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post #1 of 10 Old 08-11-2017, 08:27 PM - Thread Starter
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I had forgotten how good CRT HDTVs could look.

Back in 2008 when I moved out and into my first apartment HD was growing more popular. I used to work at Best Buy so I knew firsthand how much better a HD picture looked compared to SD and the next Gen gaming consoles were out which supported HD as well. I'm not sure why I didn't go to best buy to look at tvs. Instead I went to Kmart. They had a few tube tvs but most were expensive flat panels. Well I came across a stack of Toshiba 30hf66 tvs that were on sale for $399. Far cheaper than any other HDTV. So I did what I normally don't do. Purchased the TV sight unknown and without research. I had to take it out of the box in the parking lot because it wouldn't fit in my car otherwise. I was just starting to get into home theater so I researched how to get the beat pic. I was introduced to calibration disks so ordered Avia on eBay.

After receiving the DVD and lugging that beast into my room I calibrated it, ordered HD from Comcast and was very happy. Later on that year I moved into a house. But I enjoyed a lot of movie watching and ps3 and Xbox 360 play on my TV. Picture was outstanding and everyone that came over always commented on how good it looked. I guess I got lucky as far as having a good tv goes because I noticed on this forum the Toshiba tube HDTVs got a bad rep for quality issues. But my convergence was near perfect. I did have the slight geometry issues on 4:3 content but I rarely watched it so I was OK. And yes the red was a little strong which is a known thing with these tvs but everything still looked good and I didn't have blooming or bleed etc. So in 2010 I got a Samsung LCD for the bedroom so the Toshiba was moved to the mancave. But at 30inches it was too small, especially with my couch being 15 feet away. So the TV Sat practically unused. I ended up getting a projector and screen and Klipsch surround etc and pushed the Toshiba in a corner in the cave. That was in 2011.

Fast forward to today I decided to fire up the old tv and hooked up my 360 which had been sitting unused for awhile (got a ps4 and Xbox one) and was once again impressed by the pic. I hooked up my ps4 as well and used the Spears and Munsil calibrating disc to tweak the settings. Then I did something I had been too scared to do. I dove into the service menu and adjusted the over scan. I wrote down the original values of course. But let me just say that wow this old trusty tv still looks great. Color saturation is great. Black levels are great. It looks really good. I even streamed some netflix on it and was impressed. I has forgotten just how good of a picture a crt HDTV could have. A cheap one at that. One that doesn't have a good rep. But I'm glad I picked it up 9 years ago. Hopefully it will last me many more years. I have delegated it as my gaming tv for my older consoles. I will keep my ps4 and Xbox one on the projector and Samsung in the bedroom but my PS3 and 360 etc will be hooked up to the old Toshiba. When I checked the hours it only had 2600 hours on it so it should last hopefully for 1000s more hours.

I also found a 30" standard JVC crt on Craigslist today for $20. Picking it up Monday. That will also be a retro gaming tv. But for my really old consoles. The Sega Genesis, NES etc since those old games look best on the older 4:3 crt tvs. Not to mention the lightguns actually work on them. I'm a bachelor right now but I'm trying to figure out how I'll be able to explain to my future wife that I need a mancave for my projector and 2 tube tvs lol. Idk maybe I'll be able to throw the tvs in a closet in the mancave and just open the doors when i want to do some retro gaming lol.

Nonetheless I like telling stories so I figured I would come on here lol. But yeah even with all of the great technology of today with the LED LCDs and OLED etc the old trusty CRT HDTV still looks good today! But yes it is a beast with a big back and weight of over 100 pounds. But hopefully it will last for many more years.


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Thank you for your story!!

YES CRTs are beautiful... The BEST tv to ever come out

Im glad you can enjoy them!!!
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Thanks! I lugged the crt I found on Craigslist home yesterday. It's a 32 inch JVC I'Art flat screen TV. Manufactured in 05. Has component inputs but doesn't support progressive scan. I haven't been able to hook anything up to it yet. Well I hooked up my original xbox but it's giving an error message but it looked good. When the seller showed it to me at his home it looked good. Didn't see any convergence issues or focus issues in the corners etc and the TV settings were all still set to default so it hadn't been over driven from having the contrast up too high. Colors looked really good as well. I'd venture to say it's up there with the Sony's as far as picture quality. Unfortunately I threw my stuff in a closet and can't find all my pieces to my retro consoles. I have the systems and games but now I can't find the cables or controllers. So the TV will be unused for a min until I'm able to either find everything or order it on eBay. But for $20 I can't complain at all. I believe it will be a good tv for years to come. Seller even threw in the stand for free. But wow was this thing a beast to move solo, I'm surprised I managed to get it in my home.


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I have a Samsung crt hdtv from a decade ago. Similar to your story, i bought it with zero research, and it still impresses me. It's too small to be useful in the house, but I'm considering putting it in the shed for some gaming. Either way, I'd never get rid of it. My only regret is I didn't get a bigger model.
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Back in 2005, my parents bought a new Sony Wega. We looked at the widescreen models but couldn't afford one so we went with a good old 4:3 27" that they still use in their living room. There was something about the wider sets that I found irresistible even years later but I eventually had to accept that I would probably never own one.

About 2 years ago, I had just started a new job and didn't have a TV in my new apartment yet. I went on Craigslist to see what deals I could find and I saw a Sony Wega 30" KD-30XS955 for $50. A few hours later and after struggling to get it in my place with the help of a coworker, my new TV was ready for some use. The first thing that impressed me was the sound. It had a subwoofer in there so it easily had the best sound I've ever heard from a TV. Then came the sharpness and pure black levels. I was in heaven. It did have some overscan that I reduced by playing around in the service menu but after the initial tweaks, I couldn't be happier with it. A few months later, I started having problems with a weird red shadow that would appear on edges in the image. I found that tapping the top of the set would resolve this but it started happening more and more frequently. Eventually it started giving me the dreaded seven blinking red lights code. I decided to throw it out and buy a 4K to replace it. I still get upset about how weak the "blacks" on the new set are compared to the CRT. At least I got to briefly own a TV I had lusted after for years.
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Blacks,motion, and depth of the picture, all go into making a crt an under rated device for watching television.
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In my living room, I still have a Sony SDTV 32" WEGA (can't remember the exact model number). Bought in 2003. Still going strong. The deal in the house is I get to put the "good stuff" in the "man-cave" but as my wife would be fine with a 13" SDTV, the living room one stays until it dies.

DVDs (and BDs--downrezzed, of course) still look quite good in the 16x9 "cheat mode" (blacks look better than any other display in the house). As much as I love my PJ setup in the basement, if I had to give up EITHER my audio gear or my PJ...bye, bye PJ.
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You need a crt projector.
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Blacks,motion, and depth of the picture, all go into making a crt an under rated device for watching television.
 
Yes it is mind boggling how people think a sterile flat picture is good!!!! -- I think its aweful.....





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I use a Sony CRT for my retro gaming as well. Even Digital Foundry agrees.


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