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post #31 of 1561 Old 11-19-2014, 11:08 AM
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Holy moly man, laserdisc! That's cool. I used to have quite a pile of them too. You must have some rare stuff to keep that beast around--the modern formats just blow it away. But back in the days of VHS, we lived like kings, eh?
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Yes I have a few things. Mainly I have a anime series that I helped fund back in the day.

I had the option to get it on VHS or laserdisk so I went with the disk. I even have my name in the credits!

Of course they promised there would never be a DVD version...eventually there was.
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Impressions on Reality Creation (RC)? I'm having a love/hate relationship with it right now. I mostly leave it OFF but lately the soft image of the Sony has me wanting a little more...well, reality.

Those of you who are using it, what level do you have it set at? I had it at 20 and just lowered it to 10 but even then, colors appear more "grayed out" and don't pop as much as when it's OFF.

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Impressions on Reality Creation (RC)? I'm having a love/hate relationship with it right now. I mostly leave it OFF but lately the soft image of the Sony has me wanting a little more...well, reality.

Those of you who are using it, what level do you have it set at? I had it at 20 and just lowered it to 10 but even then, colors appear more "grayed out" and don't pop as much as when it's OFF.

Any thoughts?
I was not crazy about RC either. I wanted the Oppo 103 so I paid the extra to get the 103D (Darbee version) which does a much nicer job. With that said, I also wasn't thrilled with the Epson 5030 firmware upgrade that is similar to Sony's RC. I know that doesn't help you with your settings but the little I did use it, the less the better.
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Impressions on Reality Creation (RC)? I'm having a love/hate relationship with it right now. I mostly leave it OFF but lately the soft image of the Sony has me wanting a little more...well, reality.

Those of you who are using it, what level do you have it set at? I had it at 20 and just lowered it to 10 but even then, colors appear more "grayed out" and don't pop as much as when it's OFF.

Any thoughts?
You better check your pj for alignment on convergence. My 1st Sony 40es was like yours now. Since I got the new one it has perfect convergence and I don't need the Reality Creation on at all and its crisp.
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Without RC my picture is good and much better than my previous DLP 720p projector.
with RC it can be ridiculously sharp.
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Thanks for the suggestions. After fiddling with it over the weekend I've decided to just leave RC OFF.

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Thanks for the suggestions. After fiddling with it over the weekend I've decided to just leave RC OFF.
I use Reality Creation at around 10 with my Sony Blu Ray player. I like the detail it adds and I like the implementation of the 'Test' feature to see if it's adding noise.

I was thinking of this thread when I posted this in the 'other' vpl-hw40es thread:

"I was blown away by this PJ in 'Reference Mode', out of the box. Then I tried the settings in the www.Kalibrate.co.uk (v2) PDF linked earlier, including the 21 settings under Real Color Processing, and they make this thing really stellar. Now it seems factory 'Reference' looks sad! YMMV."

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In all seriousness chromapure settings made reds oversatured, overall image darker. Reference mode looks far stellar on mine with accurate colors. Perhaps it has something to do with the screen material. I would not think that measured settings that chromapure posted looked that red to the calibrator when he posted. No way.

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I use Reality Creation at around 10 with my Sony Blu Ray player. I like the detail it adds and I like the implementation of the 'Test' feature to see if it's adding noise.

I was thinking of this thread when I posted this in the 'other' vpl-hw40es thread:

"I was blown away by this PJ in 'Reference Mode', out of the box. Then I tried the settings in the www.Kalibrate.co.uk (v2) PDF linked earlier, including the 21 settings under Real Color Processing, and they make this thing really stellar. Now it seems factory 'Reference' looks sad! YMMV."

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You have to use the calibrating software and a meter on your own setup...each setup will calibrate different.
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I like to try settings that have worked on a pro calibration, just to see if they might work on my setup. This is the third PJ that I have had success with using a reviewers settings! Of course I don't hesitate to make further adjustments to suit my taste. Maybe I've been lucky or maybe there is more consistency to PJs than people generally acknowledge.

The 'chromapure' settings are just slightly warmer, but richer and more accurate overall than out of box reference is on my DIY silver cloth screen. I could not dial it in that well using my eye and my old DVE setup DVD.

I sure am glad I seem to have a good unit; if I didn't I would expect Sony to send me another with no excuses!

Good luck to all with getting things dialed in!
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When you start messing with the CMS you can really start killing lumens when using the colour brightness so just be careful messing with them (really bad on my W7000 and based on how many lumens that UK chromapure user lost...it seems the HW40 is not much different ). It's pretty tricky and the adjustments you make, your eye can't see, that's why you must use a meter. It's a pretty hard technique to get down as each adjustment seems to affect the other....takes a long time to calibrate. I'm still a novice at it that's why I'm reluctant to use my system...I know if I do I will start changing things that appears to need no changing; that's my OCD.

It's fine to get everything to where your eye likes it but that won't mean it's accurate; which is the purpose of calibrating. I haven't measured yet but will shortly...but I will say this, out of the box the HW40 doesn't look all that different than my JVC that was professionally calibrated. None of the other projectors I've owned came close to looking as good as the HW40 out of the box.

It is a personal preference though...like audio your ears and eyes like what they like. I hate the flat frequency response that most audio people go for...I like more of a house curve. It's not accurate but my ears like it!

Just be careful not to kill them lumens. The biggest advantage of the HW40....good looking lumens!
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Hi Guys,
Anyone using Oppo 103/105 together with their hw40es? Care to share also your Oppo settings... :-)

My hw40es and Oppo 103 will arrive in 2 weeks. Very much excited and see improvements coming from Panasonic Ae7000!!!

Thanks in Advance :-)

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I plugged my oppo in and that was that! might have changed it to 4:4:4 but that might have been my old oppo???

The biggest improvement over the Panasonic will be brightness. The HW40 is a light cannon! (in best mode of course)
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Sony 40es

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I'm having problems getting my projector to fit correctly on my 16x9 100" screen. I'm getting light bleed on the black felt on the outside of the screen. I'm also getting bending inwards at the top of the screen. I think I've tried everything but looking for some answers

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Make sure everything is level and try to use the lens shift as little as possible.
I used a bubble level to get mine lined up and that helped a lot.
my only problem now is I seem to have some focus drift. there's nothing above the projector so i cant figure out what would cause it.
Heck of a nice image though.
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I have focus drift too!

I think focus may change as it warms up, but I'm not positive.
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I hear it creak a bit as it warms up so maybe that's it.
I need to see if I can find a fat rubber band to put on the ring and see if it helps.
I also did use a a few clicks of convergence adjust it was not badly out but I could tell in the test screen at least.
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I do notice a bit of the focus drift as well, not terrible but it is there, however to be clear, it should not be drifting. Typically optical blocks are engineered to stay constant but somehow, I think here Sony made a mistake...


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I have focus drift too!

I think focus may change as it warms up, but I'm not positive.
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I do notice a bit of the focus drift as well, not terrible but it is there, however to be clear, it should not be drifting. Typically optical blocks are engineered to stay constant but somehow, I think here Sony made a mistake...

Maybe its from using the lens cap. Putting it on and taking it off all the time seems like its going to tear the lens shaft up. Sometimes I feel my self pushing the cap on crooked. I wished it had the auto lens door like my Sanyo Z5 had.Plus pulling the cap off it has to be knocking the focus out. Im going to make some kind of cover that just sits over it.
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I simply do not use lens cap. For then reason you stated.

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Maybe its from using the lens cap. Putting it on and taking it off all the time seems like its going to tear the lens shaft up. Sometimes I feel my self pushing the cap on crooked. I wished it had the auto lens door like my Sanyo Z5 had.Plus pulling the cap off it has to be knocking the focus out. Im going to make some kind of cover that just sits over it.
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Same above i got some focus issue ..
also the focus in middel screen is good but at th corners is going soft at th same time !!
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I simply do not use lens cap. For then reason you stated.
same here, I started putting the cap on and off in between use but I always had to readjust the focus and/or shift because its not that easy to slip on and off...a soft cover would be nice

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Same here. No lens cap because it up to high.
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Hw40es black contrast tuning

found this from a German site looks like a real cool tweak.. Sent them an email but no reply so far

PS you may need to google translate the site

http://www.cine4home.de/tests/projek...40_es_test.htm
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I gave up on RC and turned it off. At least on cable/streaming content it seemed to bounce the sharpness around too much. The same with motion flow. My previous projector did not have either feature, and I suppose I am used to it being that way.

I do notice the focus issue when I turn it on, but as it warms up it focuses. So, now I just turn it on 10 minutes early and let it warm up.
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Looking for some feedback on whether it would be acceptable to install the HW40 on the ceiling at 21-22 feet back from a 135" screen. The calculator at projectorcentral.com shows this as the maximum distance for this screen size. What do I give up in pushing it back to it's furthest recommended distance? I've attached 2 photos of my theater room for reference. Thanks!
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What do I give up in pushing it back to it's furthest recommended distance?
In short, brightness.
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I have a 135" 1.0 screen and my PJ is mounted at about 14 ft back.

At this distance, I find the brightness in 3D mode to be totally adequate. Adequate, not eye-poppin' awesome. I'd make it brighter if I could. It simply isn't "IMAX bright" in this configuration.

Based on this experience, I'd be concerned that 21-22 ft might be too far away for pleasing 3D brightness.
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Keystone

Have any of you guys has Keystone issues with the Sony VPL-HW40ES? I am looking at buying one and will be ceiling mounting and read a bad review relating to this on amazon. I currently have a Panasonic PT-AR100 which has keystone control through the remote (electronic?) and have a trapezoid shaped pic would drive me nuts!
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