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I read german forum about LG Largo and decided to change fans in projector, I have bought two Noctua NF-A8-PWM fans and completely removed previous fans from inside. My friend have 3D-printer, he designed and printed me two adapters. Cords were soldered to the existing cords from previous fans. Tested for four hours - temperature never rises higher than 40C and fans are silent. With factory fans temperature could rise as high as 60C. I am happy with result of this project, fans doesn't bother me anymore in silent scene of movies.
That is really nice, I am so jealous. Noctua fans are the quietest I have ever found on the market for any use.
You are so lucky to have a friend create the brackets for you. Very Nice indeed!

I did read further back in this thread about a Noctua fan model that can replace original which would be better still.
I just don't have the guts to take my perfectly working projector apart to modify it. The PF1500 with a better zoom
lens and quieter fans would be even more perfect.

The PF1500 has been out for just a year now. I wonder how long we have to wait for the next generation to be released?
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I have my LG 1500 in a light controlled room, and I have mine set on the medium power saving setting. That's plenty bright in my room. I've never owned a projector using bulbs, but doesn't a bulb start to lose brightness well before it's life ends? That to me would be a big factor.


Yes, they do lose brightness over time. As a result, your settings will have to change as the bulb changes. That reason alone is why I'll never buy another bulb-lit projector.
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Me personally will change bulb around 2000 hours. I use around 1.5 hours each day, so I bet the projector gets old before the bulb.
If I only used the projector for 1.5 hours a day, I'd probably stick to bulbs as well. After all that's only 2,700 hours in 5 years.

But thanks to the long life LED, I use mine an average of 7 hours a day. I don't worry about the 12,800 hours of use it will have in 5 years time, when I replace it as the main projector and move it to secondary use in a bedroom, replacing the last LCD TV.
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If I only used the projector for 1.5 hours a day, I'd probably stick to bulbs as well. After all that's only 2,700 hours in 5 years.

But thanks to the long life LED, I use mine an average of 7 hours a day. I don't worry about the 12,800 hours of use it will have in 5 years time, when I replace it as the main projector and move it to secondary use in a bedroom, replacing the last LCD TV.

That is true, and sounds reasonable or laser

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I read german forum about LG Largo and decided to change fans in projector, I have bought two Noctua NF-A8-PWM fans and completely removed previous fans from inside. My friend have 3D-printer, he designed and printed me two adapters. Cords were soldered to the existing cords from previous fans. Tested for four hours - temperature never rises higher than 40C and fans are silent. With factory fans temperature could rise as high as 60C. I am happy with result of this project, fans doesn't bother me anymore in silent scene of movies.
Very sweet modification!

How do the adapters attach to the rear of the projector case?

Do you have to modify the rear/backside of the projector case or?

Perhaps you could take a few detailed pictures, showing how the fan adapters connect to the projector case?
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Try my settings grayscale:
cont. 91-92
brig. 48
2 points:
low 0 0 0 - do not work at all.
high 6 0 -37
20 point ire:
5. -24 0 -2
10. -7 0 1
15. -2 0 1
20 0 0 1
25. 0 0 1
30. -2 0 0
35. -2 0 2
45. 2 0 -1
50. -1 0 0
60. 2 0 0
65. 3 0 0
70. 2 0 -1
85. -3 0 0
This is a preview setting, but the Delta E less than 0.6
Grooved in patterns to the projector, but they are not much different from my blue-ray, settings should please.
I have a projecta matte white screen 1.0
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Just thought I would mention for all of the newer owners of the 1500 that after trying all of the different settings posted on this thread that I have found these to be the best. As Esegan says, his Delta E was less than 0.6. Give them a try. You probably will be find they work. My screen is a High Power 2.8.

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Soon I will have time diode 300 hours and I think the diode should purchase permanent (stable) features. In the near future I plan to make a more accurate calibration. If someone is interested in, I can put on the forum the result.
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Soon I will have time diode 300 hours and I think the diode should purchase permanent (stable) features. In the near future I plan to make a more accurate calibration. If someone is interested in, I can put on the forum the result.
Please do post your new calibration settings when you have them.

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Thank you for doing that. I already got it back and set up.
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Very sweet modification!
How do the adapters attach to the rear of the projector case?
Do you have to modify the rear/backside of the projector case or?
Perhaps you could take a few detailed pictures, showing how the fan adapters connect to the projector case?
We used some polyethylene foam to wrap around tube and put it in the projector. Nothing was modified, only back of projector was removed. We cut off previous fans and connected wires with new fans.
I uploaded 3d project for 3d printers in case anyone need it.
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We used some polyethylene foam to wrap around tube and put it in the projector. Nothing was modified, only back of projector was removed. We cut off previous fans and connected wires with new fans.
I uploaded 3d project for 3d printers in case anyone need it.
Hi Futu,

Thanks for the update complete with pictures and 3D Printer Programming!

Say man, when you write that the back of the projector was "removed," is there a cover plate/access plate on the back of the projector that is unscrewed and removed or?

The reason I am asking this question is because I do not own this projector (yet) so I do not have an example to look at and compare.
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Hi Futu,
Say man, when you write that the back of the projector was "removed," is there a cover plate/access plate on the back of the projector that is unscrewed and removed or?
It was unscrewed and removed.
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It was unscrewed and removed.
My 1500 sits two feet from my right ear and runs at mid level. It is no problem. Futu must have very sensitive hearing. On the other hand, these old ears may be so bad that with the increased volume on the TV it drowns out the mid level fan.

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Please do post your new calibration settings when you have them.
A more accurate calibration of greyscale and gamma blue-ray PIONEER-450.
Video Set:
Energy Saving - Medium
Picture Mode - Expert1
Contrast - 97
Brightness - 48
H Sharpness - 10
V Sharpness - 10
Color - 50
Tint - No change

Expert Control:
Dynamic Contrast - Off
Super Resolution - High
Color Gamut - Standard
Edge Enhancement - On
Color Filter - Off
Expert Pattern (Off)
Gamma - 2.2

White Balance:
Method - 2 Point IRE
low 0 0 0 - did not touch it, the manufacturer did not use.
high 4 0 -43
Method 20 Point IRE
IRE Red Green Blue (delta e)
100) 0 0 0 (0,2)
95) -2 -1 0 (0.1)
90) -4 0 4 (0.1)
85) -1 5 5 (0.2)
80) 2 0 2 (0.3)
75) 0 0 3 (0.2)
70) 0 1 4 (0.3)
65) 1 1 1 (0.3)
60) 1 0 1 (0.4)
55) 1 0 -1 (0.1)
50) 1 3 5 (0.3)
45) -1 0 3 (0.4)
40) 0 0 1 (0.2)
35) -1 1 1 (0.2)
30) -4 2 1 (0.4)
25) -3 0 3 (0.3)
20) -4 1 2 (0.3)
15) -4 2 0 (0.3)
10) -9 0 1 (0.3)
5) -29 6 3 (0.2)
Screen PROJECTA matte white 1.0 frame 126 inches of stretch.
If interested, then later I can lay out a calibration of a media player VENZ K1-plus (S2/T2 tuner) for viewing digital TV (S/S2/T/T2/C), 1080p(i)/50Hz. for Europe and with the color space setting.
I don't have Blu-ray OPPO-103/105, which are considered the standard of accuracy of the video, but my pioneer -450 and media TV box VENZ K1plus with a resolution of 1080p/60 and player (KODI 16.1) showed the same result (accurate repeatability) calibration. And therefore we can assume that pioneer -450 very close to the standard video.
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Экран PROJECTA матовый белый в раме натяжной 126 дюймов.
Если интересует, то позже смогу выложить калибровку медиа плеера VENZ K1 plus(S2/T2 тюнер) для просмотра цифрового тв (S/S2/T/T2/C) 1080p(i)/50Гц. для европы и с настройкой цветового пространства.
У меня нет блю-рей OPPO-103/105, которые считаются эталоном точности видео, но мои pioneer -450 и медиа ТВ приставка VENZ K1plus с разрешением 1080р/60 и плеер (KODI 16.1) показали одинаковый результат (точную повторяемость) калибровки. И следовательно можно предположить, что pioneer -450 очень близок к эталону видео.
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To estimate my adjustments of greyscale compatibility, you can apply the pattern from the GCD disk/basic patterns/ramps or a photo of patterns of gradation https://yadi.sk/d/0mWY1Y0PogEMz .

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A more accurate calibration of greyscale and gamma blue-ray PIONEER-450.
Video Set:
Energy Saving - Medium
Picture Mode - Expert1
Contrast - 97
Brightness - 48
H Sharpness - 10
V Sharpness - 10
Color - 50
Tint - No change

Expert Control:
Dynamic Contrast - Off
Super Resolution - High
Color Gamut - Standard
Edge Enhancement - On
Color Filter - Off
Expert Pattern (Off)
Gamma - 2.2

White Balance:
Method - 2 Point IRE
low 0 0 0 - did not touch it, the manufacturer did not use.
high 4 0 -43
Method 20 Point IRE
IRE Red Green Blue (delta e)
100) 0 0 0 (0,2)
95) -2 -1 0 (0.1)
90) -4 0 4 (0.1)
85) -1 5 5 (0.2)
80) 2 0 2 (0.3)
75) 0 0 3 (0.2)
70) 0 1 4 (0.3)
65) 1 1 1 (0.3)
60) 1 0 1 (0.4)
55) 1 0 -1 (0.1)
50) 1 3 5 (0.3)
45) -1 0 3 (0.4)
40) 0 0 1 (0.2)
35) -1 1 1 (0.2)
30) -4 2 1 (0.4)
25) -3 0 3 (0.3)
20) -4 1 2 (0.3)
15) -4 2 0 (0.3)
10) -9 0 1 (0.3)
5) -29 6 3 (0.2)
Screen PROJECTA matte white 1.0 frame 126 inches of stretch.
If interested, then later I can lay out a calibration of a media player VENZ K1-plus (S2/T2 tuner) for viewing digital TV (S/S2/T/T2/C), 1080p(i)/50Hz. for Europe and with the color space setting.
I don't have Blu-ray OPPO-103/105, which are considered the standard of accuracy of the video, but my pioneer -450 and media TV box VENZ K1plus with a resolution of 1080p/60 and player (KODI 16.1) showed the same result (accurate repeatability) calibration. And therefore we can assume that pioneer -450 very close to the standard video.
Original text in Russian.
Экран PROJECTA матовый белый в раме натяжной 126 дюймов.
Если интересует, то позже смогу выложить калибровку медиа плеера VENZ K1 plus(S2/T2 тюнер) для просмотра цифрового тв (S/S2/T/T2/C) 1080p(i)/50Гц. для европы и с настройкой цветового пространства.
У меня нет блю-рей OPPO-103/105, которые считаются эталоном точности видео, но мои pioneer -450 и медиа ТВ приставка VENZ K1plus с разрешением 1080р/60 и плеер (KODI 16.1) показали одинаковый результат (точную повторяемость) калибровки. И следовательно можно предположить, что pioneer -450 очень близок к эталону видео.
What about your CMS settings?

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Nice WB settings. Looks great on my Silver Ticket white screen. After testing, only changes I made is using low dynamic contrast, and 1.9 gamma with a lower brightness setting.

Any ability to also do CMS settings?

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Just thought I would mention a recent discovery that most will know of, but maybe not had the actual experience. My 1500 is set up in a converted bedroom with light beige carpeting and cream colored walls. We recently replaced an 8x10 area rug in the living room with a larger one. The rug is dark blue with reds and other dark shades throughout it. So we moved it into the home theater room and bang! What a difference! The rug took out a large amount of reflected light that was bouncing off of the beige carpet and not only increased the perceived contrast but eased the strain on these old eyes. So if you haven't done this already check out CraigsList. There are tons of rugs listed and you won't have much trouble finding one for small money and it will make a huge difference in your viewing experience.

Things just keep getting better and better with this great projector.

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Yup, ceilings too.
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That one is tough on the WAF .

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Contrast - 97
Brightness - 48
llow 0 0 0
high 4 0 -43
IRE Red Green Blue (delta e)
100) 0 0 0 (0,2)
95) -2 -1 0 (0.1)
90) -4 0 3 (0.1)
85) -1 5 5 (0.2)
80) 2 -1 2 (0.3)
75) 0 0 3 (0.2)
70) 0 1 3 (0.3)
65) 1 1 1 (0.3)
60) 1 0 1 (0.4)
55) 1 0 -1 (0.1)
50) 1 4 5 (0.3)
45) -1 0 5 (0.4)
40) 0 0 1 (0.2)
35) -3 1 1 (0.2)
30) -5 1 1 (0.4)
25) -2 0 3 (0.3)
20) -5 1 2 (0.3)
15) -5 2 0 (0.3)
10) -9 0 1 (0.3)
5) -27 6 2 (0.2)
patterns 75% - 75% (CIE94)
RED -11 13 13 (0.3-Delta e)
GREEN -1 8 6 (0.3)
BLUE -6 -5 -30 (1.4)
YELLOW 0 17 29 (1.8)
CYAN 29 -9 30 (0.4)
MAGENTA 6 6 -24 (0.5)

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RED -11 13 13 (0.3-Delta e)
GREEN -1 8 6 (0.3)
BLUE -6 -5 -30 (1.4)
YELLOW 0 17 29 (1.8)
CYAN 29 -9 30 (0.4)
MAGENTA 6 6 -24 (0.5)
Thanks for that. I'll experiment with them tonight.

Your numbers are unlabeled and slightly out of order compared to the menus, so I wanted to make sure I assumed correctly:

Color Management System:
Color Sat. Tint Lum.
Red -11 13 13
Green -1 8 6
Blue -6 -5 -30
Cyan 29 -9 30
Magenta 6 6 -24
Yellow 0 17 29
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Your numbers are unlabeled and slightly out of order compared to the menus, so I wanted to make sure I assumed correctly:
Color Management System:
Color Sat. Tint Lum.
Red -11 13 13
Green -1 8 6
Blue -6 -5 -30
Cyan 29 -9 30
Magenta 6 6 -24
Yellow 0 17 29
Yes that's right, I just placed the secondary colors according to the standard, and LG did the procedure differently.
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Tell me how to enter the service menu of the projector, and preferably a description of the menu?
I want to try to adjust the 2 point gray scale to correct the offset of -43 blue. Then maybe the offset adjustment 20 points blue from 100-50 (10) and 50-5 (5) will fall into place, as well as the color space to tune more precisely( BLUE and YELLOW).
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Tell me how to enter the service menu of the projector, and preferably a description of the menu?
I want to try to adjust the 2 point gray scale to correct the offset of -43 blue. Then maybe the offset adjustment 20 points blue from 100-50 (10) and 50-5 (5) will fall into place, as well as the color space to tune more precisely( BLUE and YELLOW).
All I can say, is that your settings are the most pleasing to my eyes so far. Thank You for sharing!
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Tell me how to enter the service menu of the projector, and preferably a description of the menu?
I want to try to adjust the 2 point gray scale to correct the offset of -43 blue. Then maybe the offset adjustment 20 points blue from 100-50 (10) and 50-5 (5) will fall into place, as well as the color space to tune more precisely( BLUE and YELLOW).
I repost my previous post:
  1. Install Anymote Universal Remote on Android. Search it in Play Market.
  2. Add the following remotes: TV-VIZIO-MOST MODELS and TV-LG-SERVICE REMOTE . You may also add remote for LG PROJECTOR
  3. Choose LG Service remote.
  4. Direct smartphone to projector and tap IN-START or EZ-ADJUCT button (two different service menus).
  5. LG will show window asking for 4 code password.
  6. Choose TV-VIZIO remote.
  7. Enter 0413.
  8. Done.
  9. You may also create Macros in this app for quick access to menu, don't forget to add time delays between taps.
BTW I messaged to you in Personal Messages regarding calibration.

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Using the diode from an old remote control and audio test signal to log into CM, I opened the menu password.
Need a guide or photo the service menu can anyone have?

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Hi, when you calibrate the projector LG PF1500-AN(US) after reducing the blue to -43 in 2 points, it was found that in 20 tochechnye blue misses its brightness (from 100-50 offset by 10, and from 50-5 shifted by 5). For example, 80 point blue adjust the regulator 70 and a 20 point adjust blue 15 controller menu.
I decided to try to adjust the gray scale in the service menu. Settings grayscale 2-point I found EZ ADJUST/ WHITE BALANCE), adjusted the instrument light for WARM:
R-236
G-192
B-92
r -64
g-64
b-64
After exiting the service menu gray scale is not changed, why?
When in the service menu ,I was part of the WHITE BALANCE, then there was a noise(ripple). When you exit the service menu, input was component or composite mode. How do I adjust (white balance) in the service menu for HDMI, you need to switch that would be under menu WHITE BALANCE were not transferred to the component or composite mode, and was for HDMI?
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