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post #61 of 4035 Old 05-14-2005, 12:25 PM
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Thanks, after looking at the actual shape of the TV, I think that i will be okay. Plus I get a little extra at the top by taking off the base or foot or whatever it's called
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If you are really concerned, call Samsung technical support and ask about the airflow route. I think air is taken in on the front of the set and vented out the sides/back. If this is the case, you will be OK.

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The 67's are available in my area as of today. (NW Ohio)

I'm hardly in a big city, so, if I have it, the rest of you that are interested in these: Head's up! FWIW.

Where at in NW Ohio? Toledo area?
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Where at in NW Ohio? Toledo area?

Just north of Dayton.

Great ISF Job by Chad B.
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Hope you go to the Dayton Hamfest!

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Recording free OTA TV for 'time shifting' has been here since 1975. Will there be DVR's to do the same when ATSC3 obsoletes existing DVR's??
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i was just curious as to where everyone is placing the center speaker. the 5674 had a part on the top of the TV where one could place a center speaker. however, the 50" dont seem to have that ability. i have seen those stands that kind of hook on top of the tv, but i am not really keen on that. i cant place it on my TV stand either, since it has a glass door and there is not enough room on the inside of it. cant place it on the floor either.

well i dont own one yet, but just wanted to know...

thanks to the owners for the reviews and pictures. please keep the pictures coming..
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Saw a new 5667 at Best Buy in SW MI today. It was next to the 4663 and below and in front of a Mitsubishi 55315 CRT RP. The 67 certainly had darker blacks and shadows, but expected to see more detail in the shadows and this didn't seem true. In a pan of a basketball arena ceiling, the 63 showed more detail in the shadows, but it was likely set brighter too. The 67 was very clear, compared to the 63 and the CRT. The CRT is certainly far cheaper, but appeared somewhat blurry or smeared next to the DLPs. Saw a Qualia at another shop down the street, it had excellant detail with HD, but not with SD. The viewing distance did matter with SD, you can be too close.

The 67 had better colors and more uniform lighting than the other two. Its colors did not appear strange or out of place. The picture mode was set to Dynamic. However, after seeing the Qualia, I am convinced I want to see the 1080p DLPs before I buy anything, even though I think the 67 is a definite improvement over previous units.
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Attached is a picture of the 5067 on the new TR46x3 stand

Setup: Comcast HD PVR via component. DVD via component
Tivi via composite...(just temp until I watch all taped shows, then will be removed)

Stand comments: The stand is wll made and matches great. However, the Tv is in no way attached to the stand and I get the feeling my 4 year olds could easily knowk it over. I have decided to put wire from the back crewes of the TV to the stand to form a tether/anchor. No issue with the TV going back as the stand has extra room

MY motorola DVR comes right to the edge of the stand with room in the back for the turn required by the stiff component wires

The HD pictures are great. I have seen very little if any differerence between the Cable box signal and the direct signal.

Qestions that i need ansered and will seach this forum for later: best way to hook up the cable box as it has numerous possible connections. based on the given connection, I need the best setup to the cablebox setup menu

TV comments:

TV Guide is still blank and will probably be useless for me. Sound is good
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Hope you go to the Dayton Hamfest!

http://www.hamvention.org/ ?

Hmmm....

Great ISF Job by Chad B.
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Attached is a picture of the 5067 on the new TR46x3 stand


SWEET!!!
The stand and TV match very well. It's giving me second thoughts about the stand I have picked out for the 61"/67" 68 model I'm going to get. Excellent picture too. I almost wish my bedroom TV would break so I could get the 42" 720P version for a replacement.

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Nice to see the 67 series finally being shipped and pics getting put up.

I wish samsung made a distinction between the cabinets for the 67 vs 68/78 series. Ah well, minor complaint, but that's just me
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Lip Sync:

OK, I need help. I thought the lip sync issue was only with SD programming, not HD. Now I am seeing it on some HD programming. The real problem is that it isn't everything. When it is out of sync, it is really bad. Even my girlfriend notices it. It makes it very difficult to watch the show. Why would it happen on some shows, but not others.

Here is how I have everything set up:

Scientific Atlanta HD-DVR from TWC - video is going to the TV through a DVI -> HDVI cable. The audio is going to a Sony DA555ES receiver through the digital optical cable.

An earlier poster said to make sure that the audio setup on the cable box is set to "digital out". It is.

I haven't made any changes to the TV. Are there any adjustments I can make? Should I call out a tech?

I don't know what to do. The picture is absolutely awesome. I don't want to give up on this set.

I appreciate your suggestions.

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mwilli / aircasper - pm'd both of you. thanks!
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Lip Sync:

OK, I need help. I thought the lip sync issue was only with SD programming, not HD. Now I am seeing it on some HD programming. The real problem is that it isn't everything. When it is out of sync, it is really bad. Even my girlfriend notices it. It makes it very difficult to watch the show. Why would it happen on some shows, but not others.

Here is how I have everything set up:

Scientific Atlanta HD-DVR from TWC - video is going to the TV through a DVI -> HDVI cable. The audio is going to a Sony DA555ES receiver through the digital optical cable.

An earlier poster said to make sure that the audio setup on the cable box is set to "digital out". It is.

I haven't made any changes to the TV. Are there any adjustments I can make? Should I call out a tech?

I don't know what to do. The picture is absolutely awesome. I don't want to give up on this set.

I appreciate your suggestions.

Mark

If you still have your OLD set, it might be worth feeding it a s-video feed to see if the broadcast is just out of sync. This will take your new set out of the test. Some broadcasts are just out of sync. The clue is your comment about it being really bad.

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I have the money finally to put down on a new TV and having been putting the Samsung HLR-6167w on the top of the list.

Is this TV worth getting now or should I wait till the 1080P version to come out? I thought the 1080's were coming out soon.
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HLR5667 arrived this morning, about 10 minutes ago. I have to be at work in a half hour but I want to post my initial impressions...

STUNNING

The set design and aesthetics are absolute top notch at this price point. I have yet to power the set up and see picture, that'll come this afternoon. I still have to build my stand as well... went with the Bush "36 TV Stand" which is really more for up to a 60" projo. Hopefully by 6'ish tonight I'll have it up and running.

Any other owners: have your sets arrived with a good deal of dust on them? I had dust all over the top and screen of my set. It was in a box until this morning when the guys brought it in. Very odd... maybe it's dusty on the plane over from asia...?

~Lance

ps- this will officially be the longest day of work ever because I have this baby to come home to!
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Your problem may be due to feeding your digital audio directly to your receiver and not through the TV. You may have to feed your digital audio from your DVR to the audio DVI in on your TV and use the TV optical digital out to feed your receiver. Processing the the video signal in the TV may delay the video picture. I am assuming the digital out on the TV is in sync with the video delay. (I'm guessing I'm not an expert)

I don't know which DVR you have but TWC in my area is now supplying the SFA 8300, which has an HDMI out. If you had this DVR you could feed both the video and digital audio directly to the TV in one cable and use the digital optical out on the TV to feed your receiver.
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I live in Houston. TWC does offer the 8300 here (which I requested), but they delivered an 8000 instead.

I will try running the audio to the reciever through the TV. I'll let you know what happens.

UCSB

Unfortunately, I have already given my old TV to my sister. She is a warehouse of all of my hand me down electronics. :-)

I will try all of the suggestions you guys mentioned and let you know how it goes.
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Any other owners: have your sets arrived with a good deal of dust on them? I had dust all over the top and screen of my set. It was in a box until this morning when the guys brought it in. Very odd... maybe it's dusty on the plane over from asia...?

My external box was amazingly dirty. It looked like they shipped it in an open pony express wagon. Internally, everything was OK. The set had that thin foam fabric sheet over it, with the opening taped over at the top.

Aside from getting the carpet dirty before I realized how dirty the box was, my only problem was a small dent in the front bezel, just to the right of the Samsung logo.
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I was looking at the back of my TV today and it appears to me a center channel shelf could be built.

Along the top of the TV, are four rectangle indents that have screws recesed in them. The indents are about 1.5 inches long and .5 inches tall and deep. So a shelf made of plastic could easily use these slots as a ways to connect. Moght even be able to do it with a small block of wood.

Just wondering if anybody has ever built their own center channel speaker shelf for the top of one of these TVs
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http://www.hamvention.org/ ?

Hmmm....

Don't tell me you have NEVER gone?
Shame on you. I would go, but then I would have to rent a truck to take all the 'stuff' back home.

BTW, for anyone else, probably have of what is there is computer orientated.

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It's not recommended to put much weight onto the frame of the Sammy dlp's for they are very lightely constructed. So if you center is more than 7 or 8 lbs, I wouldn't do this.

I put up a simple bookshelf--the kind that has two brackets coming out from verticle strips screwed into the wall behind the tv (the kind most of us used in college in past decades!). Home Depot has some that are heavier-duy than the old variety. The metal brackets are as long as 24", but the 18.5" ones were long enough for me. I have the (oak) wooden shelf just at the top edge of the tv and right up to it, so that the center speaker looks like it's resting on the top edge of the tv, but actually has no weight on it at all. And one can't see the wooden shelf, or the wall mountings behind, from the seating area. Anyway, this is one rather simple way to do it.
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My center speaker is a KLH 13"x6"x6" that weighs around 5 pounds. The speaker enclosure is made of wood, so I ended up nailing a small picture frame hook on the back of the speaker and hanging it on the wall behind the set. Its offset from the front of the set by the depth of the set (13"), but works just fine.
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... went with the Bush "36 TV Stand" which is really more for up to a 60" projo.

lswaidz--

I'd like to hear your opinions of that stand. After many hours of research, I finally found that one by accident and am about to order it, but I have one question...

Can you tell me if it can be built without including that little base? The unit is too tall for my 5067 (coming tomorrow) and if I can leave off that base, it'll be perfect.

TIA,

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Back to the lip sync issue.

I went down to my local TWC store. I swapped out the 8000 HD DVR for the 8300. I connected the cable box to the TV using a HDMI cable. I have the audio out going from the TV to my stereo using the digital optical cable.

This seems to be working so far. It's tough to tell. Daytime television is so bad, it is unwatchable. I can only stomach a few minutes at a time. I'll post again this evening when we watch a program worth watching for more than 2 mintues. :-)

This connection has caused a new issue. Does the TV pass Dolby Digital to the reciever? I have turned on a couple of HD chanels that should be broadcasting in 5.1. My receiver is only outputting in stereo.

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I can't tell you if the your TV will pass the 5.1 signal or not but your DVR has likely switched to stereo mode due to the HDMI connection. There is something in the HDMI protocal that switches the signal to stereo if the receiver is not 5.1 compatible. I remember reading somewhere in the 8300 literature that you can go into setup and force the 5.1 signal for the optical digital out. I hope it works for the HDMI connection also.
Many of us are going to be in your shoes as our TVs come in. Please keep us posted on your progress.
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I can't tell you if the your TV will pass the 5.1 signal or not but your DVR has likely switched to stereo mode due to the HDMI connection. There is something in the HDMI protocal that switches the signal to stereo if the receiver is not 5.1 compatible. I remember reading somewhere in the 8300 literature that you can go into setup and force the 5.1 signal for the optical digital out. I hope it works for the HDMI connection also.
Many of us are going to be in your shoes as our TVs come in. Please keep us posted on your progress.

I just got off the phone with Samsung and TWC. Samsung told me that the cable box is over riding the TV. So, I called TWC. HDMI is forcing the signal to stereo. If I want 5.1, it looks like I'm going to have to run the audio out from the cable box to my receiver. This is probably going to cause the lip sync issue again. I'll keep you posted and let you know. Hopefully, I can let you know this evening. The girlfriend is getting a little perturbed that I am spending more time with the TV and not enough time unpacking from the move.
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I was looking at the back of my TV today and it appears to me a center channel shelf could be built.

Along the top of the TV, are four rectangle indents that have screws recesed in them. The indents are about 1.5 inches long and .5 inches tall and deep. So a shelf made of plastic could easily use these slots as a ways to connect. Moght even be able to do it with a small block of wood.

Just wondering if anybody has ever built their own center channel speaker shelf for the top of one of these TVs

I built something similar for my 61" CRT projection set, but agree with the post that says to limit the project to center channel speakers in the 5-7 lbs range.

A question to the new xx67 owners: have any of you compared the OTA digital tuner to those found in the newer cable/satellite STBs? I'm in a fringe area, and would like to know how they measure up?
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Lots of posts about stands for the 67 and center speaker shelves but not much feedback yet about the actual TV.

No kidding!! How bout' some reviews for us poor saps without the set yet
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No kidding!! How bout' some reviews for us poor saps without the set yet

You could start here:

https://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...hreadid=536582
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