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[QUOTE=murphy4040;55849800]I just got this projector and so far, so good. The only 4K input I have at the moment is DTV. Each time I time I turn on my system (DTV -> Denon AVR -> Epson) and go to any 4K channel I get a message that my TV does not support 4K and will display the content in 1080P mode. I then have to go into the DTV settings and add 4K back as an option, which it accepts and then everything works fine.

One thought: the 25ft HDMI cable from the AVR to the projector is probably 7-8 years old. Could that contribute here? I've read whether or not the cable works is pretty binary: either it works, or it doesn't, and you only need to upgrade to a newer cable if it doesn't work; ie., you don't get any image. But I do get an image... Any other thoughtshttps://www.monoprice.com/product?


I use 45' of Monoprice Cabernet cable https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=12735


that some say doesn't handle HDR but it does for me, but doesn't say HDR in the description. This cable does say HDR in it's description but only to 25'.


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So I pulled the trigger on the 7th due to the price reduction. BB cancelled my order on the 9th due to something about billing which wasn't true. I think it was because they dropped a $100 gift card thingy in the cart and it was a mistake and they wanted it back. Reordered that same day. 2 days before arrival it still hadn't shipped so I contact chat support (who likely know nothing in reality) and they assure me everything is fine.

This morning I get a delayed shipping email. Delayed for an additional MONTH. This despite the fact that their website still says that you can get it in a couple of days if you are ordering now. I could have had this a week ago from a certain other 'prime' retailer. Really annoyed. Really didn't want to go the prime route, but I guess I will take a chance.
Have you checked with BUYING one from the AVSForum - That is
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Have you checked with BUYING one from the AVSForum - That is
where I have always made my purchases and they prices are GREAT.
I have browsed in there before, but not seriously or recently. Soooo, I go over there and there are other decent PJs that I wouldn't have considered except at the prices in the classifieds. Ack!

Now you've sent me back down the rabbit hole, brother. If I don't have a PJ on the ceiling by next weekend I'm holding you responsible. But, seriously, thanks for reminding me to check.
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I have browsed in there before, but not seriously or recently. Soooo, I go over there and there are other decent PJs that I wouldn't have considered except at the prices in the classifieds. Ack!

Now you've sent me back down the rabbit hole, brother. If I don't have a PJ on the ceiling by next weekend I'm holding you responsible. But, seriously, thanks for reminding me to check.
I was not suggesting their used classified - I was suggesting
they sell brand new brands from most manufacturers.

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they sell brand new brands from most manufacturers.

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Sorry, that makes more sense. I saw too many things on the classifieds where the user created the account just to sell something. That's no better that ebay. There's some folks have been on here for years and that I might have been comfortable with.

I had only like 30 minutes to get the Saturday shipping so I pulled the trigger elsewhere. Paid the extra since it had to be signed for anyway so I may as well be tomorrow while I'm home. Wish me luck.
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You may be thinking of AVS (AV Science). They are not affiliated with AVSForum.

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I just got this projector and so far, so good. The only 4K input I have at the moment is DTV. Each time I time I turn on my system (DTV -> Denon AVR -> Epson) and go to any 4K channel I get a message that my TV does not support 4K and will display the content in 1080P mode. I then have to go into the DTV settings and add 4K back as an option, which it accepts and then everything works fine.

One thought: the 25ft HDMI cable from the AVR to the projector is probably 7-8 years old. Could that contribute here? I've read whether or not the cable works is pretty binary: either it works, or it doesn't, and you only need to upgrade to a newer cable if it doesn't work; ie., you don't get any image. But I do get an image... Any other thoughts https://www.monoprice.com/product?

I use 45' of Monoprice Cabernet cable https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=12735

that some say doesn't handle HDR but it does for me, but doesn't say HDR in the description. This cable does say HDR in it's description but only to 25'.

https://www.monoprice.com/product?c_...seq=1&format=2
I've got a quite old 40 foot high speed HDMI cable working with my Epson Home Cinema 4000 and have had no problem with 4K streaming or 4K blu-rays using my Sony X800 player. I suspect your problems stem from your DTV unit not holding the 4K setting after the projector is turned off - loses the handshake.

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Today I bought an Apple 4K tv. The native movies app allows to rent 4K from iTunes. And, as soon as I configured the appleTv to NOT transmit hdr, BOOM! Spectacular 4K image. Ferdinand looked ridiculous.
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Today I bought an Apple 4K tv. The native movies app allows to rent 4K from iTunes. And, as soon as I configured the appleTv to NOT transmit hdr, BOOM! Spectacular 4K image. Ferdinand looked ridiculous.
Congratulations. I bet it looks great.
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Today I bought an Apple 4K tv. The native movies app allows to rent 4K from iTunes. And, as soon as I configured the appleTv to NOT transmit hdr, BOOM! Spectacular 4K image. Ferdinand looked ridiculous.
Glad you're enjoying it... I use it a lot for rentals... Looks great on the Epson

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Glad you're enjoying it... I use it a lot for rentals... Looks great on the Epson


Yes but as always, you really MUST disable HDR on the player. In this case in the appleTv. HDR looks like crap and looses contrast pop and color.

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Dumb question about the fan, I would like to use High mode but it's too loud so was wondering have anybody looked at replacing the fan with a different one like a PC case fan which may be much better quality and quieter?

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Dumb question about the fan, I would like to use High mode but it's too loud so was wondering have anybody looked at replacing the fan with a different one like a PC case fan which may be much better quality and quieter?
With as many potential issues as his projector has, I would not try doing a fan replacement with this projector. You run the risk of the projector overheating and possibly voiding the warranty which is much needed with this unit.

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Does anyone have any good SDR settings for Bright Cinema? I want to dial in something good for outdoor movie nights where I'll be playing BluRay movies, not UHD. Thank you in advance, it's always enjoyable reading this thread.
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Dumb question about the fan, I would like to use High mode but it's too loud so was wondering have anybody looked at replacing the fan with a different one like a PC case fan which may be much better quality and quieter?

Have you tried watching an entire movie on high fan mode? I wonder if many are turning on high fan mode and immediately determining it is too loud and thus never watching a full movie. In my experience the fan is loud for the first 5 minutes or so and then it will quiet down. After that it does kick in from time to time as well. But it doesn't run at the initial level the whole time.



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Yes but as always, you really MUST disable HDR on the player. In this case in the appleTv. HDR looks like crap and looses contrast pop and color.

If you calibrate the projector, HDR on the Apple TV looks great - even better than SDR. It does take quite a bit of work to calibrate HDR, however.



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Here is the CarltonBale chart which is often used as a rule of thumb, not that it is favored by all or adhered to, it just gives you a sense of scale.

Based on this scale my 100” screen/12’ viewing position it’s borderline whether I would notice much of an improvement from 4K.
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I've been paranoid about the power supply issues ever since I started seeing them reported here. Something tells me mine is on the way out. Mine started doing the high fan thingee on start up about a month ago-hadn't done this previously. Then last night it failed to power on after what seemed like a longer than usual time of blowing on high. When I got up to yank the power cord I noticed a red light flashing and I was sure that was the end. To my surprise it did power up & behave normally after plugging it back in. Just wondering if anyone that suffered the power supply failure had this happen before it went. You know, surely Epson must know what serial numbers have the bad parts in them. They should step up and recall those units!


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If you calibrate the projector, HDR on the Apple TV looks great - even better than SDR. It does take quite a bit of work to calibrate HDR, however.



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I agree ^^^, 4K HDR looks great on my Epson 6040UB with f/w 1.11, and tweaking Harpervision, with the ATV4K. I do have a HDFury Linker in between my Marantz SR7011 and Epson.

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If you calibrate the projector, HDR on the Apple TV looks great - even better than SDR. It does take quite a bit of work to calibrate HDR, however.



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I can’t imagine it looking better than what I see on SDR but please share settings or point me to a link/thread? I’d like to try it out. HDR looks terrible to me compared to sdr no matter the player or source. I guess lots of tweaking may be needed to compensate.

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I can’t imagine it looking better than what I see on SDR but please share settings or point me to a link/thread? I’d like to try it out. HDR looks terrible to me compared to sdr no matter the player or source. I guess lots of tweaking may be needed to compensate.

There is a ton of info in this thread on HDR settings. I know it's a long thread but a search will help you find what you need. I did my own calibration with a meter and there is a separate thread for that. But I would start by trying some of the settings in this thread.



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Can some one link the page to Epson firmware updates? I can't seem to find it on Epson's website....

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I agree ^^^, 4K HDR looks great on my Epson 6040UB with f/w 1.11, and tweaking Harpervision, with the ATV4K. I do have a HDFury Linker in between my Marantz SR7011 and Epson.

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In that set up is th linker doing anything? I thought it was mainly for gaming.
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In that set up is th linker doing anything? I thought it was mainly for gaming.
That is the originally intent for gaming...However, I have all my peripherals synced finally, so I don't want to change just for testing. So to answer your question I'm not sure...It looks good to me when I change the Epson video pre-config memory to match the appropriate peripheral setting. YMMV of course.

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In that set up is the linker doing anything? I thought it was mainly for gaming.
The Linker in my setup allows me to get 4K HDR BT.2020 from Netflix and YouTube using a Roku Premiere +. There are several 4K HDR videos on YouTube that are used for demos on OLEDs. They look insane on this projector once HDR is dialed in.
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Based on this scale my 100” screen/12’ viewing position it’s borderline whether I would notice much of an improvement from 4K.
I agree with you. Also keep in mind that the 5040UB uses e-Shift. This chart does not account for that. I really struggle to see the difference between HD and 4K at 14 feet on my 120" screen.
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I agree with you. Also keep in mind that the 5040UB uses e-Shift. This chart does not account for that. I really struggle to see the difference between HD and 4K at 14 feet on my 120" screen.
My 6040UB projector has failed with power supply issues, totally dead when powered on.
This is the second unit to fail with the same issue as the first one. Both units failed with less than 200 lamp hours!!.

Hope I will be third time lucky!. Fingers crossed as I wait for an another RMA replacement.

I need to get this projector professionally calibrated looks like I will have to wait out on this

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