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Okay. We all saw the future 55 inch "slim" SXRD at CES; it had few details to go with it. There is talk of a February or March Sony Line show that I can't seem to find any information on other than discussions on this forum (links anybody?). There are now rumors on another thread that the SXRD's are going to drop $500 on January 22nd (new stuff on the way?). I'm hoping that Sony does have a line show soon and announces that the "Dumbo ears" will be dropped and the sets will have 1080P inputs. Any rumors about this? Any other rumors?
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I'm kind of waiting around to see what Sony says about the 2006 SXRD models. I'd like to buy the 60", but the dumbo ears makes me size down to the 50" because of my builtin Media Center.
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I'm kind of waiting around to see what Sony says about the 2006 SXRD models. I'd like to buy the 60", but the dumbo ears makes me size down to the 50" because of my builtin Media Center.
Will the 2006 models be presented at this "Sony Line Show" everybody keeps talking about in February or March? (Does anybody have any information when EXACTLY this show will be?) I too am waiting to see if they dump the "ears"; my wife and I LOVE the SXRD picture, but she refuses to have the "ears" in the house.
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Will the 2006 models be presented at this "Sony Line Show" everybody keeps talking about in February or March? (Does anybody have any information when EXACTLY this show will be?) I too am waiting to see if they dump the "ears"; my wife and I LOVE the SXRD picture, but she refuses to have the "ears" in the house.
Same here! :) Say "NO" to Dumbo Ears

A few years back, I've had my eyes set on the 60" XBR950, but the glare from the glass screen was a dealbuster. I've got my TV near the French door so I need something that has anti-glare coating like in the XS series. I'm hoping that the new SXRD for 06' has that. Did anyone who saw the prototype in CES see if the screen was glass plated or not?
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FROM ANOTHER SXRD THREAD:

I received this message from a Greg, a Sony PR person.

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Thanks for your email and interest. While I am only a media contact and
cannot provide official "customer service" I can tell you that the 55-inch
slim SXRD was only a prototype model and therefore, we have no public
specifications, pricing or release date. Please keep an eye on
www.sony.com/news for updates on this model line as well as other Sony
news...

Best,

Greg Belloni
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For latest Sony news please visit www.sony.com/news
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I'm kind of waiting around to see what Sony says about the 2006 SXRD models. I'd like to buy the 60", but the dumbo ears makes me size down to the 50" because of my builtin Media Center.
same here with my situation. And I hope the price on these new sets are not too much more expensive than the current models.
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You folks do realize that Sony RPTVs traditionally are released in Sept-Nov?
Just an FYI. :)
But, for 1080p inputs it sounds like a good idea to wait.
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You folks do realize that Sony RPTVs traditionally are released in Sept-Nov?
Just an FYI. :)
But, for 1080p inputs it sounds like a good idea to wait.
I can wait; I just want to know how long I have to wait. If they are going to be adding 1080P inputs this year, fine. If it won't be until next year, the new Samsung LED DLP with dual 1080P inputs available in April will probably be the way I'll go if the picture does not stink.
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You folks do realize that Sony RPTVs traditionally are released in Sept-Nov?
Just an FYI. :)
But, for 1080p inputs it sounds like a good idea to wait.
While this has been true in the past, competition has heated up so much that manufacturers are scrambling to kick new tech out the door as fast as possible. You can't be sure when new releases are coming anymore.

For example, Sony's A10 and A20 LCD RPTV's were released in June and July, 2005. The 50 and 60" SXRD's were originally promised for October/November, 2005, but were pushed up to September 2005.

I agree, can't hurt to wait a little longer, with improvements being made and cheaper prices for more and hopefully better tech. Of course, that's what I said last January and I'm still waiting. :D
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You folks do realize that Sony RPTVs traditionally are released in Sept-Nov?
Just an FYI. :)
But, for 1080p inputs it sounds like a good idea to wait.

I disagree. I think Sony put the SXRD technology in the old XS casing to get it onto the street to compete with TI/JVC 1080P products. I think they will have more SXRD products by springtime with a new casing and more than likely, a new line (and better reliability on all? :) ).
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The European show is in mid March - Hannover Germany (I think CEBIT?) and much larger than CES. One could hope to see further news then if Sony decides to participate I'd thought the Sony show was either late Feb or March, that's when they announced the 3LCD A10's last year and then they debuted in June/July. I would expect at least perhaps a 70" unless they still want to milk the Q006 until the $13K cow is drained and R&D is paid for on the whole line. Sony is very secretive until they decide they remain tight lipped. :D

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I think that cow is already dry. Like the guy at Ultimate Electronics said, the best thing about the Qualia is that it makes the 70" Mitsubishi Diamond Plus seem reasonably priced.

However, with only a prototype showed at CES, I don't see new models "just around the corner."
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This TV sounds like it's 10 months out. Ah well, I've waited 5 years, I tink I can wait another 10 months.
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I'm hoping they will keep the dumbo ears. That's one of the first things that caught my eye, and everybody who has seen my set thinks it looks wonderful with the "floating" effect. I was so glad when I saw they kept the design in the XBR1's and I'm hoping the next set to come out will contain that wonderful design effect. The WF series just look horrible aesthetically, and having a thin line around the screen makes the set look plain.
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Dumbo ears must go.
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Keep those speakers . . . I like the styling of the XBR1's. It looks as if some effort was made to have the set stand out from the crowd, and I think it's nicely done. Both futuristic and tasteful. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, of course, and I can understand the practical issue for those intending to place the set in an enclosed cabinet.
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I hated those ears until I decided to put one of those small lamps for the back of your TV behind it. Tune it down just right and its perfect coming from the top and sides between the ears and such... Improves what is already a great picture and when its real dark helps out on eye fatigue.
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I don't have a problem with the SXRD's speakers and think they should be kept just to piss off a certain person who keeps complaining about them! ;)
Now you have gone too far! :eek:
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People! Can't we all just get along? What is obviously needed are removable dumbo ears :rolleyes:. Hopefully Sony will pick up on it. For me I ended up not minding them though I never use them. After three weeks I still love the PQ I get from my 50, especially with well transfered DVDs and OTA HD.

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I thought this was a great discussion in the Qualia forum regarding the SXRD dumbo ears. I wish I could have said it as well.

"From a business standpoint I think the lunatics are in charge at Sony and even the way they were not fast enough to design a cabinet for the SXRD instead they plugged it into a recycle piece of junk XS system here you throw innovation into a recycled box that's being phased out. Whether you like Dumbo or not it was a rather lazy and crappy way to treat what they promo as the next big thing and perhaps the reason they lose so much money. They gave no effort and R&D into giving the best in class PQ it's own cosmetic housing. Trying to imagine the green light thinking at Sony brainstorming the SXRD and someone speaks up that they forgot to design a cabinet and someone speaks up and says lets use the cabinet of the panel we're phasing out - that would be like designing a total new model year in cars and then packaging everything on to last years model and telling everyone it's the best in the World even though the package is the same as the model being cleared out. That's Nutts!"
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I just hope with the 2006 SXRD's they are able to remove SSE. Doubtful, but I guess we will see.
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That's funny seeing as the SXRD technology came from the Qualia. What would really be nice is if they came out with a 70" SXRD with those type of speakers on the side.
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I have nothing to base this on, but wouldn't you think that since Sony has been boasting that the Playstation 3 will be pumping out 1080P, wouldn't it make sense that they would have Sony 1080P input HDTV's in the stores by the release of PS3? I can't imagine that they would talk up 1080P and then let other manufacturers "steal" HDTV sales because their products don't have 1080P input capabilities. PS3 is supposed to be released this spring (where, we don't know), so you would think they would be announcing 1080P inputs soon... ya think?
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That's funny seeing as the SXRD technology came from the Qualia. What would really be nice is if they came out with a 70" SXRD with those type of speakers on the side.
Absolutely!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But looking at the 55" SXRD prototype from CES, it doesn't look like they made them detachable. It does look a lot better though.
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I have nothing to base this on, but wouldn't you think that since Sony has been boasting that the Playstation 3 will be pumping out 1080P, wouldn't it make sense that they would have Sony 1080P input HDTV's in the stores by the release of PS3? I can't imagine that they would talk up 1080P and then let other manufacturers "steal" HDTV sales because their products don't have 1080P input capabilities. PS3 is supposed to be released this spring (where, we don't know), so you would think they would be announcing 1080P inputs soon... ya think?
Thats an excellent point. Unfortunately I've heard nothing but rumors as to when the release of the PS3 will be.
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I have nothing to base this on, but wouldn't you think that since Sony has been boasting that the Playstation 3 will be pumping out 1080P, wouldn't it make sense that they would have Sony 1080P input HDTV's in the stores by the release of PS3? I can't imagine that they would talk up 1080P and then let other manufacturers "steal" HDTV sales because their products don't have 1080P input capabilities. PS3 is supposed to be released this spring (where, we don't know), so you would think they would be announcing 1080P inputs soon... ya think?
PS3 wont be able to put out that res in anything but movies. All the software devs have said that the PS3 is not powerful enough to support 1080p with sufficient detail and frame rate. 24fps is not sufficient in video games (the 1080p standard). Also i highly doubt that between 1080i bumped to 1080p and straight 1080p in a video game format would yield any kind of noticeable difference in this generation. I doubt sony is really worried about other companies stealing sales. Im sure you have seen the sets running on real 1080p versus the sxrd bumped 1080p. The sxrd still looks better imo, rich colors and ultra clear response time from the pixels.
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PS3 wont be able to put out that res in anything but movies. All the software devs have said that the PS3 is not powerful enough to support 1080p with sufficient detail and frame rate. 24fps is not sufficient in video games (the 1080p standard). Also i highly doubt that between 1080i bumped to 1080p and straight 1080p in a video game format would yield any kind of noticeable difference in this generation. I doubt sony is really worried about other companies stealing sales. Im sure you have seen the sets running on real 1080p versus the sxrd bumped 1080p. The sxrd still looks better imo, rich colors and ultra clear response time from the pixels.
With Sony 1080P BD players starting out at $1800 a pop, 1080P BD movies on PS3 (at a drastically lower price) is 90% of the reason why I'm waiting for PS3. A Sony SXRD with 1080P inputs and being fed 1080P "something" will likely look better than one without; we don't know how much better it would actually look though.
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Over the years I've noticed that Sony's new model lines start to filter into stores by mid August, though I'm sure someone could find many examples of particular models that were released earlier or later. Manufacturers in general don't seem to operate on any fixed schedule with regard to new models. I guess part of it depends on the amount of revision from the previous model.

Removing the despised dumbo ears appears fairly simple, involving a minor cabinet change and finding another location for the built-in speakers. Then again I'm not an engineer and wouldn't know the effect on the assembly line.

Well, I'd love to have a 60" without waiting around for Sony unless some change is in the works that will improve pq for the new models. The dumbo ears don't bother me that much as far as aesthetics, but mostly because of the additional width they add.

What about a hacksaw mod to remove them?
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Do you know what would speed up this whole "Sony announcing / coming out with future SXRD models" thing? If we all just went out and purchased a "big eared" SXRD today, there would probably be some sort of an announcement on the internet right after we got them home and got the box open. :rolleyes:
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With Sony 1080P BD players starting out at $1800 a pop, 1080P BD movies on PS3 (at a drastically lower price) is 90% of the reason why I'm waiting for PS3. A Sony SXRD with 1080P inputs and being fed 1080P "something" will likely look better than one without; we don't know how much better it would actually look though.
Actually it most likely wont assuming all things equal. The source content will be 1080p24fps versus 1080i60fps. Interlaced versus progressive. Same picture with every other line taken out then re-compiled by the TV. With quality electronics the moving images should appear identical.
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