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Panasonic PT-AE8000U now $1,650 new - No brainer bargain?

For a while I have been on the fence and decided to buy a stop-gap as a new generation of budget HT projectors are clearly going to arrive within about 18 months. All 4K, LCos with 480Hz 3D etc.

Today I see ProjectorPeople have lowered the Panasonic PT-AE8000U to $2K. Could this mean a new model is about to be announced. If not a 5030, HW-40 seem or maybe even the brand new Epson 3000 seem decent stop-gaps. I would hate to order one today and a AE9000U be announced this week.

Only coming here every few years when upgrading something I am pretty clueless. About a month ago I ordered a HW-40 but the (shady?) NJ dealer ended up not coming through on the deal.

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Panasonic from what most say is out of the HT projector marker. So no their will ne new Panny's. Thats why the sell. Getting rid of them. Not a bad price for a decent HT projector. It is a 2012 model and not as good as the Epson 5030 or Sony hw40. If the Sony would go on sell again for $2k I would much rather have it. Pannys have always had dustblob issues. Plus if their done with HT how is support going to be if their is a problem.
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Seeing a big player like Panasonic leaving the market is a serious bummer. 2000 dollars for an ae8000 is a great price for an awesome machine. I know the numbers say the 5030 is better, but if you demoed these two side by side, you'd see that both projectors are superb, and it would be tough to say one is better over the other. And for the CIH screen owner on a budget, the ae8000 really is a no brainer. Panasonic is a big company that's not going anywhere anytime soon, but I do agree that warranty coverage could become a problem.
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I looked up the $350 Mail-in-rebate offer to see if it's still going and it runs until the end of the month (September 30). ProjectorPeople is an authorized seller so no problems there. That means you can get the Panasonic PT-AE8000U for $1650 if you order it within the next two weeks.

Sounds like a bargain to me!

I can't link the rebate form as this is only my 4th post but if you Google "panasonic pt-ae8000u mail in rebate" it'll be the first link (PDF).
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Panasonic from what most say is out of the HT projector marker.

We really need a reputable source for that claim, or people need to stop saying it.


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theXecutioner: You Rock! I just pulled the trigger. With the $350 rebate it almost feels like a free projector after being on the fence over $4K JVCs.
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I can't find projector people on panasonic's website as an authorized dealer or projector central.
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I can't find projector people on panasonic's website as an authorized dealer or projector central.
Too see authorized dealers, go to panasonic.com and navigate to that projector and click on "Buy Now". You can see ProjectorPeople on there.

I took the plunge too. Can't beat that price. Even if there is a new one coming, it will be priced at $1000 more.
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I just call Panasonic # 1-866-795-3383 and was told the $350. rebate was cancel Friday 9/12/14. Panasonic just lower the price to $1,999.

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Not sure how they could cancel the rebate when it clearly says through 9/30.
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The rebate is cancelled' The new sell price of $1999 reflects that. Also Projector People is a top notch seller also forum sponsor since forever. They are great.
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The rebate is cancelled' The new sell price of $1999 reflects that. Also Projector People is a top notch seller also forum sponsor since forever. They are great.

Where are you hearing the rebate is cancelled?

The rebate form is still listed on Panasonic's own website and clearly it states that if you purchase prior to 9/30/14 you qualify for it. Link below.

http://www.panasonic.com/business-so...m%20Rebate.pdf
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Sometimes, with big companies like Panasonic, the right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing. The right hand lowered prices, forgetting that the left hand had a rebate program in place. Since the link to the rebate form has been removed, both hands seem to be aware of each other again.
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Bummer...Guess I'm back to getting an 8350
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For $1650 the Panasonic 8000 would be hard to beat. I had several Panasonics and enjoyed them all. At 2k, however, you start running into B Stock Sony's that start around $2500 and B Stock JVC's around $3k. That is a much tougher decision. Scoring a B Stock HW50 or 55es for around 2 1/2 would seem to get you a better projector.

I've not messed around with the HW40 or the 5030, but the Panny 8000 would compare well to these models.
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Sometimes, with big companies like Panasonic, the right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing. The right hand lowered prices, forgetting that the left hand had a rebate program in place. Since the link to the rebate form has been removed, both hands seem to be aware of each other again.
Glad I downloaded it already. The rebate clearly states until Sept 30th.

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I'm wondering if they won't honor it though because the rebate says it cannot be combined with any other offer. The $1999 sale price could be considered another offer I'm guessing.
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I'm wondering if they won't honor it though because the rebate says it cannot be combined with any other offer. The $1999 sale price could be considered another offer I'm guessing.
If 2000 dollars is the new permanent retail price, they should honor the rebate. If it's a temporary sale price, they may not. We need clarification.
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Bummer...Guess I'm back to getting an 8350
Get an 8345. It's the same as the 8350 with a lower price. I've tested them both side by side. Pay no attention to the stated specs.
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If 2000 dollars is the new permanent retail price, they should honor the rebate. If it's a temporary sale price, they may not. We need clarification.
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I just call Panasonic # 1-866-795-3383 and was told the $350. rebate was cancel Friday 9/12/14. Panasonic just lower the price to $1,999.
On the rebate form line #11 , it states that Panasonic can cancel the rebate at any time.
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I just talked to Projector People. I have a sales rep their I have used for years. Panasonic will not honor the rebate for those buying the 8000 for the $2k price. Only those who bought it before at the previous price. You will not get the rebate. Sorry to burst your bubble. They should have the new Epson line soon and the 3500 with 70000 to one contrasts and 3d and lens shift might be a great deal at around $1600.
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That is ridiculous if they don't honor the rebate. I purchased this last night from B&H. for $1999 only because I had the rebate form that said it was good till 9/30. B&H website doesn't say the $1999 is a special offer but just the regular price. This is bad business practice if they arbitrarily cancel a rebate because they screwed up and lowered the price before the rebate was expired. How is anyone supposed to know that a rebate has been "cancelled" before they purchase. Do they have to expect everyone to call anytime there is a rebate to see if they cancelled it before purchase. They can pay for my return shipping!!
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Sometimes, with big companies like Panasonic, the right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing. The right hand lowered prices, forgetting that the left hand had a rebate program in place. Since the link to the rebate form has been removed, both hands seem to be aware of each other again.
Exactly. The same thing happened with the Panasonic PT-AR100U when it was introduced. The price was lowered at the same time that the rebate was issued. A few fortunate ones were able to get the lower price AND rebate but that was not the way it was intended. Once Panasonic and the authorized dealers figured out what was going on it was corrected quickly.

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Exactly. The same thing happened with the Panasonic PT-AR100U when it was introduced. The price was lowered at the same time that the rebate was issued. A few fortunate ones were able to get the lower price AND rebate but that was not the way it was intended. Once Panasonic and the authorized dealers figured out what was going on it was corrected quickly.
Yup, a company like Panasonic is going to honor their mistakes.
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If 2000 dollars is the new permanent retail price, they should honor the rebate. If it's a temporary sale price, they may not. We need clarification.
It's a temporary sale price until all units are sold out. It's a common occurrence in the retail world. You have a long-running rebate with wording on the rebate that specifies that it cannot be combined with any other offer. You decide to stop producing the product and want to sell out stock quickly so you lower the price below what it was with the rebate. A few people always think they can combine the rebate with the new offer even when it states on the rebate that you can't. It always hurts when you only end up with only a good bargain instead of a great one. But Panasonic did nothing that isn't done by reputable companies all the time.
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It's a temporary sale price until all units are sold out. It's a common occurrence in the retail world. You have a long-running rebate with wording on the rebate that specifies that it cannot be combined with any other offer. You decide to stop producing the product and want to sell out stock quickly so you lower the price below what it was with the rebate. A few people always think they can combine the rebate with the new offer even when it states on the rebate that you can't. It always hurts when you only end up with only a good bargain instead of a great one. But Panasonic did nothing that isn't done by reputable companies all the time.
The only problem problem is how do you know when you purchase it, its a temporary sale and that its in lieu of the rebate? Also how do you define as "cannot be combined with any other offer"? The price had already been lower than MSRP and people have been able to redeem their rebates previously. The websites that are selling them are not marketing it as a sale (such as B&H). The bottom line is just because the terms of the rebate have an ambiguous clause that allows them to cancel the rebate basically at will, its disingenuous to honor the rebate at x price but not at y price just because they can and without explicit stating anywhere they are doing so. On top of this the prior pricing was $1899 (2250 - 350 rebate), so it was cheaper before the latest pricing without a rebate.

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A very misleading ad that gives you the impression you can get one for 1650. The rebate banner has been removed. Not honoring rebates may be Panasonic's right, but it will turn off customers desire to ever purchase from Panasonic ever again. Panasonic should nip this PR blunder in the bud and just honor the rebates. Is pissing off potential customers really worth the small amount of money they'll lose? This type of careless behavior makes me think Panasonic doesn't care anymore.
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im not sure but is there another lamp inside th box ..
as they mention in th projector people..

( Included in the Box )
Power Cord
Wireless Remote Control Unit
Batteries for Remote Control
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Original factory lamp(s) included
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