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The black panels are actually only $1K more than the 5040ub and they come with an extra year of overnight warranty replacement, extra bulb and something else... just ask for the 6040ub package!
Come on man. Don't I know that...
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Performed update procedure today. It was a breeze. Love owning a product I can update myself. My old projector didn't allow that. Had to be sent in. Ugh.

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I use my projector on two different screens (both regular Elite Screens 1.1 gain white) from the same projector position.

I have a long rectangular master bedroom and use a 100" screen at the foot of the bed and a 150" screen at the far end of the room.

I find both screen sizes have excellent PQ and are bright enough to use in a room that has a fair amount of ambient lighting during the daytime. My best friend is a well known ISF Calibrator and he's been very impressed with the projector out of the box and will tweak it once i have a 100 hours on the current bulb.

As far as ALR hot spotting is concerned I can't speak with any kind of authority on it but from what little reading I have done it seems that is not an issue on all screens and depends on the technique used. Perhaps a post in the screen forum would be a good place to ask.

Distance wise you should be fine as the projector has a recessed area where connections are made and thus I'm able to shelf mount right up to the back wall given ventilation happens in the front.
What would you estimate your throw length is when viewing the 150" screen?
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What would you estimate your throw length is when viewing the 150" screen?
I'm 10' from the 100" screen and 25' from the 150" screen.

I usually use Cinema mode/Eco/-20 iris on the close one and Natural/High/0 iris on the one further away.
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Based on the link, you have the latest firmware. Also, it appears your projector shipped that way. I wonder for how long people have had different firmware without knowing it.
I received my projector directly from Epson last week and it came with 103/101 and not 105/103 so my guess is not very long.
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Performed update procedure today. It was a breeze. Love owning a product I can update myself. My old projector didn't allow that. Had to be sent in. Ugh.
What does it fix/enhance?
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Official Epson 5040ub/6040ub owners thread

My replacement unit from 4 days ago still had an older FW.

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epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/support/supAdvice.jsp?type=highlights&noteoid=289381
Does anyone know if this firmware is compatible with the Euro/Australian models of this projector, the EH-TW8300? I'm assuming it'll work because it's the same projector, just with a different name, but don't want to risk breaking anything. I can't find any firmware updates on the Australian Epson site.
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I can see the logic in your decision, and I think it's a good one. Provided you know that most likely you won't be getting what you should be (in terms of what 4K UHD discs can offer) for the time being.


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I feel like even if I were to pick up either the Philips or Samsung now (or even the Panasonic for that matter), I would still want the Oppo when it's released. In which case I would have the Oppo, plus another black box collecting dust. So since I would like a gaming console anyway to connect to the 5040, I might as well get one with at least some form of 4k bluray functionality. I already have a PS4, but since upcoming Pro won't have a 4k spinner I think the One S is a better for. BTW, very irritated with Sony for their decision to forego a 4k bluray in the Pro. I'm sure I'm not the only one here whose first bluray player was a PS3, which did a lot to promote the format.

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Performed update procedure today. It was a breeze. Love owning a product I can update myself. My old projector didn't allow that. Had to be sent in. Ugh.
Can you kindly tell us what had been improved on this new firmware ? Since it is a tough reach for me to get up the ceiling to do this. If minor stuff, I would wait for the next one. Thanks in advance.

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BTW, very irritated with Sony for their decision to forego a 4k bluray in the Pro. I'm sure I'm not the only one here whose first bluray player was a PS3, which did a lot to promote the format.
They already won the format war with HD DVD. There's no longer a need to put it in a gaming console anymore.
Now they can get more buyers of their eventual 4K BD player, and you can bet there will likely be some special
features between the Pro and their 4K player to entice gamers to pony up.
Nothing but Oppo for me though. Once you go Oppo, you aren't likely to ever use another player.
They are going to sell a ton of them pretty soon.
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Can you kindly tell us what had been improved on this new firmware ? Since it is a tough reach for me to get up the ceiling to do this. If minor stuff, I would wait for the next one. Thanks in advance.


Epson does not post change logs for firmware updates. Frustrating. So I'm sorry but I don't have an answer.

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Epson does not post change logs for firmware updates. Frustrating. So I'm sorry but I don't have an answer.
Noted with thanks. Probably something that is not major or else you would have observe it.

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Noted with thanks. Probably something that is not major or else you would have observe it.
In my experience EPSON are doing only major updates. The previous model (5030/6030/9200) had only one or two updates in 3 years.
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Noted with thanks. Probably something that is not major or else you would have observe it.
Give Epson technical service a call and ask them - I've found them to be quite responsive. I asked what was in the last 5030 firmware update after finding it posted on an obscure Epson update page. They checked with their engineering dept. and sent me a reply the next day - it was an additional entry on one of the service menus, nothing that would affect the performance or operation of the projector. I downloaded and applied it anyway - they appear to be telling the truth, as there were no differences I could detect ...
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epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/support/supAdvice.jsp?type=highlights&noteoid=289381

In case anyone was wondering about the EH-TW8300/TW9300, this firmware updated my TW8300 to version 105 and 103 perfectly. Made no differences to the projector that I could detect, HDR is still not being detected properly on the Xbox One S and it didn't resolve the whirring/buzzing noise when using 4K enhancement or 4K content, projector is still pretty loud, although the fan itself seems to be a bit quieter, I'll be getting a replacement projector to fix that, but I thought I'd try my luck to see if it was somehow a software thing.
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didn't work for my German/European TW9300 (6040)...
Symptoms are as described for "wrong FW/type": when initiating the update process the projector switches off immediately (ok, after 2 or 3 seconds) and doesn't start the update.
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Those with the 5040ub (or if anyone with the 6040ub).
which BD player is confirmed to have full 4K HDR?
There are way too many pages to scroll to try and find the answer, trying my luck....
I have the XBOX ONE S but i understand HDR doesnt work with the 5040UB. Which BD Player is confirmed to be working?
is it ONLY the Philips BDP7501, or is there a cheapest option that is confirmed to be working? (my sincere apologies for the i am sure already asked question).
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Official Epson 5040ub/6040ub owners thread

Philips player works fine with Hdr based on my experience. Consider waiting a few months and see how you like bluray upscaled. In my experience the difference did not justify the $300 plus UHD discs, and I have a very acute vision and also I am very picky. Yes UHD looked crisper if you analyzed closely. Under most circumstances and most scenes, upscaled bluray appeared equal. And actually brighter compared to HdR.

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Philips player works fine with Hdr based on my experience. Consider waiting a few months and see how you like bluray upscaled. In my experience the difference did not justify the $300 plus UHD discs, and I have a very acute vision and also I am very picky. Yes UHD looked crisper if you analyzed closely. Under most circumstances and most scenes, upscaled bluray appeared equal. And actually bright her compared to HdR.
sounds like when people said there was no difference between dvd and bluray back in 2006 lol. I will have to disagree with that after seeing 4k on many different device types compared to bluray.
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sounds like when people said there was no difference between dvd and bluray back in 2006 lol. I will have to disagree with that after seeing 4k on many different device types compared to bluray.


Maybe it was the philips player. I didn't find it made such a huge difference like I explained. Also understand that the Epson is not a true 4K device. It doubles pixels, it doesn't quadruple like true 4K tvs etc. That's a huge difference. 200%.

Also, I did certainly notice a more meaningful difference with the Roku and 4K content from YouTube.

I really wasn't generalizing either... I was referring to the Philips player specifically, on the Epson specifically, with UHD Discs specifically. Just trying to help, I think people should test for themselves for sure and see if they find it worth the investment. I'd love to hear what others think as well.
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Pixel Shift and HDR questions.

Just got my 5040UB this past weekend. It’s ceiling mounted and projecting on a 130” Screen Innovations Slate screen. The picture really pops and looks great with Blu-rays and cable. I’m very pleased with the contrast and image is much brighter than my older Sony VPL-50. I noticed that several post mentioned the ability to turn off and on the pixel shift. I couldn’t find where to do that in the menu. I don’t want to turn it off, but would be nice to see if it is on for all the sources (blu-ray, cable, Apple TV, etc). Also, I played some 4K HDR blu-rays through my Samsung UBD-K8500. The 4K HDR does look much darker. I saw some posts that mentioned switching to HDR1, but I don’t find that either in the menu. Any suggestions?
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What is the exchange program?

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Their Support is out of this world !
Which is one of the main reasons why i went with the 6040ub
i got ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOTTTTTT TTTTTTTTTTTTTTT of pressure to go with JVC from Mike and a bunch of other forum users.
But i refused all offers and decided to stay with Epson. in particular the 6040ub from these reasons (in importance order)

1. Customer support and exchange program.
2. Input lag for gaming.
3. Color black.
4. Extra bulb and mount.

i had Epson before (3010) and had zero issues.
What exactly is the exchange program?

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What exactly is the exchange program?
They send you a replacement, shipped in 2 business days and you send back the defective in the box you received your replacement. usually, no question asked. they are pretty awesome with their support.
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That is really great, thanks. I wish they had a trade up program hah.

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google just announced chromecast ultra 4k hdr...

wonder if the hdr will work with the 5040 at all.
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which BD player is confirmed to have full 4K HDR?
I can confirm the Philips BDP7501 will play 4K Blu-ray at BT.2020 4:2:0 10-bit HDR with the Epson 5040UB. I'm not sure about 4K HDR Netflix from the BDP7501. Someone else will have to answer that.

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I can confirm the Philips BDP7501 will play 4K Blu-ray at BT.2020 4:2:0 10-bit HDR with the Epson 5040UB. I'm not sure about 4K HDR Netflix from the BDP7501. Someone else will have to answer that.
Thank you Sir, will be buying it today !
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Just got my 5040UB this past weekend. It’s ceiling mounted and projecting on a 130” Screen Innovations Slate screen. The picture really pops and looks great with Blu-rays and cable. I’m very pleased with the contrast and image is much brighter than my older Sony VPL-50. I noticed that several post mentioned the ability to turn off and on the pixel shift. I couldn’t find where to do that in the menu. I don’t want to turn it off, but would be nice to see if it is on for all the sources (blu-ray, cable, Apple TV, etc). Also, I played some 4K HDR blu-rays through my Samsung UBD-K8500. The 4K HDR does look much darker. I saw some posts that mentioned switching to HDR1, but I don’t find that either in the menu. Any suggestions?
If you will look at the first post of this thread after the initial specs you will find known issues and the answers to your questions.

Menu > Image > Image Enhancement > 4K Enhancement
In that location you will also find the Image Preset Modes. Try them out. Most people like Preset 2 or 3 with some folks preferring 1 or 4. Haven't found anyone saying they like Preset 5 but try it yourself.

Menu > Signal > Advanced > Dynamic Range to choose Auto, SDR or HDR modes.
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What exactly is the exchange program?
i had a bad noise problem with mine. i called yesterday, described the issue, the rep had a few questions and put me on hold for about a minute. came back on and said "we will be overnighting you a new projector". they put a 1799 hold on a credit card, got my shipping info, and done.

and it is here now, complete with shipping label and instructions for return of the original unit. all i gotta do is box it up and drop it at a fedex shipping location.

i've had a LOT of a/v equipment. only other companies that have touched that level of CS were bryston and mark seaton.
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