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Dust blobs usually show on dark scenes.

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Does anyone happen to have any calibration settings available for a light controlled room?
Erm... anyone?
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Also... I tried using this Monoprice cable that some other forum members have had success with... Cabernet Ultra CL2 Active High Speed HDMI? Cable, 45ft, but get no signal.

https://www.monoprice.com/mobile/product/details/12737

Is there another cost effective option?
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room has sealed Hvac system, external hvac no duct hardly and room has 2 air purifiers. Room is virtually dust free.
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Then you are good to go with the 5040UB.

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Greetings! When we posted this highlight reel on our site and youtube, it was intended to be just that - a very short, fun piece, touting the highlights. For more serious discussion of the 5040UB (I have one mounted in my theater at the moment - comparing with with Epson's LS10500 which arrived last week and was just calibrated), I recommend the full online review, linked to above, and here: http://www.projectorreviews.com//eps...ector-review// For those video oriented, there are two video reviews - a short one, and longer version. Both are based on the online review. Here's a link to the longer, more in-depth video, although it still contains far less info than the online review: http://www.projectorreviews.com/revi...ector-summary/

PS we also have a comparison on our site to the JVC RS400 (since replaced), which I consider the logical next step up for many folks. Thanks! -art!
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Erm... anyone?
Hi, try our review - the settings for 1080/REC709 are very good. This was early HDR (when the review was done), and as most realize, HDR has been a challenge, but it was a real mess when the Samsung started shipping (and was the only 4K UHD HDR capable player available (complete with limitations).
We're still getting the hang of HDR. (We just calibrated the Epson LS10500 this week, and have two 4K UHD DLP projectors (BenQ and Vivitek) arriving in the next two weeks for review. (And we've tackled one Sony 4K since the early days.)
http://www.projectorreviews.com/epso...jector-review/

By the time we finish with all three reviews, I hope to really have 4K calibration with HDR producing great results (or rather Eric my calibrator should). I've been watching the calibrated LS10500 since yesterday - definitely doing color with HDR better than our 5040UB/6040UB did in the original review. thanks! -art

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Hi, try our review - the settings for 1080/REC709 are very good. This was early HDR, and as most realize, HDR has been a challenge, but it was a real mess when the Samsung started shipping (and was the only 4K UHD HDR capable player available (complete with limitations): We're still getting the hang of HDR. (We just calibrated the Epson LS10500 this week, and have two 4K UHD DLP projectors (BenQ and Vivitek) arriving in the next two weeks for review.

By the time we finish with all three, I hope to really have 4K calibration with HDR producing great results (or rather Eric my calibrator should). I've been watching the calibrated LS10500 since yesterday - definitely doing color with HDR better than our 5040UB/6040UB did in the original review.
Thanks. Are you referring to the settings found on this page?

http://www.projectorreviews.com/epso...cement-by-mode

It also appears that advance calibration settings found on that site are only available to paying members?

http://www.projectorreviews.com/epso...d-calibration/

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From the review at ProjectorReviews.com:
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The Home Cinema 5040UB – $2999, and Pro Cinema 6040UB – $3999, are virtually identical except for price, the case color, and that the “Pro” version comes with a cable cover, a spare lamp, plus an extra year of warranty and replacement program, for the higher price point.
Don't forget the mount, the presence of ISF modes, and most importantly (a deal breaker for me), is the lack of anamorphic lens support in the 5040ub.

I don't know if reviewers don't think that that is a significant difference or if they simply don't notice that it is missing...

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It takes me directly to my post with the settings. Maybe it's platform specific in how it reacts to the link? I tried it in Tapatalk on my phone. I've also clicked it and it went correctly within the forum's web page using Chrome on my laptop.
I know. It happens with many of us. The post # would be really helpful.

Edit : Is it post # 7220? If yes, I am assuming the white balance controls are at it's default, so are the CMS. Because when I tried to apply those settings over and above my HCFR calibrated DigitalCinema, it tend to blow the highlights.
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Would anyone you 5040 owners be willing to project a pure white image and looking at it and posting a photo of it here. I want to see if the panel color uniformity issue I have is common or not. I am torn between getting it replaced and just holding on to it if others have similar looking issues. I had posted some pics in this thread showing my color variations.


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There is a color uniformity setting for 8 levels and 9 locations each. Try playing with it to adjust the uniformity.
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Also... I tried using this Monoprice cable that some other forum members have had success with... Cabernet Ultra CL2 Active High Speed HDMI? Cable, 45ft, but get no signal.

https://www.monoprice.com/mobile/product/details/12737

Is there another cost effective option?

My 6040 is hung from the ceiling. My player is a Sammy K8500 to a Onkyo 608 (2010) with HDMI 1.4.


When I first plugged in my Monoprice Cabernet Ultra CL2 Active High Speed HDMI cable, I had plugged it into the wrong HDMI port (2) on the Epson and got no picture. It must be plugged into the HDMI 1 port and got a beautiful picture.


Tell us how it turns out.


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Also... I tried using this Monoprice cable that some other forum members have had success with... Cabernet Ultra CL2 Active High Speed HDMI? Cable, 45ft, but get no signal.

https://www.monoprice.com/mobile/product/details/12737

Is there another cost effective option?

My 6040 is hung from the ceiling. My player is a Sammy K8500 to a Onkyo 608 (2010) with HDMI 1.4.


When I first plugged in my Monoprice Cabernet Ultra CL2 Active High Speed HDMI cable, I had plugged it into the wrong HDMI port (2) on the Epson and got no picture. It must be plugged into the HDMI 1 port and got a beautiful picture.


Tell us how it turns out.


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Thanks. I had tried different ports and sources... turns out that active hdmi cables are directional... just had it going the wrong way. The $24 45' monoprice cable I linked works fine.
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Sony X800 Settings and 5040UB

For the Sony UBP-X800:
Should I turn 4K Up Scaling to off and let the 5040 do the 4K Enhancement for 1080P blu-ray or does it make no difference?
Also, should Deep Color be Auto or Off? I thought it was for HDR but I am not sure about much anymore..

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Thanks. I had tried different ports and sources... turns out that active hdmi cables are directional... just had it going the wrong way. The $24 45' monoprice cable I linked works fine.
I am running same cable, only doing 1080P until receiver gets here, are you running 4K thru that 45ft cable?

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Thanks. I had tried different ports and sources... turns out that active hdmi cables are directional... just had it going the wrong way. The $24 45' monoprice cable I linked works fine.

Crap, I forget to tell you that...sorry.

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I am running same cable, only doing 1080P until receiver gets here, are you running 4K thru that 45ft cable?

Yes, we're getting 4K thru it!

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Thanks. I had tried different ports and sources... turns out that active hdmi cables are directional... just had it going the wrong way. The $24 45' monoprice cable I linked works fine.
I am running same cable, only doing 1080P until receiver gets here, are you running 4K thru that 45ft cable?
When I select info, it says 4k.

Funny thing, though. Not entirely certain how it works since I just hooked it up, but...

When I select 4k on the Roku, info tab on the 6040ub shows 4k (and the 4k enhancement is greyed out as it's supposed to be). But when I select 1080p on the Roku, the projector enables 4k enhancement as an option (working as intended). However, in this latter mode when 4k enhancement is manually enabled, info still shows 1080. Isn't the projector supposed to upscale to 4k in this configuration?
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I am running same cable, only doing 1080P until receiver gets here, are you running 4K thru that 45ft cable?
Using an older Marantz SR8002, which sounds amazing but lacks 4k. So I'm simply running a direct hdmi cable to the projector, then setting the Marantz output to digital and running a toslink to the receiver from the Roku for sound.
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From the review at ProjectorReviews.com:
Don't forget the mount, the presence of ISF modes, and most importantly (a deal breaker for me), is the lack of anamorphic lens support in the 5040ub.

I don't know if reviewers don't think that that is a significant difference or if they simply don't notice that it is missing...
Didn't know about the anamorphic lens, but checking prices they seem to cost more than the 6040ub. Does it make a very big difference over simply resizing the picture?

I can attest... for those who haven't actually seen it, the Chief mount that's included is stellar. It's easy to see why it's so well regarded. The cost is well justified.
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I can attest... for those who haven't actually seen it, the Chief mount that's included is stellar. It's easy to see why it's so well regarded. The cost is well justified.
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Totally agree! I've been using Chief mounts for years. IMO...can't be beat for sturdiness, ridigity, adjustment flexibility, and most importantly...ability to easily and quickly deinstall and reinstall while maintaining perfect alignment and registration.

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Didn't know about the anamorphic lens, but checking prices they seem to cost more than the 6040ub. Does it make a very big difference over simply resizing the picture?
I'm not making a judgment on the value of any particular feature (though anamorphic support is VERY important on my list, as I already own an ISCO III lens), but rather to point out that most every review I have read has been inaccurate in listing the differences between the 2 models. I am not trying to single Art out for this, as EVERY review I have read has been wrong in this regard. Each person can judge for himself which features are important and which are not, but he needs an accurate list of those differences in order to make an informed decision.

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Didn't know about the anamorphic lens, but checking prices they seem to cost more than the 6040ub. Does it make a very big difference over simply resizing the picture?

I can attest... for those who haven't actually seen it, the Chief mount that's included is stellar. It's easy to see why it's so well regarded. The cost is well justified.



I called Chief about buying a ceiling mount directly from them and here's what they said. Epson only buys one part of the mount from chief, and the other parts from other sellers. They hobble it together and that's what you get with the 6040.


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Didn't know about the anamorphic lens, but checking prices they seem to cost more than the 6040ub. Does it make a very big difference over simply resizing the picture?

I can attest... for those who haven't actually seen it, the Chief mount that's included is stellar. It's easy to see why it's so well regarded. The cost is well justified.



I called Chief about buying a ceiling mount directly from them and here's what they said. Epson only buys one part of the mount from chief, and the other parts from other sellers. They hobble it together and that's what you get with the 6040.

Chief likely makes the most important part: the mount itself... which is the heart and soul of it since it contains the pitch, roll, and yaw adjustments. The adapter plates and tubes are likely outsourced.

Haven't owned anything other than the Chief, but imo based on seeing detailed pictures of the competition it's in a whole different league.

Maybe just as important as build quality is tech support. I telephoned Chief with a question about my angled ceiling and the support was as good as it gets. No waiting... and with a knowledgeable rep that's actually fluent in English. Personally, I place great value on this.
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Using an older Marantz SR8002, which sounds amazing but lacks 4k. So I'm simply running a direct hdmi cable to the projector, then setting the Marantz output to digital and running a toslink to the receiver from the Roku for sound.
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I wonder if a dust cover would help with dust blobs,but I guess some of the dust comes from using the projector,it sucking in air and the filter not catching the dust
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I appreciate very much all the helpful info in this very long thread
I still am not clear as to 4k hdr compatibilty for dvd AND streaming(amazon/netflix).
Is there one device that works for both?
From epson it 5040ube shows that it accepts 4k hdr at 24hz 10 bit color at 4:4:4 and converts to 4:2:2, where the non-wireless 5040ub only does 4:2:2.
Is the ube more compatible than the ub?
is there a downverter that would make either more compatible?
I have a xbox ones s that transmits 4k hdr at 24hz 10 bit color at 4:4:4, will that work on ube?
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I called Chief about buying a ceiling mount directly from them and here's what they said. Epson only buys one part of the mount from chief, and the other parts from other sellers. They hobble it together and that's what you get with the 6040.
I can assure you, all the necessary components are available from Chief. The two primary pieces are the RPA mount and the SLB custom/adapter or bracket/plate...and if needed a third piece...the extension tube. It may very well be that Epson only buys and provides the RPA and indeed the SLB can be obtained from various dealers. As I discovered and was informed by Chief, it is to our advantage to purchase from a dealer as Chief cannot extend dealer pricing/discounts to individuals. It is in fact cheaper to buy from a dealer.

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Chief likely makes the most important part: the mount itself... which is the heart and soul of it since it contains the pitch, roll, and yaw adjustments. The adapter plates and tubes are likely outsourced.
Having spoken to an informed technical advisor from Chief, I am under the impression that Chief manufacturers all of their components.

RPA = mounts directly to ceiling or attached to an extension tube and contains the pitch, roll, and yaw adjustment...there is an original version and a newer version but both do the same thing.

SLB = the custom bracket or plate that mates perfectly (no spider legs) to your particular projector and attaches to the RPA piece...for the 5040/6040, it is an SLB357.

Below are pictures of the SLB357 attached to my 5040....

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/68-dig...l#post48956017

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Hi, try our review - the settings for 1080/REC709 are very good. This was early HDR (when the review was done), and as most realize, HDR has been a challenge, but it was a real mess when the Samsung started shipping (and was the only 4K UHD HDR capable player available (complete with limitations).

We're still getting the hang of HDR. (We just calibrated the Epson LS10500 this week, and have two 4K UHD DLP projectors (BenQ and Vivitek) arriving in the next two weeks for review. (And we've tackled one Sony 4K since the early days.)

http://www.projectorreviews.com/epso...jector-review/



By the time we finish with all three reviews, I hope to really have 4K calibration with HDR producing great results (or rather Eric my calibrator should). I've been watching the calibrated LS10500 since yesterday - definitely doing color with HDR better than our 5040UB/6040UB did in the original review. thanks! -art


I would love to try your settings, however, your site says they are only available to people that pay?


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