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Hi there,

Hopefully someone with experience in the area can help. My daughter is a musician and wants to do an an audio visual experience in small venues. I am looking for a suitable projector and screen that is reasonable hardy, versatile for varying venues and easy to set up (non technical and I am not going on the road with her). I had been looking at data projectors which are bright enough at 3,000 lumens plus but was not sure how they would go with video.

Hopefully someone with a little more experience in the area can provide some advice fro my daughter, she has around 1.3K Australian to spend on it.

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That 1.3K Australian would be about US $1,000. There are plenty of options available in that range. But there are all kinds of different variables to be considered. At the top of the list would be how big a screen does she want to use and how much ambient light will be in the venues in which she presents? That will determine how many lumens the projector should have. Also, is the 1.3K a total for both the screen and the projector or just the projector?

Just generally speaking, LCD projectors have an edge over DLP projectors for use with large groups because a few people are sensitive to the rainbow effect from DLP. The more people you present to the more likely some will be annoyed by RBE. Also, brighter DLP projectors tend to achieve their extra lumens by punching up the whites which can leave colors appearing duller and less saturated. LCD projectors produce equal lumens for both whites and colors. When it comes to LCD projectors in the US $1,000 class, Epson is about the only game in town. Several different Epson models could work.
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That 1.3K Australian would be about US $1,000. There are plenty of options available in that range. But there are all kinds of different variables to be considered. At the top of the list would be how big a screen does she want to use and how much ambient light will be in the venues in which she presents? That will determine how many lumens the projector should have. Also, is the 1.3K a total for both the screen and the projector or just the projector?

Just generally speaking, LCD projectors have an edge over DLP projectors for use with large groups because a few people are sensitive to the rainbow effect from DLP. The more people you present to the more likely some will be annoyed by RBE. Also, brighter DLP projectors tend to achieve their extra lumens by punching up the whites which can leave colors appearing duller and less saturated. LCD projectors produce equal lumens for both whites and colors. When it comes to LCD projectors in the US $1,000 class, Epson is about the only game in town. Several different Epson models could work.
Thanks for the reply. No the $1KUS is for the projector alone. I would expect around a 7 foot wide screen. I would also expect that the venues would be at night in a club atmosphere so not direct daylight. There will be lights on her so there will be ambient light and the screen would be behind and slightly above her. It needs to be as short a throw as possible so she can have flexible placement on small screens

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Epson 1440 is a little more but perfect.
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Look at one of the Benq short throw PJ's a lot of DJ's use them. Having a shorter throw will make it easier to set up.
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Thanks for the reply. No the $1KUS is for the projector alone. I would expect around a 7 foot wide screen. I would also expect that the venues would be at night in a club atmosphere so not direct daylight. There will be lights on her so there will be ambient light and the screen would be behind and slightly above her. It needs to be as short a throw as possible so she can have flexible placement on small screens
OK, let's make sure we completely understand the screen situation before looking at projectors. Assuming she will be taking her own screen with her and not relying on the venues to provide, is the plan to have a 16:9 or 4:3 aspect ratio? Screens are normally described by their diagonal dimension, with a 7' wide 16:9 screen having a 92" diagonal and a 7' wide 4:3 screen having a 100" diagonal. This would define whether you want a native 16:9 or 4:3 projector.

Neither of those screen sizes is especially large, so there are many projectors that would throw that size image from ~10'. Only if you need the projector closer than 10' would you need to get into a short throw projector.

Also, a screen that would be slightly above her would need to be hung so the bottom was at least 6' off the ground. Floor standing screens that have the bottom of the screen that high are pretty rare due to stability problems. In most cases where a screen needed to be that high it would be hung from a wall or a ceiling, which would require extra setup. Do you actually have a screen selected or are you just assuming you can find exactly what you're looking for?

One problem with having the screen that high is that the projector would also need to be up high, so it would need a special stand 6' or higher off the ground to be level with the bottom of the screen.

If you want an easy to use screen that she could take with her and easily deploy, there are portable floor standing screens available where the screen pulls up from the floor. But they typically only extend to where the bottom of the viewing area is about 3.5' off the floor. So the viewing area of the screen could be beside her but only partially above her head.
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OK, let's make sure we completely understand the screen situation before looking at projectors. Assuming she will be taking her own screen with her and not relying on the venues to provide, is the plan to have a 16:9 or 4:3 aspect ratio? Screens are normally described by their diagonal dimension, with a 7' wide 16:9 screen having a 92" diagonal and a 7' wide 4:3 screen having a 100" diagonal. This would define whether you want a native 16:9 or 4:3 projector.

Neither of those screen sizes is especially large, so there are many projectors that would throw that size image from ~10'. Only if you need the projector closer than 10' would you need to get into a short throw projector.

Also, a screen that would be slightly above her would need to be hung so the bottom was at least 6' off the ground. Floor standing screens that have the bottom of the screen that high are pretty rare due to stability problems. In most cases where a screen needed to be that high it would be hung from a wall or a ceiling, which would require extra setup. Do you actually have a screen selected or are you just assuming you can find exactly what you're looking for?

One problem with having the screen that high is that the projector would also need to be up high, so it would need a special stand 6' or higher off the ground to be level with the bottom of the screen.

If you want an easy to use screen that she could take with her and easily deploy, there are portable floor standing screens available where the screen pulls up from the floor. But they typically only extend to where the bottom of the viewing area is about 3.5' off the floor. So the viewing area of the screen could be beside her but only partially above her head.
Thanks for the reply. Yes it requires a 16:9 screen. Yes the screen would need to be portable. It is mostly for smaller venues where they do not have their own projector and screen. I do not have a screen selected yet. I would just get the highest portable screen that I could for her if there are limits. She is just under 6 foot tall so I may may make a portable box that the Tripod can stand on for her if it is not high enough. Given small venues stage sizes are likely to be limited so it would be reduced to short throw projectors I think.

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I think the Epson HC1040 might fit the bill. It's well under $1000 USD and is known to be quite bright. Epson is a great name as well and you should have no issues with servicing or re-selling it if you need/choose to do so at some point.

https://www.amazon.com/Epson-Cinema-...s=epson+hc1040

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A tripod screen on a riser could work. But tripods are the least stable portable screens. A pull-up floor standing screen is more stable than a tripod and could also be elevated on a riser. Do a search for Elite ezCinema to see an example. Even more stable are portable screens with breakdown frames. But they require more setup and takedown time.

Short throw projectors are much less common, so that really helps narrow things down. Most 1080p short throw projectors aren't bright enough for best viewing in the kind of ambient light found on a stage. It would be easier to find a bright 720p or WXGA short throw projector in your price range.

Looking at the Epson Australia website, the brightest short throw LCD projector is the EB-535W for $1,499 RRP inc GST. It's a WXGA projector rated at 3,400 lumens in both color and white. It can throw a 100" diagonal 16:9 image from a little more than 3' from the screen. If you can't go over your $1,300 budget the EB-525W is $1,299, but is only rated at 2,800 lumens. You could definitely make use of the EB-535W's extra 600 lumens on a stage with some ambient light. Take a look on the Epson Australia website and see what you think.

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