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Looks like the LED DLP's are k-a-p-u-t.

BIG time bummer....

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post #92 of 240 Old 01-08-2009, 04:04 PM
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looks like no Samsung DLPs in 2009. DLP looks DEAD from Samsung..
I thought Mitsubishi was gonna announce 2009 line of DLPs?
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I was just told that Samsung is still producing the 2008 model DLPs but will have no new models for 2009.
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I was just told that Samsung is still producing the 2008 model DLPs but will have no new models for 2009.

Called Samsung and they said the same thing, no new models but will still be for sale in 2009

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Called Samsung and they said the same thing, no new models but will still be for sale in 2009

This is fine by me. I'll pick up a 67 incher in Sept for $1500!
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"This is fine by me. I'll pick up a 67 incher in Sept for $1500!"

Hmmm....sounds about right.
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looks like no Samsung DLPs in 2009. DLP looks DEAD from Samsung..
I thought Mitsubishi was gonna announce 2009 line of DLPs?

Mitsubishi has their own show and doesn't show their line at CES. I believe their show is sometime in the spring. Maybe someone else remembers when it is.
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A roundtable panel on Thursday afternoon at CES was one of the show's briefer events so far, but we picked up some interesting tidbits from the forthright Samsung executives present. We have highlights of the stuff we would have loved to have heard during yesterday's big event, but better late than never:

- Ding, dong, the DLP is... Samsung is one of the last two companies to offer DLP televisions. (The other is Mitsubishi.) The Digital Light Processing technology was quite clever, using microscopic mirrors rapidly repositioning to create the image, but that battle was won by LCDs. But after hanging in there for years, Samsung is out, according to Senior Vice President SangHeung Shin, who told reporters that "We've already internally made the decision to drop the [DLP] line." Sets will most likely continue to be available for some time.

Available for some time? I'm buying in the next 3 weeks. I'll bet the price will be pretty consistant from now until their gone, within a hundred bucks or so. I'll bet they will be hard to find soon. Best Buy and CC in my area are out.

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Crud, I was hoping that they would keep improving the LED engine and eventually offer something closer to 80", I guess by the time I actually replace my Sammy DLP I'll have to go with something else. Now Mits has no real reason to get their laser sets to a reasonable price.

There's always LED DLP projectors, I guess.

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All because off all the 'airheads' that didn't like a big box in their Living Rooms so they could have some panel hung on a wall making it nonaccessible, able to be contaminated by heat and soot from a fireplace and eventally fall off the wall.

BTW, the major repair company in this area will NOT service a TV that is over a fireplace and possibly one hung on a wall anywhere!

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Then no one other than Mits (we will have to wait 4 months to see) is producing RPTV's anymore??

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Recording free OTA TV for 'time shifting' has been here since 1975. Will there be DVR's to do the same when ATSC3 obsoletes existing DVR's??
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Grab 'em while you can. Glad I gambled and bought mine when I did.

Ditto! Thinking of buying a 2nd as backup. By the time the 2nd one dies, maybe something as good as it will be available for a reasonable cost.
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BTW, the major repair company in this area will NOT service a TV that is over a fireplace and possibly one hung on a wall anywhere!

Lol, that is a poor company that will lose a whole lot of business.(on the wall)
Also, from what I see most people who hang over a fireplace do not ever use that fireplace.(if they do then they deserve an very early panel death)
Also, although I like DLP very much and would own one over any LCD, some "airheads" will tell you there is unmatched PQ in some plasmas and the depth doesn't really matter at all.
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some "airheads" will tell you there is unmatched PQ in some plasmas and the depth doesn't really matter at all.

Have you seen the KURO firsthand? I haven't but from the screen shots I've seen on this site it looks better than my 67".

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Lol, that is a poor company that will lose a whole lot of business.(on the wall)
Also, from what I see most people who hang over a fireplace do not ever use that fireplace.(if they do then they deserve an very early panel death)
Also, although I like DLP very much and would own one over any LCD, some "airheads" will tell you there is unmatched PQ in some plasmas and the depth doesn't really matter at all.

I agree(except IMO some LCDs are better than DLP). Other than price difference and picture size, a panel is a step up. Microdisplays used to be my thing but since I made the switch there's no going back. The frustrating thing about CES is that it seems like larger sized panels just aren't a priority thus leaving the gap which DLP has filled empty. Who cares about 103" and 150" demo units at CES when we're just now going to see a few 65" models.
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Have you seen the KURO firsthand? I haven't but from the screen shots I've seen on this site it looks better than my 67".

He owns last years Elite I believe. I have the 6020 and it's quite a step up over DLP. however, it's not cheap.
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There's always LED DLP projectors, I guess.

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My sister is planning on buying a 60"+ set this summer, hopefully these will still be available. Flat panels that size are just WAAAAYYYYY too expensive!!!!!!

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i'm going to have to make my choice between samsung led 67 inch dlp or bulb based mits 73 inch diamond(2008)
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The frustrating thing about CES is that it seems like larger sized panels just aren't a priority thus leaving the gap which DLP has filled empty. Who cares about 103" and 150" demo units at CES when we're just now going to see a few 65" models.


Couldn't agree more.
That's why for me, if I had to have bigger it would be nice to have DLP as an option.
Even more so if it had been incrementally improved each year.
I know that I wont be able to afford a 65"+ plasma for a long time.
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i'm going to have to make my choice between samsung led 67 inch dlp or bulb based mits 73 inch diamond(2008)

It's a good thing that is such an easy decision to make then!

Hint: bigger isn't always better
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i'm going to have to make my choice between samsung led 67 inch dlp or bulb based mits 73 inch diamond(2008)

The 73" Diamond is overpriced but pq is slightly better than the Samsung 67" IMO.

If this is the last year for new DLP RP hopefully by the time I'm in the market for a new TV there will be affordable options for 60" and larger screens.
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Couldn't agree more.
That's why for me, if I had to have bigger it would be nice to have DLP as an option.
Even more so if it had been incrementally improved each year.
I know that I wont be able to afford a 65"+ plasma for a long time.

I'm hoping 65" models will be in the price range of current 60" PDPs. We'll see I guess.
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If you're a DLP lover here's what to do:

Mitsubishi will probably come out with one last year of them.

Buy the best 73-inch Diamond one you can.

If you're leaving DLP and don't want to spend alot of money the largest Vizio plasma will be about the best you can do.

If you want to spend more a Samsung 63-inch plasma will be about the best you can do.

Plasmas larger than 65-inches will probably not happen until 2010.

If you want large size and cheap price my advice is to buy quickly!

Can you still get a lamp based 71 or or was it 72 inch Samsung DLP?

I own a 50-inch panasonic plasma--the picture is great--if I was buing one now I'd buy a 58-inch one--but that's too small.

I'd like to buy a 65-inch one but the price for a 65-inch plasma is just too steep and LCD looks like crap!

I'm afraid that big size and cheap price might be a part of the past.
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...I'm afraid that big size and cheap price might be a part of the past.

Hopefully just for a few years though. People probably thought the same thing when DLP/LCD RP started overtaking CRT RPTV but look at prices on DLP now. Although let's hope that it doesn't take OLED to overtake LCD/Plasma before this happens again.
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If you're a DLP lover here's what to do:

Mitsubishi will probably come out with one last year of them.

Buy the best 73-inch Diamond one you can.

If you're leaving DLP and don't want to spend alot of money the largest Vizio plasma will be about the best you can do.

If you want to spend more a Samsung 63-inch plasma will be about the best you can do.

Plasmas larger than 65-inches will probably not happen until 2010.

If you want large size and cheap price my advice is to buy quickly!

Can you still get a lamp based 71 or or was it 72 inch Samsung DLP?

I own a 50-inch panasonic plasma--the picture is great--if I was buing one now I'd buy a 58-inch one--but that's too small.

I'd like to buy a 65-inch one but the price for a 65-inch plasma is just too steep and LCD looks like crap!

I'm afraid that big size and cheap price might be a part of the past.


About five months ago, a salesman at a BB told me that Samsung was getting out of the DLP business. I took it with a grain of salt. The same salesman also told me that MITS was going to do one more year of bulb based dlp's.
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I think it will be quite awhile til tiny prototype never produced OLED is CHEAP in the 70-inch size market.

Say it gets here in two years which I doubt--what will Plasmas or LCDs cost then?

Are you going to tell me that OLED will cost less?

No chance!
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Damn, what a disappointment. I was waiting for the Sammy 65 LED price to come down. Can't gamble on that happening now.

Tommorrow I'm buying a Mitsu 65735 for $1188. Swore I'd never buy another Mitsu after my Diamond ws65909 died after 5 yrs.

But, at this price, and a Mack warranty for $120 I'm good for 4 yrs. Who knows what will be available 4 yrs down the road the way things are going.

Time will tell.
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