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If you use zero vertical lens shift you have the full 25% horizontal to use. Why not raise the fan and lower the projector?

I wish I could. Actually the fan blades would still be in the way. I am now thinking about shifting the fan or possibly moving the screen back a bit further.


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Sony sale on HW40ES. Sale starts today Sunday the 19th and goes to the end of this month. Price is $1,999. Call us for full details.
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I talked with you last week and I will be ordering from you soon.

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I talked with you last week and I will be ordering from you soon.

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Damn, guess I should have waited a couple weeks.
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I have a question about game mode. The review says it's the brightest mode, but also the only setting that drops the lag to 24 ms. Other than setting the lamp to eco mode, is there any other way to drop the light output in this mode?
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I have a question about game mode. The review says it's the brightest mode, but also the only setting that drops the lag to 24 ms. Other than setting the lamp to eco mode, is there any other way to drop the light output in this mode?
I heard it was fast in all Pic modes. Not sure where I read that.

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Here's where I read it...about a third of the way down here and just after the graphs here.

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Hey all, great thread!

I just got my 40ES setup and am loving it! Just had a chance to play around with the 3D, I got a few sets of the PS3 glasses and they seem to work very well. This is my first 3D device so I'm a bit new to how it works.

I read that the glasses/projector use active shutter. I have times in movies when the 3D glasses almost seem to lose sync? They will get get brighter and the image is no longer 3D it just looks blurred like if the glasses were off. Often if I lean in closer toward the screen it darkens the glasses back up and the image is 3D again.


Could it be some settings I need to tweak? I have a Screen Innovations screen and the projector hangs from the ceiling, black ceiling tiles. Seats are about 12-15ft back from the screen, projector is almost directly above head on my rear row of seats.


Any input? Thanks!
May I know your seating/projector positions? I am looking to buy this proj and this is the last thing (IR vs. RF glass tech) that's giving me pause.

Within what range does the IR vs. RF not matter? I have the projector right above my seating position (so <5 feet from glasses to projector), and the screen is ~11 ft away. Will I see the ill effects of IR?
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Sale has me pulling the trigger. Can't wait to get it in my set up and see if I experience the same "wow" factor I did when I installed my Mitsubishi HD1000 7 years ago!
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I heard it was fast in all Pic modes. Not sure where I read that.

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Here's where I read it...about a third of the way down https://www.avsforum.com/forum/68-dig...ojector-6.html
Hmm, I've read a couple of conflicting reviews then. This one at http://www.projectorcentral.com/sony...ge=Performance says this


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Game mode, at 1719 lumens, is the projector's brightest mode. It also boasts the lowest input lag at only 24 milliseconds. Game mode has a slight blue tint, since its grayscale averages 7200K, so it's all set for living room use. Folks intending to play games in a theater environment should adjust color temperature down to 6500K, which is easily done.
Apparently the other modes run at 60ms
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Hmm, I've read a couple of conflicting reviews then. This one at http://www.projectorcentral.com/sony...ge=Performance says this




Apparently the other modes run at 60ms
Projector central said it never tested the other modes and when you read what the testers said in my post (#1147)...edit section (if it wasn't posted in time I'll post it again). It says you have to make sure it's not on auto 1. "28ms in all presets if [Film Mode] is not “Auto1“"-HDTVtest

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In the Game picture mode it was 26.5, but when I turned FM back on, it went up to 60.4. So I went back to Cinema mode ( I'm forgetting the name of the mode, something like that), and turned FM Off (or Auto 2), it went from 60.4 to 26.5.
http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/vplhw...1406063801.htm

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/68-digital-projectors-under-3-000-usd-msrp/1524377-sony-vpl-hw40es-new-sony-sxrd-1080p-home-theater-projector-6.html

Hope this helps...or is correct.

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Hmm, I've read a couple of conflicting reviews then. This one at http://www.projectorcentral.com/sony...ge=Performance says this




Apparently the other modes run at 60ms
Projector central said it never tested the other modes and when you read what the testers said in my post (#1147)...edit section (if it wasn't posted in time I'll post it again). It says you have to make sure it's not on auto 1. "28ms in all presets if [Film Mode] is not “Auto1“"-HDTVtest

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In the Game picture mode it was 26.5, but when I turned FM back on, it went up to 60.4. So I went back to Cinema mode ( I'm forgetting the name of the mode, something like that), and turned FM Off (or Auto 2), it went from 60.4 to 26.5.
http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/vplhw...1406063801.htm

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/68-digital-projectors-under-3-000-usd-msrp/1524377-sony-vpl-hw40es-new-sony-sxrd-1080p-home-theater-projector-6.html

Hope this helps...or is correct.
Oh I see what they're saying. Film Mode is something of a sub preset thing. So you can be in reference mode for example and still be able to mess with film mode. If this is correct it's great news as you can keep the accurate grayscale and low light of this mode but play games with minimal lag.
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This model is on sale now. Tempting to pick one up.
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Anyone upgrade from a Panasonic AE4000U? If so, how does the contrast compare (4000 using dynamic iris)? How film like is the image versus the 4000's smooth screen?
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Anyone upgrade from a Panasonic AE4000U? If so, how does the contrast compare (4000 using dynamic iris)? How film like is the image versus the 4000's smooth screen?
I haven't compared them both together at the same time, but one thing I really like about the HW40 is that it has a really analogue feeling to the image with no screen-door or pixels in sight and I think it can appeal to smooth screen fans.
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Can anyone let me know how this projector would do with ambient light? I was looking at the epson home cinema 3500 but now with the sale price of the HW40ES falling below $2000 makes this a very good option. I am however, worried about the lumens @ 1700. I want to make sure I would be able to still see a good picture with some ambient light in the room. How would this projector perform in a room with some ambient light? Videos or pictures would be helpful.
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Sony sale on HW40ES. Sale starts today Sunday the 19th and goes to the end of this month. Price is $1,999. Call us for full details.
Damn, I might spend some Christmas money early and call you in a few days, I never see Sony's on a sale like that, they like to keep their price points high.
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Can anyone let me know how this projector would do with ambient light? I was looking at the epson home cinema 3500 but now with the sale price of the HW40ES falling below $2000 makes this a very good option. I am however, worried about the lumens @ 1700. I want to make sure I would be able to still see a good picture with some ambient light in the room. How would this projector perform in a room with some ambient light? Videos or pictures would be helpful.

That concerns me as well. My lowly Epson 3010 is rated @ 2200 lumens.


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Old Corps, the Epson 3010 might be rated at 2,200 lumens with a brand new lamp in Dynamic mode, it does not put out that much in Cinema mode (1,300 lumens), especially with the lamp on Eco (974 lumens), and my experience is that the 3010 lamp dims quickly and noticeably. The Sony puts out 1,500 lumens or greater in pretty much every mode. See the following test results:

http://www.projectorreviews.com/sony...performance-1/
http://www.projectorcentral.com/epso...ge=Performance

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Damn, guess I should have waited a couple weeks.
If you purchased in the last two weeks, your dealer should have known about the sale. We have not sold a 40 or 55 in the last two weeks, because we advised all of our customers to wait. Why we certainly would have sold the customer a projector, we at least gave them the choice and all of them decided to wait.
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Old Corps, the Epson 3010 might be rated at 2,200 lumens with a brand new lamp in Dynamic mode, it does not put out that much in Cinema mode (1,300 lumens), especially with the lamp on Eco (974 lumens), and my experience is that the 3010 lamp dims quickly and noticeably. The Sony puts out 1,500 lumens or greater in pretty much every mode. See the following test results:

http://www.projectorreviews.com/sony...performance-1/
http://www.projectorcentral.com/epso...ge=Performance

Thanks for the reply and links. Much appreciated!


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Can anyone let me know how this projector would do with ambient light? I was looking at the epson home cinema 3500 but now with the sale price of the HW40ES falling below $2000 makes this a very good option. I am however, worried about the lumens @ 1700. I want to make sure I would be able to still see a good picture with some ambient light in the room. How would this projector perform in a room with some ambient light? Videos or pictures would be helpful.
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That concerns me as well. My lowly Epson 3010 is rated @ 2200 lumens.


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Rated and what they will do calibrated are two different things. As an example the 5030 is rated at 2,400 lumens. Calibrated it has less than 700 lumens. Look at calibrated best mode: http://www.projectorreviews.com/epso...tion-best-mode The HW40 in calibrated best image mode has around 1,500 lumens. http://www.projectorreviews.com/sony...ess-calibrated That is as many lumens as you can get out of the 5030 in calibrated dynamic mode. http://www.projectorreviews.com/epso...ic-1487-lumens So if looking for a projector with a lot of lumens to fight ambient light, there is nothing out there at the Sony's price point that can beat it for calibrated lumens.
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I concur that the HW40 is excellent in ambient light. It has very high calibrated lumens. Also, it has two modes (Bright Cinema and Bright TV) that use a bright color palette and "contrast enhancement" specifically for cutting through ambient light. It works really well.

Bright cinema gives blues and yellows a neon look, so it's not really accurate, but I think it suits SDTV really well, because it resembles a CRT set with the color control too high, a common occurrence when CRTs were the thing.

Oh, I installed new speakers and a new screen a few days ago. While I'm posting...

Here is the Sony in low mode with bright ambient light (almost full sunlight, indirect from windows on the right):


Here it is in moderate ambient light (kitchen light to the right is on):



Here is a closer image with moderate ambient light:


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I concur that the HW40 is excellent in ambient light. It has very high calibrated lumens. Also, it has two modes (Bright Cinema and Bright TV) that use a bright color palette and "contrast enhancement" specifically for cutting through ambient light. It works really well.

Bright cinema gives blues and yellows a neon look, so it's not really accurate, but I think it suits SDTV really well, because it resembles a CRT set with the color control too high, a common occurrence when CRTs were the thing.

Oh, I installed new speakers and a new screen a few days ago. While I'm posting...

Here is the Sony in low mode with bright ambient light (almost full sunlight, indirect from windows on the right):


Here it is in moderate ambient light (kitchen light to the right is on):



Here is a closer image with moderate ambient light:

Would you mind taking a picture like the first one you posted (bright ambient light) and put the projector on the brightest setting? Is there a big difference from low mode?
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Would you mind taking a picture like the first one you posted (bright ambient light) and put the projector on the brightest setting? Is there a big difference from low mode?
Yes, I can take one tomorrow morning (I won't be home during the sunlight until then)... It does make a difference.
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I have some information about the XPAND RF transmitter. I emailed the company to ask when I could buy it in the US, and this is what they said:

It is already available. Will be on Amazon in about 2-3 weeks, but if you need it before that you can order directly from us. You will also need RJ45 to VESA 3D Sycn converter cable if you are using it with SONY projectors.
Here is what you need:

1 unit of AD025-RF-X1 (RF/Bluetooth emitter) @ $195
1 unit of CAB_AD025RF_10 (RJ45 to VESA 3D Sync converter) @ $20


They will do sales right now via PayPal. I don't want to put the PayPal email in here to save them from spam--if you want it, PM me, or contact them directly.

I will have one pair of Sony glasses from the sale bundle, and I ordered one PS3 version too. I plan to see how it goes with IR glasses at first, and get the XPAND TX if I have to. I suppose these is no reason I can't use both kinds at the same time, if I have to seat a lot of people.


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If you purchased in the last two weeks, your dealer should have known about the sale. We have not sold a 40 or 55 in the last two weeks, because we advised all of our customers to wait. Why we certainly would have sold the customer a projector, we at least gave them the choice and all of them decided to wait.
I called Mike last week with my credit card in my hand, he was nice enough to say I should wait a week to save some money.

That's the kind of thing that brings repeat customers.

Thanks Mike, I'm excited about getting a new projector. I'm working on the room now, we just moved here recently and previously had a dedicated theater room. Now we are going to try and make the formal dining room into our theater room.
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I concur that the HW40 is excellent in ambient light. It has very high calibrated lumens. Also, it has two modes (Bright Cinema and Bright TV) that use a bright color palette and "contrast enhancement" specifically for cutting through ambient light. It works really well.

Bright cinema gives blues and yellows a neon look, so it's not really accurate, but I think it suits SDTV really well, because it resembles a CRT set with the color control too high, a common occurrence when CRTs were the thing.

Oh, I installed new speakers and a new screen a few days ago. While I'm posting...
What kind of screen is that?
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Would you mind taking a picture like the first one you posted (bright ambient light) and put the projector on the brightest setting? Is there a big difference from low mode?
If you are running in this bright environment have you considered a big screen TV?
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