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Awesome and how about for focus? Do you use one of the test patterns in settings for that? Currently I've eyeballed from text off an Xbox one menu screen but it's driving me crazy because I don't think it's perfect.
Get a small set of binoculars, I think 4x, cheap ones. Works great.

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Get a small set of binoculars, I think 4x, cheap ones. Works great.

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Binoculars! How come that never comes to my mind and I actually have one or two of them already. Thank you!

By the way, anyone noticed that 45ES focus can slowly drift over the time? I found I have to fine tune the focus every couple weeks. It's not huge problem more like a nuance but still would like to know whether anyone else has this focus problem.

I'm thinking about taping the focus ring to prevent it from rotating on its own to see if that helps.
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Binoculars! How come that never comes to my mind and I actually have one or two of them already. Thank you!

By the way, anyone noticed that 45ES focus can slowly drift over the time? I found I have to fine tune the focus every couple weeks. It's not huge problem more like a nuance but still would like to know whether anyone else has this focus problem.

I'm thinking about taping the focus ring to prevent it from rotating on its own to see if that helps.
Are you talking about lens shift knobs? I do know that once you set up your vertical and horizontal shifts you must turn the knob in opposite direction to lock it....but don't go too far to where grid shifts again. I saw this in another thread and wished Sony would put it in the manual.
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No, I'm talking about focus only. H and V shifts actually have been pretty stable over the months.

The focus drift is minute, but over the weeks it can make 45ES kind of slightly out of focus. Takes seconds to turn the focus ring to fix it, but curious whether other people bumped into similar thing.
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No, I'm talking about focus only. H and V shifts actually have been pretty stable over the months.

The focus drift is minute, but over the weeks it can make 45ES kind of slightly out of focus. Takes seconds to turn the focus ring to fix it, but curious whether other people bumped into similar thing.
Assuming you're talking about center piece that focus/defocus. The plastic piece should never move on its own unless you put lens cover on and off regularly and that could move it. Best way is to leave lens cover off all the time and have another person stand at screen while you are focusing the words to get best focus cause its hard to see from 15+ feet all on your own. I've put over 200 hours on it and never had to touch it.

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yes the lens cover is always off. It appears that you don't have this focus drift problem. I have no idea why I have it. I wonder whether simply taping the focus ring could just solve it.
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yes the lens cover is always off. It appears that you don't have this focus drift problem. I have no idea why I have it. I wonder whether simply taping the focus ring could just solve it.
Have you done the red/blue focus as well? Why would you tape it? Is the physical plastic ring actually moving??? Its not supposed to move on its own.

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I did red/blue shift by 1 pixel on convergence adjustment, other than that did nothing related to the focus.

In fact I don't know whether the focus ring moves on itself but I'm suspecting it might otherwise the focus won't creep/drift. Taping it is just an experiment to see whether this is the case.
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So after monthly testing my HW45 must say I'm quite impressed.

I went from HW40, it seemed meaningless upgrade at the time of purchase and I did not expect to see a big difference. But actually there is huge improvement in terms of image clarity, even without Reality Creation everything is sharp and clear. On HW40 it was almost impossible to watch something without RC enable (I keep it on min. settings though), but now it's absolutelly optional and left to taste - everything looks great in any way. There is improvements in color reproduction as well, not drammatic as with clarity but it is indeed there. Also it's a bit brighter, just enough to give a bright image with excellent blacks on my Silver Ticker 100" gray screen (HW40 was not quite there a bit).

Overall a much more enjoyable experience and I have noticed that I use my projector setup far more often.
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I did red/blue shift by 1 pixel on convergence adjustment, other than that did nothing related to the focus.

In fact I don't know whether the focus ring moves on itself but I'm suspecting it might otherwise the focus won't creep/drift. Taping it is just an experiment to see whether this is the case.
Did the taping work?

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40es vs 45es?

Okay, I've narrowed my purchase decision down to Sony, but I have noticed there are still deals to be had for the 40es. According to Google Shopping, the 40es is still available for about $1500.

Is the 45es worth the extra $500?
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Okay, I've narrowed my purchase decision down to Sony, but I have noticed there are still deals to be had for the 40es. According to Google Shopping, the 40es is still available for about $1500.

Is the 45es worth the extra $500?
45es is the better projector.

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Okay, I've narrowed my purchase decision down to Sony, but I have noticed there are still deals to be had for the 40es. According to Google Shopping, the 40es is still available for about $1500.

Is the 45es worth the extra $500?

I have no experience with the 45es but i thought the 40 was a killer projector when i bought it 2 years ago for just under $2,000.

Obviously newer tech will be better but the 40 is hard to go against IMO
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The HW45ES has improved performance over the HW40ES. Be very careful if you buy one of the remaining HW40ES units being advertised at a low price. Most of the legitimate vendors are out of them and legitimate vendors that do have a few left are still advertising them at ~$2,000. Some of the vendors currently advertising them at low prices have questionable records with the BBB and other consumer watchdogs, so be sure to research the vendor before giving them your credit card number. If not purchased from an authorized Sony dealer it could be a gray market model that would not come with a Sony factory warranty.
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Contact forum sponsor Chris @Cleveland Plasma for a Sony 45ES - you won't be sorry

Chris just shipped me a 45ES last week, and after comparing I am now returning the 4050 to Benq. I am floored how good 'lowly' 1080p blu-rays look on this machine once all settings are dialed in to taste. Good quality cable HD shows are impressive as well.

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Lowly blu rays ?

Say what ?
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I added a wink to my post There is so much hype about 4k that you'd think us 1080p blu-ray owners are in the dark ages But the 45ES is making my collection shine all over again.

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So after monthly testing my HW45 must say I'm quite impressed.

I went from HW40, it seemed meaningless upgrade at the time of purchase and I did not expect to see a big difference. But actually there is huge improvement in terms of image clarity, even without Reality Creation everything is sharp and clear. On HW40 it was almost impossible to watch something without RC enable (I keep it on min. settings though), but now it's absolutelly optional and left to taste - everything looks great in any way. There is improvements in color reproduction as well, not drammatic as with clarity but it is indeed there. Also it's a bit brighter, just enough to give a bright image with excellent blacks on my Silver Ticker 100" gray screen (HW40 was not quite there a bit).

Overall a much more enjoyable experience and I have noticed that I use my projector setup far more often.
This was some helpful info. My HW40ES has started to develop some uniformity issues which aren't very bad at all yet, but enough that I tell. Sony wants me to send it in for repair. So I think I might just get the HW45ES, and sell my HW40ES once I get it back from repair. What you mentioned about the clarity is particularly interesting on top of RC being improved in this model.
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Looking at pulling the trigger on one of these soon. Do forum rules allow discussion of who to buy it from online that is an authorized dealer so that it has warranty?

EDIT: Contacted Chris @Cleveland Plasma - All is good!
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hello,
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The HW40es and HW45es sony projector . The 40 is cheaper around 300$ than the 45es so which one i should choose ? and i saw the point that the 40 is made in Japan and 45 is made in China
My screen is 120" , i'm mainly using for gaming and movie
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I'm considering
The HW40es and HW45es sony projector . The 40 is cheaper around 300$ than the 45es so which one i should choose ? and i saw the point that the 40 is made in Japan and 45 is made in China
My screen is 120" , i'm mainly using for gaming and movie
Many tks
They are both great.

If you have the 40 then congrats you did well.

If you have neither yet there is no reason to buy the 40 because it has been replaced with the superior 45.

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They are both great.

If you have the 40 then congrats you did well.

If you have neither yet there is no reason to buy the 40 because it has been replaced with the superior 45.

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many tks Brian,
Actually i just got a nice deal with the HW65ES . Can i ask what are differences between the 65 and 45 ? And that's worth with paying 600$ more ?
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many tks Brian,
Actually i just got a nice deal with the HW65ES . Can i ask what are differences between the 65 and 45 ? And that's worth with paying 600$ more ?
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The 65es adds dynamic iris.

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many tks Brian,
Actually i just got a nice deal with the HW65ES . Can i ask what are differences between the 65 and 45 ? And that's worth with paying 600$ more ?
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The 65 Retails for DOUBLE the price if the 45 so in that sense it's worth $600 more. (Better resale value)

It adds the dynamic contrast (as mentioned)

And it adds Network connectivity. (Very often desired by custom installers)
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The HW40es and HW45es sony projector . The 40 is cheaper around 300$ than the 45es so which one i should choose ? and i saw the point that the 40 is made in Japan and 45 is made in China
My screen is 120" , i'm mainly using for gaming and movie
Many tks
I have the 40 and see no reason to upgrade to the 45 because of the minimal updates but if I didn't own one and and a choice between the 2 for $300 I would go for the 45 since it is newer tech and latest model. Either way I think you will be very happy with the Sony, great projectors!
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I scanned a lot of the posts in this thread, and didn't find any talking much about throw distance. According To the calculators online, with a 125" screen, it shows about 13"-19" with the optimal at 15'2". I am assuming that 15'2" is the "optimal" placement?(it doesn't really say that).

I have found people saying that obviously the closer the brighter, but that farther away has advantages, in that the light hits the screen at a more straight on angle. And other benefits as well. With the black out curtains I recently installed, the room is very dark, if not pitch black, even on a sunny day, so brightness isn't an issue. I am thinking of mounting at about 16"-16.5".

Outside of brightness, is this even worth worrying about at all?

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... According To the calculators online, with a 125" screen, it shows about 13"-19" with the optimal at 15'2". I am assuming that 15'2" is the "optimal" placement?(it doesn't really say that). ...
The online calculators simply default to the midpoint of the throw range. Aside from closer being brighter most people wouldn't notice any difference in image quality at any distance.
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Black Friday

Is there any news if Sony will have a black friday price on the vpl-hw45es?
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