tuning options..of course thats not really my forte..im less on the technical side, but we have many in here who can help with the DSP. I wouldnt get the INuke 1000DSP...I would just go straight for the Inuke 3000 DSP..Leaves the option open to add a second sub later..and you will probably end up wanting to do that later..happens to all of us, then you will just end up having to sell the 1000 DSP. I did that with the 3000 DSP, then later i got the 6000 DSP. not sure on the Gemini.

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I'll summarize: @filtor1 Are the SI HT 18 v2's well regarded and how do they compare to Eminence subs?

@chadsmith013 I love it here so far! Ultimax vs HT18 v2 vs anything from Eminence? Would one inuke1000 be ok to drive a single 18? Is it a big deal that it does not have a DSP? I can get one used for $100. Thoughts on Gemini XGA-2000?


THANKS!
Mike..im actually partial to the Dayton HO 18's...I have 2 of them..but the Ultimax's and the SI HT 18s are great subs too...id day SI HT>Dayton HO>Ultimax.

I would probably go with the Inuke DSP..just gives so many tuning options..of course thats not really my forte..im less on the technical side, but we have many in here who can help with the DSP. I wouldnt get the INuke 1000DSP...I would just go straight for the Inuke 3000 DSP..Leaves the option open to add a second sub later..and you will probably end up wanting to do that later..happens to all of us, then you will just end up having to sell the 1000 DSP. I did that with the 3000 DSP, then later i got the 6000 DSP. not sure on the Gemini.
So you're saying the SI HT 18 is my best option? And it's the least expensive? I like.
Ok, I guess I'll stay away from the inuke1000. Just thought it would be fine to get things started.
I'm assuming the DSP plays an important role...
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So you're saying the SI HT 18 is my best option? And it's the least expensive? I like.
Ok, I guess I'll stay away from the inuke1000. Just thought it would be fine to get things started.
I'm assuming the DSP plays an important role...
2 SI HT's if you are on a budget.....but get you 2 of them and an Inuke 3000 DSP and you are set. The 1000 DSP would be a great start but you will end up selling it..LOL..

yeah the fact that these Inukes have the DSP built in is a major plus...its not too difficult to get dialed in..once you do, you generally dont have to mess with them after that...one warning though..the Inukes have loud fans..you can either do a fan mod or just live with the noise..some people have had good success with the Crown XLS amps...but those dont have DSP..I havent really experimented between having the DSP or just hooking up an amp without it...will leave that for Chris, Matt or William to answer.

also i beleive its like an 80 or so difference between the 1000 and the 3000DSP...and if u order thru sites like Sweetwater, you can call or email them and they will give you a better price.
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So you're saying the SI HT 18 is my best option? And it's the least expensive? I like.
Ok, I guess I'll stay away from the inuke1000. Just thought it would be fine to get things started.
I'm assuming the DSP plays an important role...
2 SI HT's if you are on a budget.....but get you 2 of them and an Inuke 3000 DSP and you are set. The 1000 DSP would be a great start but you will end up selling it..LOL..

yeah the fact that these Inukes have the DSP built in is a major plus...its not too difficult to get dialed in..once you do, you generally dont have to mess with them after that...one warning though..the Inukes have loud fans..you can either do a fan mod or just live with the noise..some people have had good success with the Crown XLS amps...but those dont have DSP..I havent really experimented between having the DSP or just hooking up an amp without it...will leave that for Chris, Matt or William to answer.
Well, I don't want to get the SI HT 18's and feel like I need to upgrade either. My goal is to mimic the PSA s1801 as closely as possible(within reason obviously). And I know they use Eminance drivers. But I love the look of the big rubber surrounds on the HT 18's.
I'll have to look into the fan mods, if they really are as loud as you say.
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thats some good looking blueprints..are you good at wood working?

if you are going sealed..the flatpacks from partsexpress or DIYSG I would strongly recommend, unless you are dead set with them facing down..but if they are facing down..you dont get to watch them move..lol..

and dont worry bout the amps..we can walk you thru that..its not as hard as one would think.
The DIYSG flat packs can be used down firing. Just add the appropriate feet.
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i know its worth it and needed to measure and get the results to make things sound better..im just cheap and dont want to spend 300 on it..LOL matt did come over once and use REW, but that was with my old speakers...we need to do it again sometime.

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I'll summarize: @filtor1 Are the SI HT 18 v2's well regarded and how do they compare to Eminence subs?

@chadsmith013 I love it here so far! Ultimax vs HT18 v2 vs anything from Eminence? Would one inuke1000 be ok to drive a single 18? Is it a big deal that it does not have a DSP? I can get one used for $100. Thoughts on Gemini XGA-2000?


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The SI 18" is a budget driver. I don't know enough about the exact Eminence driver in your current subs to say what would compare to them. I have a pair of UM 18"s right now and they are solid drivers. Guess who makes. them.

The iNuke1000 won't properly drive any of the current 18"s you are looking at. I run my pair off a single iNuke6000DSP. Spring for the DSP, you won't regret the added flexibility and control. I found my iNuke6000DSP on Amazon for $330 shipped.
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thats some good looking blueprints..are you good at wood working?

if you are going sealed..the flatpacks from partsexpress or DIYSG I would strongly recommend, unless you are dead set with them facing down..but if they are facing down..you dont get to watch them move..lol..

and dont worry bout the amps..we can walk you thru that..its not as hard as one would think.
The DIYSG flat packs can be used down firing. Just add the appropriate feet.
Nice! I messed around with my PSA xs15se yesterday just to see about certain parts. Looks like the rubber feet are from "Penn Elcom", but I can't figure out what the leg part/riser is? It feels like hard plastic and the rubber foot fits perfectly inside the rim of it.
Any idea's?
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filtor...i skipped those connectors on the sub box all together..I just bought the 25 foot connectors, cut them in half..used half to connect to the Inuke and then used the bare wire and standard wire terminals on the back of my subs..I wanted to keep it simple.
I already purchased all the connectors for the enclosures. I don't mind a few more $ to get the 90deg male ends and swapping them out. Just wanted to not waste a bunch of time if they can be purchased pre-built. I kept searching and it looks like I will just have to swap the ends out.
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I'll summarize: @filtor1 Are the SI HT 18 v2's well regarded and how do they compare to Eminence subs?

@chadsmith013 I love it here so far! Ultimax vs HT18 v2 vs anything from Eminence? Would one inuke1000 be ok to drive a single 18? Is it a big deal that it does not have a DSP? I can get one used for $100. Thoughts on Gemini XGA-2000?


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The SI 18" is a budget driver. I don't know enough about the exact Eminence driver in your current subs to say what would compare to them. I have a pair of UM 18"s right now and they are solid drivers. Guess who makes. them.

The iNuke1000 won't properly drive any of the current 18"s you are looking at. I run my pair off a single iNuke6000DSP. Spring for the DSP, you won't regret the added flexibility and control. I found my iNuke6000DSP on Amazon for $330 shipped.
Ok. The driver in my PSA is a "Eminence LAB15". So ideally I'd like to find a similar 18 inch driver.
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Nice! I messed around with my PSA xs15se yesterday just to see about certain parts. Looks like the rubber feet are from "Penn Elcom", but I can't figure out what the leg part/riser is? It feels like hard plastic and the rubber foot fits perfectly inside the rim of it.
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not sure about those..but I know SVS has some pretty similar @todd1010 recently bought some from them.

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Ok. The driver in my PSA is a "Eminence LAB15". So ideally I'd like to find a similar 18 inch driver.
to be honest..I think you would be pleased with any of the three we mentioned...HT, Ho or UM. Get a solid enclosure and the 3000 DSP and you will be pleased I think.
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