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SONY VPL-HW40ES : New SONY SXRD 1080P home theater projector

You're defending a defect.

One tenth of rated bulb life (600 ECO hours out of a rated 5000) is too soon to be experiencing this kind of issue; and among several of my colleagues with other projectors, we're all well above a few thousand hours into lamp life without any lamp-related issue (on various different lamp modes). Although not without any other issues, of course.

Other than one or two JVC models (and the one or two Sony's as per the posted link), this is no longer common for a currently-in-production projector.

The fact that Sony as well as the dealer are replacing the bulb for free (which is usually not covered) means they're acknowledging the issue.

So take advantage of the excellent warranty and let the manufacturer sort it out!

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I think it's great that Sony is replacing it. But considering the many variables involved I personally don't plan on running to Sony every time my bulb develops flicker. It's not a valuable use of MY time. Others may have different tolerance levels. I still stand by my opinion that it is well past time for a new light source and lamps can be flaky. You can deal with it or stick to flat panels. Is 600 hours too little? Probably... But I think it's very wise to take advertised bulb life with a huge grain of salt.
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In general when someone says they don't wish to sound like an ass it's because they are about to sound like an ass. Kind of like how 'with all due respect' isn't a free pass. I admit to typing a quick response but when people do that to me I ask them if they could elaborate.

Ultimately if you want to mess with a projector IMO you must understand what that means and be prepared to deal with bulb issues. It's the price of doing business until something better comes along.
Fair enough. Thanks for elaborating. It´s true this is my first real projector, but I hadn´t heard about flickering before. I knew that a buld lasted around 2000h and that they were expensive to switch out. The flickering is new info for me and there is not a whole lot of info on that either when you google. Yes, you found some good links but it still seems that not a lot of people has written about it.

Wonder if my unit should be sent in for service. Read in one of your links that a hw55 user had gotten better lamp life and less flicker after a service.

I have my new lamp installed now and running in eco mode. Lo and behold, it flickers AGAIN. Think its time to send it away for a service.

EDIT: Now I set 60hz instead of 24hz and flickering stopped. Might have been related to that this time.

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Fair enough. Thanks for elaborating. It´s true this is my first real projector, but I hadn´t heard about flickering before. I knew that a buld lasted around 2000h and that they were expensive to switch out. The flickering is new info for me and there is not a whole lot of info on that either when you google. Yes, you found some good links but it still seems that not a lot of people has written about it.

Wonder if my unit should be sent in for service. Read in one of your links that a hw55 user had gotten better lamp life and less flicker after a service.

I have my new lamp installed now and running in eco mode. Lo and behold, it flickers AGAIN. Think its time to send it away for a service.

EDIT: Now I set 60hz instead of 24hz and flickering stopped. Might have been related to that this time.
Make sure Film Mode is off. It can also induce flicker with 1080p24.
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Personally I would run the new bulb in high for about 50 hours or so to see if it settles in before attempting to get it serviced. You have plenty of warranty left so there is no huge hurry.
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Make sure Film Mode is off. It can also induce flicker with 1080p24.
Yeah film mode is off and I will run the lamp for a while to see if it gets better. Will leave this thread now for a while, not meaning to make it a support thread. Will start another if issues remain. Thanks to those who helped.
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could someone suggest a ceiling mount from amazon.com for this projector?
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could someone suggest a ceiling mount from amazon.com for this projector?
You might consider this one. The RPA isn't the best mount out there but it's decent and I can confirm that the custom plate this guy is selling fits the 40ES (I bought one from him) .

http://m.ebay.com/itm/Chief-Professional-RPA-020-Ceiling-Mount-for-Sony-VPL-PX35-Series-LCD-Projector-/291595520770?nav=SEARCH

You can directly mount the RPA to a overhead joist or use a mount plate and drop pipe.

This combo seems to sell for a lot more normally. Might be a bit dirty but cleaned up well.
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could someone suggest a ceiling mount from amazon.com for this projector?
Check Mounts & More as they have some good mounts and prices.

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I have joined the club! Here is a little history for those interested. I was coming off a Panny PT900U ( I know long over due). It served me very well for 8yrs with not one issue. I started my research and it came down to the PT-AE8000U, 5030UB and lastly (because of 17' throw distance with 98" Diag) the 40ES. I purchased the Panny from Proj People and set it up. Unfortunately, it had bad color uniformity issues that could not be resolved. Over all I wasn't blown away with the pic quality and I had the same feeling while trying to get the focus adjusted that it just wasn't quite there, just like the 900U. Some say it's a result of the Panny smooth technology . Called PP and they said send it back. Rich from PP recommended the Sony and I went with it even though I had to either get a larger screen or move the Sony closer.

I powered up the Sony and didn't touch a thing and the pic is absolutely gorgeous! Every-time I turn it on and watch something I find myself saying "wow, that looks incredible". Finally, I can adjust the focus and get the pic razor sharp .

I really liked the lens options of the Panny and wish it wasn't DOA but the Sony has made me feel very satisfied with my purchase. And a big thanks to Projector People for making things right!

Here is a snapshot of the 8000U uniformity issue. This was a pause during a commercial.
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has anyone has a problem with the inputs? My hdmi input one seems to have gone offline. input 2 is working fine..
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has anyone has a problem with the inputs? My hdmi input one seems to have gone offline. input 2 is working fine..
Mine is fine so far. When you say offline what do you mean?
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I get no signal in hdmi 1 only a green screen. if i move the calbe to hdmi 2 - it works perfectly.
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I get no signal in hdmi 1 only a green screen. if i move the calbe to hdmi 2 - it works perfectly.
Sounds like that particular HDMI connector has probably lost one or more connections to the PWA. If it's like those used on Samsung TVs, where it's a surface mount component w/ no mechanical support, then it could've easily broken the solder joints just by plugging/unplugging the cable.

I remember that several folks had that problem on the Pro8100 PJ. I always recommend using a connector saver if the cable will be connected/unconnected often.

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Help! I'm new to the Av world and just finished setting up my home theater (well, that's what I call it). The problem is that my Sony HW40ES (mounted on the ceiling) throws the image upside down and backwards. Well, I "flipped" the V and H image but now it is terribly distorted. Like a double image and mainly green and pink. When I restore the image to the upide down and backwards setting, the picture is awesome.

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Help! I'm new to the Av world and just finished setting up my home theater (well, that's what I call it). The problem is that my Sony HW40ES (mounted on the ceiling) throws the image upside down and backwards. Well, I "flipped" the V and H image but now it is terribly distorted. Like a double image and mainly green and pink. When I restore the image to the upide down and backwards setting, the picture is awesome.

Any recommendations? Thanks a ton in advance!
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Mine is set to HV
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Hammer49 - I do not understand your problem explanation. Please re-specify the problem.
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I want to go BIG with the VPL-HW40ES

Looking at a screen size around 180" diagonal.
Anyone with experience running the projector on a screen this large? Should I be concerned about brightness?
Planning on a Seymor AV screen with their XD material (1.0)


Other info, room is 21' deep. Wall is 18' wide with a tall ceiling. Fully light controlled room.
Coming from a LG CF181D at 133" on a Dalite 0.8 gain screen.
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With a screen that large and 1.0 gain you'll only get about 7 foot Lambert http://www.projectorcentral.com/Sony...ulator-pro.htm so it's going to be very dim. 12 is considered the minimum and a movie theater is usually between 16 and 22. Then add in that as the lamp ages you loose another 25% brightness during the first 500-1000 hours. Even if you move the projector as close as it can go which is 17' 9" on a screen that size you'll still only start out with 9 foot Lamberts.

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Looking at a screen size around 180" diagonal.
Anyone with experience running the projector on a screen this large? Should I be concerned about brightness?
Planning on a Seymor AV screen with their XD material (1.0)


Other info, room is 21' deep. Wall is 18' wide with a tall ceiling. Fully light controlled room.
Coming from a LG CF181D at 133" on a Dalite 0.8 gain screen.
You could achieve 16 FL with a 150" diagonal 16:9 1.0 gain screen using high lamp mode. You would probably have to replace the bulb more frequently though and 3D performance might be unsatisfactory. IMO, 180" would be way too large considering the practical seating distances and even 150" would be pushing it, but if you sit near the front row in commercial theaters it might be your preference.
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Has anyone gone from a Mitsubishi 3800 to this projector? Just wondering how much of an improvement I can expect since I am still quite happy with the 3800 but getting the upgrade bug and wouldn`t mind checking out 3D material.
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Absolutely, it's the best .

Here are some more pictures:
My 50ES looks very similar (perhaps not QUITE as bad, but the exact same green circle area in the middle, and the redder sides). It's just the nature of projectors. Never used a consumer projector without fair to poor uniformity. Shame, really...
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HW40ES Color Issues

I've been really enjoying my HW40ES on my new 100" screen. However, last night I was starting to turn everything off and as soon as I turned the DirecTV box off, the colors on the screen when all out of whack (green, see first two pictures) and froze up. I tried switching to the Shield TV input on my Yamaha A850, and the picture did not change. Only after switching the receiver back to D* did the screen un-freeze (a dim, very low color image of the Shield home screen for a second or two, see last attached picture), then it switched back to the D* signal. I tried a different cable, same results. I bypassed the receiver and hooked up the Shield/D*/blu ray player up directly, no dice. I then grabbed a 27" LCD out of another room and hooked it up through the receiver, and everything worked perfectly. Also, while I was trying to diagnose the issue with the projector, it would not respond to any remote control inputs (menu, pattern, power, etc). It sounded like the fan was running at a higher RPM than normal. The only way I could get it to turn off was to unplug it (didn't really want to do that).

I apologize if this issue has come up before, but I don't have time to read through all 100+ pages in this thread. This couldn't have come at a worse time...we have 20 people coming over for thanksgiving, and now a projector that won't function properly. The projector had been on for roughly 4 hours before I had attempted to turn everything off. We have had it on for longer than 4 hours at a time before, with no issues. My best guess is there are around 100 hours on the bulb. I plan on testing it again tonight/tomorrow morning. I'm dreading the thought of having to send it in for repair (I'm well past the return period); I've read that Sony support is not fun to deal with. Anyway, I would appreciate any insight anyone might have to my situation.
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did you plugged it back in this morning ?
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Almost sounds like a possible HDMI handshake issue. Maybe try connecting everything as you had it before, then turn each component on independently, one at a time, starting with the projector. Give each component 15 seconds to fully engage. Hopefully everything will reset if it's only an HDMI issue.
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Hey guys I'm having an issue that has developed in the last week with jerky picture movement. Have around 400 hours on the 40es and I have noticed this the last couple of days while watching Dish and Netflix. Have it set to picture mode auto 1. Auto 2 seems to clear it up. Where should I have it set? Thanks
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Ordered today the HW40ES. It's gonna be replacing my trusted Sony VPL-VW40 from 2008 whit only 300 hours on its original lamp. I will post my impressions later on the weekend...

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SONY VPL-HW40ES : New SONY SXRD 1080P home theater projector

Ordered my HW 40ES a few days ago and ups says it should be at my house tomorrow pretty excited! I have the old Sony vw50 that's pretty dim projecting on a 120" Falcon Horizon Screen so this will be a nice upgrade.
From what I've read on this forum the Sony right out of the box looks pretty good. I'm trying to figure out now what's the best disc to buy to calibrate this myself.
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Ordered my HW 40ES a few days ago and ups says it should be at my house tomorrow pretty excited! I have the old Sony vw50 that's pretty dim projecting on a 120" Falcon Horizon Screen so this will be a nice upgrade.
From what I've read on this forum the Sony right out of the box looks pretty good. I'm trying to figure out now what's the best disc to buy to calibrate this myself.
If you don't intend to use a meter I would suggest Disney WoW:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0045ASBLG/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1448587131&sr=8-1&pi=SY200_QL40&keywords=disney+wow+calibration+di sc&dpPl=1&dpID=51TziBcqZFL&ref=plSrch

It's pretty user friendly. And will allow you to set Contrast and Brightness properly. You could also use free test pattern discs from this forum but the WoW disc is also pretty educational.
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