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Stereodude 04-04-2014 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Verge2 View Post

Some people don't use the iris, I do.
But it seems like there are higher native contrast projector that would appeal the no iris crowd like the latest Epson 9200/5030 or a used/refurb JVC.

neo_2009 04-04-2014 09:15 AM

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... like the latest Epson 9200/5030 or a used/refurb JVC.

Do we now the real native contrast numbers of the Epson 9200/5030?
The soon to be discontinued JVC X35 has around 20:000:1 much more than the expected 7000:1 from the HW40 ...

deffusse 04-04-2014 11:18 AM

20000:1 native?, I doubt....

av4fun 04-04-2014 12:35 PM

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20000:1 native?, I doubt....

JVC webstie claims X35B to be 50000:1 Native contrast .... "Highest NATIVE Contrast Ratio in class (50,000:1) and no Dynamic Iris"

neo_2009 04-04-2014 01:02 PM

^^^
"JVC claimed a contrast ratio of 50,000:1 for the X35 and we actually measured it at 32,000:1, which is excellent. The blacks produced by the projector were superb, measuring 0.01 cd/m2, and the resulting dynamic range was impressive."
Source : http://www.avforums.com/review/jvc-x35-dila-projector-review.448

Stereodude 04-04-2014 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by neo_2009 View Post

Do we now the real native contrast numbers of the Epson 9200/5030?
Cine4home measured ~7000:1 to 8500:1 when calibrated
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The soon to be discontinued JVC X35 has around 20:000:1 much more than the expected 7000:1 from the HW40 ...
Cine4home says the HW40 will measure around 3000:1 to 5000:1.

neo_2009 04-04-2014 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Stereodude View Post

Cine4home says the HW40 will measure around 3000:1 to 5000:1.
Uau, even my old Mits HC3100 measure 3000:1 in the cinema4home review frown.gif

Verge2 04-04-2014 07:11 PM

They measured it at 3000, you got a link for that?

The 55 only measures 7000 with no iris.

neo_2009 04-05-2014 06:11 AM

^^
HC-3100 - Measurements "D65 / 6500K ", Iris closed: 3000:1

Source : http://cineforhome.com/reviews/projectors/MitsuHC3100-1100/HC3100-1100Review.htm

Verge2 04-06-2014 12:14 PM

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^^
HC-3100 - Measurements "D65 / 6500K ", Iris closed: 3000:1

Source : http://cineforhome.com/reviews/projectors/MitsuHC3100-1100/HC3100-1100Review.htm

Wow, surely it's not 3000:1 native. I had a 3000, and the black levels were simply awful compared to lcos stuff that's 5 years old. They were just estimating, hopefully they estimate wrong.

timescape7 04-07-2014 06:07 AM

Probably better to see it before we judge...if the panel has improved, it still do a reasonable black... 2 cents.
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Originally Posted by Stereodude View Post

No dynamic iris... Who's going to buy this?

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timescape7 04-07-2014 06:46 AM

No Iris, does this produce the same results as hw55es Iris Off?

av4fun 04-07-2014 09:50 AM

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No Iris, does this produce the same results as hw55es Iris Off?

I am hoping it will be but we will need to wait and find out. I went to Magnolia yesterday to check out HW55ES with DI off and the black did look fine for me. It was better than the Epson 6030 they had on display. I was trying to pickup a HW30 but now I will wait for HW40. I just got my Fedral refund wink.gif

enricoclaudio 04-07-2014 10:59 AM

I have been waiting 2 years to upgrade my Sony VPL-VW40 to a newer Sony model. I was saving for the HW55ES but if the HW40 looks pretty close to the HW55ES then I will go for HW40. Either way I have DI off in my current projector because it's too distracting for me. I just can't justify $4000 on a projector only to watch two or three movies a month but $2500 is OK.

timescape7 04-07-2014 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by av4fun View Post

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Originally Posted by timescape7 View Post

No Iris, does this produce the same results as hw55es Iris Off?

I am hoping it will be but we will need to wait and find out. I went to Magnolia yesterday to check out HW55ES with DI off and the black did look fine for me. It was better than the Epson 6030 they had on display. I was trying to pickup a HW30 but now I will wait for HW40. I just got my Fedral refund wink.gif


If so, it's a good buy for sure since I don't own a cave room. Reality Creation is a plus for this model.

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Stusok 04-24-2014 03:44 PM

Was talking to dealer and said they went for training For Sony's 2014 product s and one of them was a comparison between the 55 and the 40 projectors side by side and was no difference.

blueskies758 04-24-2014 07:38 PM

Some initial impressions are now coming out - dont think anyone posted this yet :


http://www.chromapure.co.uk/details.asp?id=109&type=news


Wife and I will be starting a dedicated theater room late summer and I will be watching this model closely.
In the end I may go with the 55ES or maybe snag a closeout 30ES as the manual iris is probably important to me.

Most ES 50 and 55 users seem to say that the reality creation is best left at a very low level. I may be ok without the feature.

Sonyad 04-25-2014 09:44 PM

Saw a video here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1iqSaWWWb8 however it's all German to me.

EL Duke 04-26-2014 12:26 AM

Wish I knew German! Anyone give a breakdown???

Maarten110 04-27-2014 02:52 AM

Hey guys.....

 

 

i have for you a google translate of a Dutch review.

 

http://translate.google.nl/translate?hl=nl&sl=nl&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.htforum.nl%2Fyabbse%2Findex.php%3Ftopic%3D142394.0

 

 

 

verdict:

 

[img]http://www.htforum.nl/status/goud.jpg[/img]

 

edit: why the **** doesnt my jpg code works, i type my code correctly but the site adds some "%5b" in the link, thats weird


curtishd 04-30-2014 03:45 PM

Anything new? When is it out in USA?

Stusok 04-30-2014 08:08 PM

It available in Canada now. Dealer said ready to ship. Must be out in the states

Stusok 04-30-2014 08:09 PM

It available in Canada now. Dealer said ready to ship. Must be out in the states

curtishd 05-01-2014 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Stusok View Post

It available in Canada now. Dealer said ready to ship. Must be out in the states

So who has them and how much?
Any USA reviews?

Stusok 05-01-2014 08:45 PM

www.updatetvandstereo.com and www.eastporters.com are the two in Ontario that I got quotes from. Eastporters has an amazing showroom with 7 different projectors to show the difference. They did not have the VPL HW40ES set up so all I saw was the 55 but he had just returned from a Sony show and he was hard pressed to tell the difference from the two projectors. As for reviews there is nothing in English that I can find.

bigsmoooth1414 05-02-2014 05:11 PM

Just saw the VPL-HW40ES at Stereo East in Frisco, TX. It's fantastic. Looks like a HW55ES almost exactly. The black level isn't quite as good due to the lack of the auto iris but I thought they were more than acceptable.

Stereodude 05-02-2014 05:37 PM

I don't really see how that's possible. Either the HW55ES has a poor iris implementation (very unlikely), the content being shown isn't helped by an iris, or the viewing environment wasn't dark enough to appreciate the difference.

bigsmoooth1414 05-02-2014 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Stereodude View Post

I don't really see how that's possible. Either the HW55ES has a poor iris implementation (very unlikely), the content being shown isn't helped by an iris, or the viewing environment wasn't dark enough to appreciate the difference.

I'm honestly not that picky about black level when looking a $2500 projector. It's spectacular at that price. I'll try to add some pictures I took on my phone:



blueskies758 05-02-2014 08:10 PM

Big smooth that home theater store is 20 min from me. Now you have my curiosity !! I was on the fence due to the lack of auto iris but those pics look pretty dag blame good.
Ack! decisions!

enricoclaudio 05-05-2014 01:16 PM

It's up at Sony USA:

http://store.sony.com/economical-full-hd-home-theater-es-projector-with-reality-creation-3d-zid27-VPLHW40ES/cat-27-catid-All-Home-Theater-Projectors?_t=pfm%3Dcategory

A little bit confusing the contrast specifications, 100000:1 or 120000:1?

Extra lamp coupon included but no 3D glasses.


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