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Official Sony VPL-HW40ES Owners/Settings Thread

I think enough Owners in the Sony HW-40ES information thread have expressed interest in a dedicated thread where owners can share calibration information, settings, etc.

Hopefully we can get some good information here from hobbyists and professional calibrators alike! I'll post my reference and game settings after I get home tonight. All settings I post will be eye-ball settings using WOW/AVS 709 patterns and a blue filter.

Some information on my setup in the meantime:

-Sony HW40ES projector
-Chief RPMAU ceiling mount w/16" dual joist adapter and 6" 1.5 NPT drop
-Yamaha RX471 5.1 surround receiver and speakers (powered Yamaha subwoofer)
-PS4 for Bluray/gaming
-Uverse STB for TV
-DaLite matte grey 90" pull down screen. Throw distance 9.5 feet (yeah...it's a small space )

EDIT: reference and game mode settings

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Picture Mode: Reference (Bluray & 3D)

Contrast 84
Brightness 55
Color 50
Hue 50
Color temp D65
Cinema Black Pro:low
Advanced > Color Space: BT709 (all others OFF)

Reality Creation > Resolution (default, halfway between Min/Max)
Reality Creation > Noise Filter (20)

3D brightness: 2

All other settings default
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Picture Mode: Game (PS4)

Contrast 78
Brightness 44
Color 50
Hue 50
Color temp D65
Cinema Black Pro:low
Advanced > Color Space: BT709 (all others OFF)


All other settings default
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Great thread, thank you. I'll post some things I found later.
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My room is a small converted spare bedroom, 9.5 x 14 and PJ is 13' from screen, 7' high on a shelf on the back wall. Walls & ceiling are flat black. Screen is a 106" Silver Ticket cine-white.

Here are my settings and personal preferences:

Reference (Auto 2)
Reality Creation ON (but kept low at lvl 5 for both)
Cinema Pro Black - Low (ECO)
Motionflow / Motion Enhance - LOW for TV, Video Games & Movies (and 3D)

Contrast 80
Brightness 52
Color 55
Hue 50
Color Temp. D65
Sharpness 5 (kept low because Reality Creation is turned ON)
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Great thread. I'm a new HW40 owner but not new to PJs.

Mine has OTOB settings so far - all I did was set the lamp to "low". I'm blown away with the colors, sharpness and clarity, SDE being a thing of the past.

But I'd like to tweak it for more black detail.

Shooting from 13' back, ceiling mounted onto a 115" Elunevision AT screen.
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Hello

I'm a owner of a Sony HW40ES.

My setup is at 13.5' from screen and projecting on a ELITE 135" Cinewhite gain 1.1 fixed screen. I'm running on eco on bulb.I have 3 sets of the PS3 3d glasses, they work perfect except they do not reach my seats at 21' from screen. I may buy extender soon.

I have the Sony 3d blue ray player the s5200 (very good player)

Yamaha RX471 5.1 surround receiver with Polk audio speakers.

My zoom is almost maxed. Do you think I need to move it back to around 15ft? For more clear picture.
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Lespaulman your theater is amazing. Very similar to how I would like my own someday.

The center channel speaker sightline would drive the OCD in me crazy lol !

What color is that in person - more gray or green? Its perfect.
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how do you change the bulb setting? I seemed to find everything outside of the bulb setting to high low or eco.

My set up:
Sony HW40ES
Denon X2100w
Sony BDP-S6200 blu-ray
ATT STB (Motorola VIP2250 HD-DVR)


I'm running mainly on Reference right now, what do most use?
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The walls is Sherwin williams, there best flat paint.its called grizzle grey.its a very dark grey.The ceiling is flat black paint.Called Indian black. Thanks for the compliment.
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Thanks OP for creating this thread. There are a few posts in the owners thread with settings but they are so far apart or buried that I have yet to find them again. This will help many people get the most out of the Sony outside of having it calibrated/until having it calibrated.

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I'm in reference right now:


Contrast 80
Brightness 65
Color 53
Hue 50
Color temp D65
lamp high
motion 20
reality creation 20


just toying slightly but that's it. I'd like to tweak it.


On blu-ray the above is awesome. But on HDTV through my ATT Uverse box my wife seems to like Bright TV setting better.


Still tweaking some and interested in others.
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I'm in reference right now:


Contrast 80
Brightness 65
Color 53
Hue 50
Color temp D65
lamp high
motion 20
reality creation 20


just toying slightly but that's it. I'd like to tweak it.


On blu-ray the above is awesome. But on HDTV through my ATT Uverse box my wife seems to like Bright TV setting better.


Still tweaking some and interested in others.
What is the gain of your screen?
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What is the gain of your screen?

It the Carada Brilliant White Criterion, they list it at 1.4 but I think 1.1.
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how do you change the bulb setting? I seemed to find everything outside of the bulb setting to high low or eco.
It's under CINEMA PRO BLACK. I believe the settings are High and Low (Low being ECO)
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It's under CINEMA PRO BLACK. I believe the settings are High and Low (Low being ECO)

found it thanks!!!
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I'll update my original post with settings as soon as I get the chance. Sorry guys, life has been getting in the way lately.

In the meantime does anyone have more detailed information on what the settings under Reality Creation do?

There are 3 settings, 'Resolution' which is Min to Max slider. 'Noise Filter', which I think was set to 20 by default...and I can't recall what the third one is offhand. If anyone can post more information here that would be awesome...I'll see what I can find in the meantime.

BTW, I did mess a little bit with motionflow in 3D mode over the weekend. Once it's moved from OFF to LOW I noticed my RF glasses immediately got darker. I thought that was kind of odd but that may have been a result of the glasses synching with the higher refresh rate. I tried OFF, LOW and HIGH and oddly enough I preferred OFF for Bluray 3D content. I can't say that I noticed a difference or reduction in crosstalk between any of the motionflow settings.

I need more information on what motion flow does as well, I assumed OFF was native refresh, LOW was 120Hz and HIGH was 240Hz but that may not be the case.

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Originally Posted by emartins

Instead of the usual 2 minutes, give her 5 minutes of nothing but that Jeep ecstasy. She will be exhausted and fall right to sleep. You are now free to play.


Thats what I do.

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I'm not positive, but off the top of my head, I believe motion flow inserts black frames so that may cause the dimming with the glasses on.
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Thanks Yonex! Wow, those reference settings came out very close to mine (I only used Disney WoW & AVS 709 basic calibration patterns and a blue filter).

I wondered about 2.4 versus 2.2 gamma correction. Mine is actually currently set to off, but I liked the black level at 2.4. I'm going to have to try some tweaking @ 2.4 to see if I come up with something close to your ChromaPure results.

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Instead of the usual 2 minutes, give her 5 minutes of nothing but that Jeep ecstasy. She will be exhausted and fall right to sleep. You are now free to play.


Thats what I do.

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I want to know what you did to kill all the lumens from this projector.? Lowering the colour gains really kill that many lumens? My understanding is that the HW40 is much brighter than the HW55, your results show the exact opposite!

Another reason I don't want to use my calibrating software on my projector!
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https://www.avforums.com/threads/son...tings.1880074/


Those are pretty good settings and actuallly what my eye prefers.
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Those are not my settings, but just a report I found. I tried them but it made things too dark and red imho
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Those are not my settings, but just a report I found. I tried them but it made things too dark and red imho
Okay , that makes sense. I'm not sure what that person did, it's my understanding... from Arts review that the HW40 is ~1500 lumens calibrated and the HW55 is ~1000 lumens calibrated (both in high lamp...The HW40 is ~900 lumens in low lamp.)
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Those are not my settings, but just a report I found. I tried them but it made things too dark and red imho


I agree, I tried those settings but didn't like them and went back to the ones I posted in the earlier post (link I placed).


To me, those look best.




What I'm trying to figure out is the Film Projection, Noise Reductions, Motionflow settings.


I can't quite seem to figure them out.


I have realized I really don't like the reality creation on. Especially on the cable box, it just makes it look poor.


On the Blu-ray it looks good, but not on Cable.
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Hello

I'm a owner of a Sony HW40ES.

My setup is at 13.5' from screen and projecting on a ELITE 135" Cinewhite gain 1.1 fixed screen. I'm running on eco on bulb.I have 3 sets of the PS3 3d glasses, they work perfect except they do not reach my seats at 21' from screen. I may buy extender soon.

I have the Sony 3d blue ray player the s5200 (very good player)

Yamaha RX471 5.1 surround receiver with Polk audio speakers.

My zoom is almost maxed. Do you think I need to move it back to around 15ft? For more clear picture.
How do you keep people from smashing their head into the projector? I am in the middle of constructing a very similar riser and I've hit it myself twice during testing of height etc...

anyone have a solution for this? (other than moving the projector or seating)

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How do you keep people from smashing their head into the projector? I am in the middle of constructing a very similar riser and I've hit it myself twice during testing of height etc...

anyone have a solution for this? (other than moving the projector or seating)


How high up is your projector? with a screen that large I'd think you'd want the projector higher, is your ceiling short?


Mine is on a 118" shooting from 14'6" or so and it's mounted on the ceiling which is roughly 9' high.


You'd have to have it down to 6' - 6'6" in order for people to hit their heads. I guess I don't get the make up of your room?
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How high up is your projector? with a screen that large I'd think you'd want the projector higher, is your ceiling short?


Mine is on a 118" shooting from 14'6" or so and it's mounted on the ceiling which is roughly 9' high.


You'd have to have it down to 6' - 6'6" in order for people to hit their heads. I guess I don't get the make up of your room?
its about 7 feet from bottom of projector to floor, but add a 12" riser and there you go...I am 6'2
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Hi all,

I have recently joined the 40ES club and currently have mine projected on a taupe colored wall. I am waiting on a screen for the time being as the projector location (and resulting screen size) wont be determined until some new furniture arrives and I can decide on room arrangement. Not ideal at all, but decent enough for the time being.

I was hoping for some ideas on what adjustments to make to compensate for a taupe/beige screen. I am pretty much a novice when it comes to making video adjustments and never trust myself, not to mention I am slightly color deficient which never helps. Any advice?
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Hi all,

I have recently joined the 40ES club and currently have mine projected on a taupe colored wall. I am waiting on a screen for the time being as the projector location (and resulting screen size) wont be determined until some new furniture arrives and I can decide on room arrangement. Not ideal at all, but decent enough for the time being.

I was hoping for some ideas on what adjustments to make to compensate for a taupe/beige screen. I am pretty much a novice when it comes to making video adjustments and never trust myself, not to mention I am slightly color deficient which never helps. Any advice?

Try some of the settings listed here and then adjust according to what you think looks best.


Unfortunately we're not getting a lot of comments in this section which is somewhat surprising considering how many people have this projector.
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I think that the last wave of owners got most of their questions answered in the other thread. One of the nice things about this projector is the OOTB settings are pretty good too, so we eliminate a lot of the calibration questions.
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Now that I have my system set up up I'm very happy.
The image is sharper than sharp and black levels are as good as I bet I can get without painting my room dark.
I have a Laserdisk player a good collection of disks. I know calibration for laserdisk [analog] is different from that of Blu-ray or DVD.
Can I use the "custom" setting on the Sony to create a profile for the laserdisk without messing up my other settings?
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