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Optoma HD161X

WTF are they playing at with all these models?


http://www.projectorshop24.co.uk/opt...optoma-hd161x/


http://www.projection-homecinema.fr/...-full-hd-999e/


http://translate.google.co.uk/transl...21%26bih%3D565
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So 161 is the same as hd50 and 141 is the same as hd26 and 151 is the same as hd36? Just different retail places?
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I am still trying to work that out lol.
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Optoma HD161xOptoma HD161x

Looks like this model is hitting store shelves soon. It can be purchased for $1283.95 at one .com site. Amazon is now listing it also, but at a much higher price of $2599.00, I hope that this is just a place holder for Amazon. I believe that Amazon is just showing the msrp price, as the msrp for the HD26 is $1400.00 but Amazon actually sells it for about $700.00. So, if they follow suit, the actual price should be around $1300.00, and at that price, the Optoma HD161x will be a serious contender for my wallet.. I also want to see the HD151x and HD36 before I follow through though, may drop to purchasing one of those, just waiting for reviews to start coming in for these three models.
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So 161 is the same as hd50 and 141 is the same as hd26 and 151 is the same as hd36? Just different retail places?
Hopefully they 161 is not exactly like the HD50. They have said that is pushing 130ms input lag. That would be disappointing.
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So 161 is the same as hd50 and 141 is the same as hd26 and 151 is the same as hd36? Just different retail places?
No, I do not believe that they can be the same. If you read the specs on the HD50 and the HD161x you will immediately see that the contrast ratio of the HD50 states 50,000:1 and the HD161x states 40,000:1. The HD26 list the contrast ratio as 25,000:1 and the HD141x list it as 20,000:1. So, there will be differences , however small.
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Not necessarily. The HD25e has a rated contrast of 20,000:1, while the HD131xe is rated for 18,000:1. No one has ever been able to find any difference between the two (they even use the same firmware), and contrast numbers are so bogus anyways, it appears to be more positioning the projectors for different markets - the double digits for custom installers, and the triple digits for retail channel.
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preorder on Amazon
http://www.amazon.com/Optoma-HD161X-...s=ptoma+HD161X

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Looks like this is available now from Adorama for $1,299.00
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Hey be careful with these models. There doing what CE projectors do best. They are using the same internals, but upticking the price because it uses a glass lens like it should have in the first place. The vast majority of CE projectors use polycarbonate plastic for their lens material, yes eve Sony and JVC does this. If it was priced at $1,100.00, i would buy one.

"All glass, multi-coated lens with vertical lens shift and 1.5X zoom ratio for superior focus and installation flexibility."

And the payoff is never certain: Some observers contend that a generation has already been trained to be content with the small screen.

Some servers can do non-encrypted playback to an A/V projector, but it's just a ridiculously expensive media player if you don't have a cinema projector.
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This model looks intriguing, sort of Optoma's version of the BenQ W1500 minus the WHDMI but with a longer-throw lens.

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Amazon has the HD161x in stock now. They have also lowered the price to $1299.00, more inline with the price I've seen on other sites. They claim to only have two left and more on the way, perhaps we will start to see some owners reviewing this one soon.
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I just received my sample yesterday :

http://www.projection-homecinema.fr/...un-futur-test/

The HD161X is the online version of the HD50.

Review will be online in a couple of days.
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For what it's worth:
I've been comparing the Optoma HD161x against the Benq HT1075 today. First of all - both units are very, very nice.
I've been using an Optoma HD33 for the past year and a half. I wanted a back-up projector since we use the HD33 for every day TV viewing.
At this point, the HD161X appears to be a brighter version of the HD33, with slightly smoother motion. After setting up both projectors using the suggested settings, these units provide almost identical images - even in a side-by-side split screen comparison. I've viewed HD TV (satellite - 1080i) as well as Blu Ray discs. The Benq appears only slightly brighter than the HD161x. Depending on the scene, one can't even notice the difference.
I'm sort of torn as to which product I'm going to keep. Accounting for the extended warranties, the Optoma will run me an extra ~$175 over the Benq.
I don't know what Benq's customer service is like. I have dealt with Optom and they were great to deal with. I'm assuming (hoping) the HD161x and HD33 handle the same 3D glasses/emitter in case I decide to go that route.
I plan to keep comparing the units over the next few days before deciding. It's going to be a tough decision.
Keep in mind - I have no equipment to take measurements and I'm no technical "wiz" with respect to HT Projectors.
Just one man's impression.
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Please try using the RF 3D if you can and make some views about the flickering(none or some,etc).I'm very sensitive to it or just an opinion generally in 3D would be great.Thanks.
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I plan to keep comparing the units over the next few days before deciding.
Could you please do a quick comparison between the two regarding the amount of chromatic distortion of their lenses?

For example, projecting a 3 meters wide image (even on a wall, if your screen is not that big) and see if the off-centre convergence is way off? I am very unhappy with my w1070 in this regard but people here say we cannot expect much better than this at these price levels, and i have been wandering if the 161x would be a better option...

My thanks in anticipation!
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I don't have 3D glasses/emitter at this time, so I can't check for flickering in RF 3D mode - sorry.
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Would be glad to check for chromatic distortion but you'll have to provide me with more details as to what I need to do and what I need to look for.
Does this relate to colour fringing?

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I too am considering this model.

I think if you project the white grid test pattern and look for color fringing at the edges that would tell yesgray what he wants to know.
How are menus? The level indicators on my HD25 are way too bright to allow brightness and contrast adjustments using a PLUGE pattern.
Can you do a reset and check to see if the lamp hours are also reset. That was a bug in the HD25.

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you'll have to provide me with more details as to what I need to do and what I need to look for.
Does this relate to colour fringing?
Yes.

When I arrive home I will post a test image for that. Thanks!
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With respect to Reset - there's a Lamp reset: System > Lamp Settings > Lamp Reset and there's a general Reset: Setup > Reset which resets everything to factory settings but does not affect lamp hours.
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FYI - the grid test pattern on the HD161X is green. I don't think it's as useful as the white grid pattern I'm used to. Can't detect any fringing.
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I'm also curious about the time it takes to lock into the HDMI signal.
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I have a SONY STR-DN1050 feeding the HD161X an HD signal (via HDMI). It takes 7 seconds for the projector to lock onto the signal.
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FYI - the grid test pattern on the HD161X is green. I don't think it's as useful as the white grid pattern I'm used to. Can't detect any fringing.
Any chance of you connecting a computer to the projectors? There are a few images you could output from a computer, now from a Blu-ray player I don't know, because I only use my PC to watch everything...
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FYI - the grid test pattern on the HD161X is green. I don't think it's as useful as the white grid pattern I'm used to. Can't detect any fringing.
Bakesy,

We're seeing reports on the HD-50 thread that there may be some extra "noise" in the image that shouldn't be there. As one poster noted that the HD-50 is equivalent to the HD161X, did you see any unusual "junk" in the image when viewing it next to the BenQ?
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I can't hook up a computer - sorry.
All my viewing is from Blu Ray or Sat. TV.
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I haven't seen any extra noise in the images. The PQ is very good. The quality is pretty much on par with the Benq HT1075. The only difference, so far, is accurate colour.
It was easier to get accurate colour out of the BenQ vs. the Optoma. Having said that, I used the settings posted on the forums for both units and I'm sure there's some level of variation from unit to unit. The Optoma likes to push a lot of RED and sometimes I notice a bit extra green with the BenQ. So far, accurate skin tone seems to be better on the BenQ.
I watch a lot of NHL Hockey during the season and I believe that the fast action and white ice surface is a good test for projectors (or any TV) so I compared the units using games on my PVR. They are pretty much even and the PQ is again, very good. Please note that I am not overly Tech. savvy but I am very picky when it comes to image quality. Over the past few months, I have viewed the Optoma HD25-LV, Optoma HD131x, Optoma HD25e, BenQ W1070, Epson 2030 and now the HD161X and HT1075.

Optoma HD131X: nice bright, crisp picture but motion was not smooth enough. In fact, the motion (+slight flickering) bothered my eyes.

Optoma HD25-LV: very crisp/very bright image that absolutely popped. Unfortunately, it again bothered my eyes to the point that it gave me a headache after viewing for only 10 min. This really disappointed me b/c I loved the bright image. My guess is that the choice of colour wheels in these units was the cause of my problems.

Optoma HD25e: decent image but not overly bright. It didn't have the "pop" that the other projectors had.

BenQ W1070: very nice image - the colours "popped". I was happy with it but the throw distance didn't work with my setup at that time.

Epson 2030: decent image but the motion wasn't smooth enough - again throw dist. didn't work.
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