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Looking at buying a new projector today and need your help. Had the HC7800 mitsubishi but just sold
and looking at the Optoma HD8200 or a budget projector 800.00 price point. What are your thoughts
on this and all I want is blacks that are better than the H7800 which was not good. I am not sensitive
to rainbows and will be shooting on a JKP 1.1 screen with total light control in a blacked out room.

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I struggle with your request, because the room itself, and the quality of the screen calls for a higher contrast projector, and the Mits, Optoma, and no other projector that I've ever heard of is going to do that for under $2,000. I would be recommending the JVC RS series or a Sony LCoS model in this type of room with that type of screen because you can actually get the benefit from that type of projector in that type of space, and you have made a first level desire to have better black levels.

From all I've heard, the Optoma 131x will deliver better blacks than almost anything at that price point, but I wouldn't think they would be one bit better than the H7800. Heck, I would expect them to be worse. It's a living room projector, not a theater projector, and that is reflected in the high lumen output, and poor black levels it delivers. The HD8200 I would expect to be on par with the 7800. Not worlds better, not worlds worse, but very similar.

This is the crux I think... DLP hasn't done much to improve in the last decade. The newest models really focus on the living room, not the theater, and the good theater projectors from years ago are being bested for black level performance by LCD.

LCoS (JVC/Sony) has them both pretty handily beat from what I've seen. But, they aren't going to do it at a bargain basement price.

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If you are interested in used a Planar PD8130 was just recently listed on ebay with a 133" screen.. maybe make an offer on the projector only. It would blow away current day entry level projectors in a dark room. Not going to get MML like a JVC but you will get a very accurate color and vertical lens shift with a quality lens and a 1" DMD.. Of course this is used so it is a gamble.. Also there is a Marnatz VP15 for sale by one of the forum members .. both these options are more than your budget and neither on is a black level king but they both will produce a better image in your room than what you are asking about.. New is not always the best bang for the buck..
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Thanks for the replies and I went with the HD82. Had the RS1 and this is better than that so I can
live with the PQ of the Optoma.
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Just hooked up the Optoma HD82 and for less than 800.00 a great machine. Black levels are very good and it seem the
the latest firmware has helped the iris does not seem to bother me in cinema2 mode so a gem of a projector for
the price. It kills the Misubishi HC7800 in pq and I am glad I made the change.
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The hd8200 and hd8300 are pretty good projectors, but I have never had a chance to play around with them. From user reports, I think the Mits and even the Benq have far inferior Irises to the Optoma hd8200's, even if the hd8200's Iris isn't perfect.

I think you got a steal for $800 for an hd8200, and I doubt anything comes close to this in overall PQ in this price range.

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I read Guitarmans review and he was right on the picture is amazing. Thanks
Codeguy enjoy reading your reviews and value the experts opinions.
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Just enjoying the hd82 for the price 799.00 is there a better deal

Firmware c11 and iris on cinema 2 with set to 86 in service menu came
With it set at 84. Jkp1.1 screen. Iris is very smooth. Blacks are very good .
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How are you stretching your image to fill your 2.35.1 screen? - Just wondering, looks really good! smile.gif
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That is a 16X9 JKP 1.1 that I am selling the blacks are that good on the projector. I have a light controlled room.
Thanks for the props the image is stunning in person. It was a 2:35 image not stretched.
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16/9 image from Rommel
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Wow Greg, that looks amazing. Excellent black level. Do you think some of that may be attributed to the JKP screen?

The bulbs are super cheap too. You could stock up on bulbs and run it in high lamp mode to get extra brightness and just change your bulbs more often (Ken Whitcomb suggested that to me and that is what I do with both my JVC and Samsung)

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Wow Greg, that looks amazing. Excellent black level. Do you think some of that may be attributed to the JKP screen?

The bulbs are super cheap too. You could stock up on bulbs and run it in high lamp mode to get extra brightness and just change your bulbs more often (Ken Whitcomb suggested that to me and that is what I do with both my JVC and Samsung)

The screen is transparent with the DLP HD-82 the JKP gets out of the way if that makes sense.
I'm running low power and there is no need for hipower at this time. As for black levels it is very
good not at your JVC level you have a crazy machine but kills Epson 3020 and such on black levels and PQ.
I believe the black levels (HD82)perceived better than the RS-1 not as good as the RS-2 that I have had in my theater.


Ed like I have said 799.00 and I bought a 1 year warranty for 65.00 very pleased. Projector did not have a mark on it. Love the JVC's but addicted to DLP:p
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Like to think I am understanding the projector
A little bit better.

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