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hotpepper007 09-25-2014 06:03 AM

EPSON 5020ub-R
 
This is a tread about the 5020ub refurbished units. I just bought one from PP for a great price. I was going back and forth between the Sony hw40 and 5030. But with 4k and laser right around the corner I did not want to spend a fortune but did want a uprade of 3d abd better blacks over my 3 year old 8350.

Got the projector hook uo last night late' fedx did not drop it off intill 7:30 pm est. I was tired but got it hook up. I got to see my friends new 5030 last week but his room is not light controlled yet. My room is a bat cave. My demo of his 5030 showed that the 5030 was better but I was a little leary. But last night in my room the difference in the 8350 and 5020ub was huge' not even close. the pic just looks different for the better. The blacks are in another class. Space scenes are black black. Colors look better and sharpness was good. Plus my darbee added its touch. 3d was excellent but I get black outs every few minutes' this is a darbee issue and my cables. With darbee out it was fine. I will try some other cables ti fix this. The menu show 0 hours on the bulb and all seems fine. For $1799 I think one cant go wrong with this deal. Time will tell about problems but Epson 2 years warranty I do not worry. Plus in 2 year I will upgrade to hopefully 4k. Will post more info later. Any other 5030 ub- r feel free to post your info on this great deal. Thanks :D

Verge2 09-25-2014 11:32 AM

Better be danged cheap unless they state the light engine has been replaced.

hotpepper007 09-25-2014 01:36 PM

What do you know about it. Their are so many Epson bashers on this forum that it's not funny. I know many with 3 to 4 year old 5020's with no problems. Yes you here about problems now and then but that is because Epson out sells all the others combine. Use to be Panny years ago with their HT line. Thousands of 5020 were sold. Yes the price is very good for this level of projector. If you have something to contribute to the thread fine if not go away.:rolleyes:

Verge2 09-25-2014 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by hotpepper007 (Post 27713865)
What do you know about it. Their are so many Epson bashers on this forum that it's not funny. I know many with 3 to 4 year old 5020's with no problems. Yes you here about problems now and then but that is because Epson out sells all the others combine. Use to be Panny years ago with their HT line. Thousands of 5020 were sold. Yes the price is very good for this level of projector. If you have something to contribute to the thread fine if not go away.:rolleyes:

Polarizer a wear out, period.

I wouldn't buy a refurb unless it was certain they had been replaced. I'm terrible sorry you can't handle that fact.

hotpepper007 09-25-2014 02:31 PM

I know many who have refurbs 5 years old. You suffer from paranoia. If something does break Epson sends a replacement within 48 hours. Whats to lose. :rolleyes:

garywade1978 09-26-2014 03:24 AM

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I am also looking at the same deal. About to pull the trigger. Are you happy with the overall picture? Can you post some pictures maybe a video. With 4k about 3 years till becomes more main stream, I didnt want to break the bank. This deal looks great.

hotpepper007 09-26-2014 05:14 AM

The pic is stunning. If you never seen a Epson 5030 or 5020 ub in a light controlled room then you will in for a treat. I been use to my 8350 which has a great pic' most would say great. But the contrast of a ub projector is really nice. I read many reviews of refurb units and most all were very please. i do not have time for pic right now plus I am not worth a dam at taking proper ones. Watch the new Godzilla last night which is a very dark movie and the UB really helps in those dark scenes. 3d on this thing is the best I have seen. I have a 60in led up stairs and this is good as that 3d. I do not think one can go wrong with this deal.

garywade1978 09-26-2014 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by hotpepper007 (Post 27730746)
The pic is stunning. If you never seen a Epson 5030 or 5020 ub in a light controlled room then you will in for a treat. I been use to my 8350 which has a great pic' most would say great. But the contrast of a ub projector is really nice. I read many reviews of refurb units and most all were very please. i do not have time for pic right now plus I am not worth a dam at taking proper ones. Watch the new Godzilla last night which is a very dark movie and the UB really helps in those dark scenes. 3d on this thing is the best I have seen. I have a 60in led up stairs and this is good as that 3d. I do not think one can go wrong with this deal.

I pulled the trigger and ordered it thru Visual Apex. 120" screen package. I just wish I could hook it up now... Thanks for a great post, I was on the fence with buying it.

Verge2 09-27-2014 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by garywade1978 (Post 27730106)
I am also looking at the same deal. About to pull the trigger. Are you happy with the overall picture? Can you post some pictures maybe a video. With 4k about 3 years till becomes more main stream, I didnt want to break the bank. This deal looks great.

3 years, what world are you living in.

Verge2 09-27-2014 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by hotpepper007 (Post 27715697)
I know many who have refurbs 5 years old. You suffer from paranoia. If something does break Epson sends a replacement within 48 hours. Whats to lose. :rolleyes:

It's not paranoia, it's a documented problem with all LCD projectors. It's unavoidable.

hotpepper007 09-27-2014 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Verge2 (Post 27759362)
It's not paranoia, it's a documented problem with all LCD projectors. It's unavoidable.

I ask you nicely to not post here unless you have something positive to add.:rolleyes:

garywade1978 10-13-2014 07:13 PM

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I finally installed the projector, the picture is absolutely beautiful. Thanks for posting your experience, it made me buy the package.

dslunceford 10-14-2014 06:19 AM

Does the 5020 have memory for different custom mode set ups (e.g. TV vs Movie vs Game)?

I typically like to tweak for different viewing situations, and my current PJ has memory modes that make it easy to save and switch between modes as needed.

tellcity99 10-14-2014 08:20 AM

I also just got a 5020 from PP ' also upgraded from a 8350' Big step up in pic quality. Blacks are so much deeper and contrast is amazing . Yes you can set up different calibratings for different inputs and save to memory. I also saw a hw40 and it has great pic as well. Both are a step over the giant killer 8350.

dslunceford 10-14-2014 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by tellcity99 (Post 28208794)
Yes you can set up different calibratings for different inputs and save to memory.

Thanks! Appreciate the info and the feedback overall on the refurb/b-stock...I'm now throwing the Sony VPL-HW40ES into consideration as well. See it as low as $1,799 (though not familiar with the vendor), and slightly higher from Abe's of Maine, which I have ordered items from in the past. PP also puts stuff on sale regularly, so could be an option there also.

Modicen 10-14-2014 07:55 PM

I bought my 5020ub refurb six months ago and absolutely love it. Bought it at Visual Apex and couldn't be happier.

garywade1978 10-29-2014 07:07 PM

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Just have to update on what a great projector this is. Thanks for all the great advice. Nothing like watching a Patriots game on a 10 foot screen.

rshetts 10-31-2014 08:28 AM

Im on the fence here. Im replacing my projector and am looking at several options. My question is: Is the 5020 refurb worth the extra $500-$600 cost over units like the Home Cinema 3000 or the BenQ 1075? Im not concerned about Visual Apex, Im used them before and they have been great, just wondering if the 5020 is worth it over the newer models.

TH3_FRB 11-29-2014 10:21 PM

Just got mine hooked up with a 120" VApex screen. This is my first PJ but I have to say that I'm not blown away yet. I've tinkered with the focus but no matter what the pic still looks soft. My primary set is a 5 year old Samsung pn58C8000 plasma. Am I expecting too much that the PJ match the crispness of the plasma?

cocytus 11-30-2014 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by TH3_FRB (Post 29457810)
Just got mine hooked up with a 120" VApex screen. This is my first PJ but I have to say that I'm not blown away yet. I've tinkered with the focus but no matter what the pic still looks soft. My primary set is a 5 year old Samsung pn58C8000 plasma. Am I expecting too much that the PJ match the crispness of the plasma?

I have the same projector but with a seymore AT screen. My picture is pretty sharp. I would check 3 things. The first is that your projector is completely parallel to your screen. Second make sure that your pixel alignment isn't way out of convergence. Third is to adjust your focus to make sure that the pixels are completely sharp. I find that a pair of binoculars helps when adjusting the focus.

TH3_FRB 11-30-2014 08:54 AM

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Screen should be good. I haven't played with the panel alignment yet but I can see a green border to and some "glow" with the white menu text. Best I can adjust the focus I can't get the pixels completely sharp. The focus wheel isn't very precise but even as I was going back and forth across the focus I never saw it get completely sharp.

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Originally Posted by cocytus (Post 29459866)
I have the same projector but with a seymore AT screen. My picture is pretty sharp. I would check 3 things. The first is that your projector is completely parallel to your screen. Second make sure that your pixel alignment isn't way out of convergence. Third is to adjust your focus to make sure that the pixels are completely sharp. I find that a pair of binoculars helps when adjusting the focus.


TH3_FRB 11-30-2014 11:39 AM

One thing I now feel confident in saying is that something isn't right. I'm sitting in a sports bar with a fair amount of ambient light watching a game on a cheap pull-down screen from probably a $500 PJ and it is significantly more satisfying than what I saw last night at home. The colors are reasonably bright and saturated and the image is pretty crisp considering the circumstances. Bottom line - this looks better than my 5020 in a dark room.

William L Carman 11-30-2014 11:57 AM

You might be!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TH3_FRB (Post 29457810)
Just got mine hooked up with a 120" VApex screen. This is my first PJ but I have to say that I'm not blown away yet. I've tinkered with the focus but no matter what the pic still looks soft. My primary set is a 5 year old Samsung pn58C8000 plasma. Am I expecting too much that the PJ match the crispness of the plasma?

I have had an Epson 5030UB for just over a year now. This is my fifth front projector
in many years. I recently compared its
projected image to that of a five year old
Sony 52" LCD, and the LCD image looked
much sharper than the Epsons's on a Blu-ray paused image. I don't think that we are comparing "apples to apples" here. As
a former professional photographer, I can't help wondering just how sharp the
projector' lens can be, considering how expensive still camera lenses are. Video projection still is the answer for those of us who want really BIG images, though!

TH3_FRB 11-30-2014 12:09 PM

Yeah - but something just isn't right. I see people regularly saying how sharp their 5020/5030 is and how the image pops. Mine doesn't even approach on that. Right now I'm watching a cheap pj in a not so ideal environment and it's noticeably better than my current unit. l'll work on the panel alignment a bit but I'm leaning towards just getting a replacement.

cocytus 11-30-2014 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by TH3_FRB (Post 29470705)
Yeah - but something just isn't right. I see people regularly saying how sharp their 5020/5030 is and how the image pops. Mine doesn't even approach on that. Right now I'm watching a cheap pj in a not so ideal environment and it's noticeably better than my current unit. l'll work on the panel alignment a bit but I'm leaning towards just getting a replacement.

If it was me I would just call up epson. It sounds like you might have a panel aalignment problem.


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