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Hello!


I have a Denon AVR-X4400H that was driving my old Epson projector. That one quit two weeks ago, and Friday a shiny new Epson 5040UB showed up to take it's place. The Denon has only two sources ... a Roku Streaming Stick+ and an Oppo UDP-203.


Initially the Epson would do nothing but say "Not Supported" or "No Signal", so I brought a TV down and plugged it into the other HDMI out. Using that I discovered the Denon was doing conversions to 1080p/24, which I vaguely recall b/c the old Epson never worked with 1080p faster than that. Still, the 5040UB should be able to display that, and it wasn't.


Using the TV as my display I fiddeled with settings on both the Roku & the Oppo, until I got the Roku to show something. I couldn't get the Oppo to do anything, even when I set it to 1080p/24.


Once the Roku was working I turned off video conversion on the Denon. *poof* Not supported comes back. No matter what I set the Denon to, if that setting is not "Conversion enabled to 1080p/24", the 5040UB shows "Not supported" for a bit, then usually (but not always) shows "No signal".


Many times during the dozens of changes I've made, I checked Info->Projector Info. ONCE it said something weird like 2160x1080. All other times it's just all dashes.


I spend many hours last weekend combing the 'net, and found naught. I also tried a number of times to search just this message board, to no avail. I could search all of the parent, but that includes more irrelevant hits than relevant ones, covering all <3k projectors. (shrug) Just wanted you to know I tried. (grin) And there's 503 pages here! Couldn't manually search them all to see if someone has solved this before. For what it's worth a 'net search only hits this board once, on page 351, so maybe I have searched it in a way.



I also download the manual from Epson (I don't even have a disc with mine that I'm aware of) but that revealed pretty much nothing.


I for one would be delighted to hear suggestions. I find it unlikely my new toy is broken in a way that only allows one resolution and frame rate. It's much more likely that I'm not doing something right.


Thanks for your time...
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HELP! My Samsung UHD player (the first one) must have updated to a new software or maybe just Netflix app did, but I just noticed tonight that Netflix is only streaming previous HDR content with Dolby Vision only. My 5040ub would now only play these content on 1080 SDR. Anybody notice this?
Sorry. I figured it out. Apparently what happed was, both my projector and 4KTV were both on at the same time. Both of them on separate HDMI outputs from my receiver. I turned off the tv, now I’m back on 4K HDR with my projector

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I'm pretty excited for the new Panasonic UB820 UHD player coming in on Friday. I'll be trying out the new HDR optimizer feature and see how it plays with the Epson.



I've been hearing people are able to max out the contrast setting along with the optimizer on and get no clipping, but have a much brighter overall picture.



Should be a lot of fun. Will update with screen shots for you guys.
Awesome.Looking forward to hear your thoughts on HD Optimizer function on this projector. I am planning to upgrade from UB900 to UB820/UB9000 depends on what HD Optimizer brings to the table.
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Awesome.Looking forward to hear your thoughts on HD Optimizer function on this projector. I am planning to upgrade from UB900 to UB820/UB9000 depends on what HD Optimizer brings to the table.

What are your thoughts/impressions on the UB900's slider that brightens HDR?

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What are your thoughts/impressions on the UB900's slider that brightens HDR?
I personally don't know much about the 900 because I don't own one, but its worth skipping if you are in the market can going to the UB820. The optimizer should be a life saver for OLED's and projectors alike. Hell anything with low luminance is going to benefit from the dynamic tone mapping happening at the source and then the display being fed a stable HDR signal. I was thinking about the 900 a while back and now I'm super glad I waited. Just sold my Phillips 7501. This thing should be a nice upgrade over that.

The UB820 will still have the same sliders for HDR brightness as the 900 had. Just adding the dynamic mapping feature on top.

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I personally don't know much about the 900 because I don't own one, but its worth skipping if you are in the market can going to the UB820. The optimizer should be a life saver for OLED's and projectors alike. Hell anything with low luminance is going to benefit from the dynamic tone mapping happening at the source and then the display being fed a stable HDR signal. I was thinking about the 900 a while back and now I'm super glad I waited. Just sold my Phillips 7501. This thing should be a nice upgrade over that.

I actually own both the 7501 and the 900 as well as the 203...have them in 3 different systems. The slider in the 900 actually works reasonably well improving HDR content (brightness) for projectors. I'm not familiar with the "optimizer" but if it improves upon the "slider's" performance, it should be a winner. BTW, is there any information/link on the optimizer...what it is and how it works? And have availability dates for the 820 and 9000 been announced.

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I'm not familiar with the "optimizer" but if it improves upon the "slider's" performance, it should be a winner. BTW, is there any information/link on the optimizer...what it is and how it works? And have availability dates for the 820 and 9000 been announced.
Value Electronics has them in stock and shipping as of today.

You set the luminance level of your display to a setting in the optimizer. There is a projector option there. It gently rolls off the highlights at the peak level of your display showing detail in the super highlights of HDR equipment regardless of your displays luminance capabilities.
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That's awesome the level of detail is amazing. Superwhite does v raise the gamma curve above reference is why I chose to Leave it off. The specular highlights are what I really love about these settings (glares off shields, ect)
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All I ended having to do was using auto dynamic range, your gamma curve, and some slight adjustments to brightness and contrast along with my existing settings. The resulting image tracked far closer to std then I was getting previously and the amount of detail revealed near the clipping point is absurd. I don’t know why I was hell bent on using autobright lol. thanks again for posting. O and one more thing something else I have been messing with is turning off super white and setting video range to expanded. It does the same thing for shadow detail as auto does for white detail. I’m currently running a brightness of 37 and a contrast of 71. Still clips at about 3400 nits but I get so much more near black detail.


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I am no expert on this, but my understanding is Digital Cinema invokes a filter that yields the wider color gamut so by using Natural, aren't you giving up some color richness? Did Digital Cinema not provide the desired results for you?
Your giving up a bit of color but with digital cinema you're giving up tons of light output up to 25% less give or take.

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That's awesome the level of detail is amazing. Superwhite does v raise the gamma curve above reference is why I chose to Leave it off. The specular highlights are what I really love about these settings (glares off shields, ect)

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Hi robc
can i just confirm, the settings you previously posted show superwhite On but in this post you say you choose to leave it Off?

I really appreciate the effort that you and @OrcusVaruna have put into calibrating this projector
Orcus now mentions using some of your settings along with some of his, are we now talking about a hybrid setting that combines both?

As I have a memory slot dedicated to your settings, and one for Orcus
It really would be a boon to have an up to date link in both of your signatures showing the latest settings that you use

Many thanks again
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Your giving up a bit of color but with digital cinema you're giving up tons of light output up to 25% less give or take.

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I agree your actually not giving up as much color accuracy as you think either. After calibrating I’m not entirely sure why they chose to include it at all. Funny enough I actually find it far more useful for sdr content when I really want to clamp down on light output to drive blacks as deep as possible.


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Hi robc

can i just confirm, the settings you previously posted show superwhite On but in this post you say you choose to leave it Off?



I really appreciate the effort that you and @OrcusVaruna have put into calibrating this projector

Orcus now mentions using some of your settings along with some of his, are we now talking about a hybrid setting that combines both?



As I have a memory slot dedicated to your settings, and one for Orcus

It really would be a boon to have an up to date link in both of your signatures showing the latest settings that you use



Many thanks again

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As soon as I’m fully happy with the hybrid settings I will post them


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Hello!


I have a Denon AVR-X4400H that was driving my old Epson projector. That one quit two weeks ago, and Friday a shiny new Epson 5040UB showed up to take it's place. The Denon has only two sources ... a Roku Streaming Stick+ and an Oppo UDP-203.


Initially the Epson would do nothing but say "Not Supported" or "No Signal", so I brought a TV down and plugged it into the other HDMI out. Using that I discovered the Denon was doing conversions to 1080p/24, which I vaguely recall b/c the old Epson never worked with 1080p faster than that. Still, the 5040UB should be able to display that, and it wasn't.


Using the TV as my display I fiddeled with settings on both the Roku & the Oppo, until I got the Roku to show something. I couldn't get the Oppo to do anything, even when I set it to 1080p/24.


Once the Roku was working I turned off video conversion on the Denon. *poof* Not supported comes back. No matter what I set the Denon to, if that setting is not "Conversion enabled to 1080p/24", the 5040UB shows "Not supported" for a bit, then usually (but not always) shows "No signal".


Many times during the dozens of changes I've made, I checked Info->Projector Info. ONCE it said something weird like 2160x1080. All other times it's just all dashes.


I spend many hours last weekend combing the 'net, and found naught. I also tried a number of times to search just this message board, to no avail. I could search all of the parent, but that includes more irrelevant hits than relevant ones, covering all <3k projectors. (shrug) Just wanted you to know I tried. (grin) And there's 503 pages here! Couldn't manually search them all to see if someone has solved this before. For what it's worth a 'net search only hits this board once, on page 351, so maybe I have searched it in a way.



I also download the manual from Epson (I don't even have a disc with mine that I'm aware of) but that revealed pretty much nothing.


I for one would be delighted to hear suggestions. I find it unlikely my new toy is broken in a way that only allows one resolution and frame rate. It's much more likely that I'm not doing something right.


Thanks for your time...
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have you set the denon to “enhanced” instead of “standard”? it is under video/4k signal format in the setup menu.
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have you set the denon to “enhanced” instead of “standard”? it is under video/4k signal format in the setup menu.
The Denon will pass HDR using 'standard' at 24Hz 4:2:0. I am using this and get a Rec 2020 signal per the projector's info screen.

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Side note:



I'm pretty excited for the new Panasonic UB820 UHD player coming in on Friday. I'll be trying out the new HDR optimizer feature and see how it plays with the Epson.



I've been hearing people are able to max out the contrast setting along with the optimizer on and get no clipping, but have a much brighter overall picture.



Should be a lot of fun. Will update with screen shots for you guys.
I ordered one yesterday, I'd love to see what you think of it and how you dial in the HDR optimizer settings. I don't have any Calibration equipment, other than the THX optimizer app, and have been using Orcus' settings as a guide.

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I ordered one yesterday, I'd love to see what you think of it and how you dial in the HDR optimizer settings. I don't have any Calibration equipment, other than the THX optimizer app, and have been using Orcus' settings as a guide.

I dont have a light meter, but I do use basic clipping patterns from Ryan Masciola for SDR and HDR10. Hoping to get chromapure with a meter sooner than later.

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I for one would be delighted to hear suggestions. I find it unlikely my new toy is broken in a way that only allows one resolution and frame rate. It's much more likely that I'm not doing something right.

- Ragnorok
Have you considered your HDMI cable? What is the length? Often a good quality high speed HDMI cable will be sufficient for the 5040. In your case perhaps your HDMI cable which was fine with your old 1080p projector isn't coping with the additional data stream. 4K UltraHD at 24p is about 8.91 Gbps while 1080p at 24p is about 2.23 Gbps.

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In an effect I call "The Magic Of Asking", not ten minutes after posting here, I found a web site that compared copper & optical HDMI. I *think* I may be having a cable issue, and even if I'm not, from what I've read 4k degrades considerably over the 30 feet of cable to the projector. So I just ordered an optical HDMI cable.


On the settings, I didn't change anything 4k-specific. I just turned off conversion and it would die right there. Or I'd leave it on and set various resolutions and it would die right there. I did them all from 720 to 4k, but didn't change anything but resolution / frame rate. At no setting would it work except 1080p/24 with conversion on.



I'm also still perplexed that the Oppo at 1080p/24 doesn't work.


In any case I think I need the cable for reliable 4k regardless, so I've kicked the can down the road until that gets here. Meantime I'm using this down time to mount the new acoustically transparent screen. Figured the old 4x3 I got in 1998 has served me well, but it's time for an upgrade.


Thanks for your time...
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Leave superwhite “on“ with my settings. Off caused gamma curve to drop in the blacks a rise in the white.

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I agree your actually not giving up as much color accuracy as you think either. After calibrating I’m not entirely sure why they chose to include it at all. Funny enough I actually find it far more useful for sdr content when I really want to clamp down on light output to drive blacks as deep as possible.


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Exactly, its very close

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Leave superwhite “on“ with my settings. Off caused gamma curve to drop in the blacks a rise in the white.

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And this is where screen makes such a huge difference. With my dark grey alr screen gamma stayed basically the same in the blacks and yes it pushed higher in the whites but gave some additional brightness to the image without loosing too much. Overall though I’m still not sure if I’ll stick with it off as it makes the image a touch unnatural.


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And this is where screen makes such a huge difference. With my dark grey alr screen gamma stayed basically the same in the blacks and yes it pushed higher in the whites but gave some additional brightness to the image without loosing too much. Overall though I’m still not sure if I’ll stick with it off as it makes the image a touch unnatural.


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And this is where screen makes such a huge difference. With my dark grey alr screen gamma stayed basically the same in the blacks and yes it pushed higher in the whites but gave some additional brightness to the image without loosing too much. Overall though I’m still not sure if I’ll stick with it off as it makes the image a touch unnatural.


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I use a cinegrey 5d and love it.
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Official Epson 5040ub/6040ub owners thread

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Even when measuring?

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Yup the dark gray alr material either actually messes with the gamma or the reading I’m not sure.


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Whose HDR and SDR calibration settings are you using?

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Hello DEN7ER,

I dropped a PDF file with the settings, not sure if this is the latest, just remember these are primarily baseline settings. You will need to customize according to your environment, i.e. screen, lighting, etc..

Hope this helps and Congratulations, I really enjoy my 6040UB projector. I watch it almost everyday.

I wouldn't concern myself with the power supply issue, I think the majority of Epson 5040/6040 owners are fine, they just don't post until something happens. Just Enjoy!!!

Peace and blessings,

Azeke
Just curious what every one is using from the HDR and SDR settings? Maybe add a poll to the thread?

Which of the following are you using or prefer? (Listed below in no particular order)

(From HT Guy’s compiled list found as a link in the post referred to above. Thanks for putting the list together!)

HDR:

1. oledurt Bright Cinema version 2

2. oledurt Bright Cinema version 1

3. oledurt Digital Cinema

4. Dave Harper Digital Cinema "HarperVision"

5. Dave Harper Bright Cinema

6. Dave Harper Digital Cinema w/oledurt suggestions

7. achanonier

8. oledurt Digital Cinema w/ dimi123 suggestions

9. panman40

10. buklwhitey

11. robc1976 (not in the attachment but in post number 15000j

SDR:

1. aaranddeeman

2. Dave Harper

3. panman40

4. Mikesp1
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I have never done panel alignemet before so this is the first time I try it but I'm not sure how I should set it up. See the two pictures.

Which one should I try to get? Some are like the first and some are like the other picture. I want it in line with the line, right? The sharpness are much better now after I have done it and you can see a big difference when turning it off. Thanks!

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I have never done panel alignemet before so this is the first time I try it but I'm not sure how I should set it up. See the two pictures.

Which one should I try to get? Some are like the first and some are like the other picture. I want it in line with the line, right? The sharpness are much better now after I have done it and you can see a big difference when turning it off. Thanks!

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Which buttons do you select to get into seeing this pattern with the red cross in the middle? I only see the box grid for panel alignment with no red cross in the middle. Seems to be helpful having that cross.

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Which buttons do you select to get into seeing this pattern with the red cross in the middle? I only see the box grid for panel alignment with no red cross in the middle. Seems to be helpful having that cross.
At the same place but continue after you have done the 4 corners, intersection or something like that, and just hit enter at each line.

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At the same place but continue after you have done the 4 corners, intersection or something like that, and just hit enter at each line.

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Ok thanks. I'll take a look tonight. Maybe I just missed that. Seems to make things easier than not having it.

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Ok thanks. I'll take a look tonight. Maybe I just missed that. Seems to make things easier than not having it.
It's 3 steps. Second is adjusting the 4 corners and the last is adjusting intersection. It made my sharpness alot better! I don't know if I did it right, but it got much better though

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