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I agree with some of that as well what I was more after was calibrating hdr ain’t easy or for the faint of heart. Especially on low nit displays. But I’m glad your enjoying and found the settings useful!


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I agree with some of that as well what I was more after was calibrating hdr ain’t easy or for the faint of heart. Especially on low nit displays. But I’m glad your enjoying and found the settings useful!


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I just confirmed the gamma listed in those settings is what I am running 0,2,2,5,13,21,31,31,31



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I just confirmed the gamma listed in those settings is what I am running 0,2,2,5,13,21,31,31,31



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Hey T-Man, welcome aboard. I use 2 settings for 3D, 3D Dynamic for color and 3D Cinema for B & W. I'll post those setting in the next few days.


My HT is pitch dark, so the settings I will post is what I like.
I only watch 3D at night, screen is 150" 16x9. Can you please post your settings, B & W movies like The Mad Magician I sometimes see crosstalk, your setting might help. Thank you
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I just confirmed the gamma listed in those settings is what I am running 0,2,2,5,13,21,31,31,31



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I've been having an issue with my 5040UB lately. Sometimes after starting it up, the picture will a few minutes later (~5 minutes) get a weird green tint. The tint will then disappear a after a few minutes and go back to normal. Sometimes (but not always), the green tint will transition into a pink blob, and back to green and then finally disappear for good - again a few minutes later.

This does not happen on every start up, and when it happens, it ALWAYS starts a few minutes after booting it up and itonly persists for a few minutes, probably 2-4 minutes tops. I've had instances where I used the projector for up to 12 hours afterwards with no further problems.

I caught the problem on video, by chance it happened to be probably the most extreme example of this issue. It has both the green tint and the pink bloom.

Anyone have any ideas why this is happening?
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I've been having an issue with my 5040UB lately. Sometimes after starting it up, the picture will a few minutes later (~5 minutes) get a weird green tint. The tint will then disappear a after a few minutes and go back to normal. Sometimes (but not always), the green tint will transition into a pink blob, and back to green and then finally disappear for good - again a few minutes later.



This does not happen on every start up, and when it happens, it ALWAYS starts a few minutes after booting it up and itonly persists for a few minutes, probably 2-4 minutes tops. I've had instances where I used the projector for up to 12 hours afterwards with no further problems.



I caught the problem on video, by chance it happened to be probably the most extreme example of this issue. It has both the green tint and the pink bloom.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_n7mVeQr5c



Anyone have any ideas why this is happening?


My unit being about a month out of warranty, I’ve also noticed a green tint during startup but it isn’t as extreme as your example. Mine stays green for about 20-30 seconds max before the picture normalizes on the screen and there is no sign of the “pink blob”. I first noticed this behavior mid-summer sometime. So far, I’ve just written it off to the bulb getting older (~1700 hours) and taking longer to warm up but what you show in your example is definitely not normal. I would contact customer service immediately and see what they say.


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@OrcusVaruna - When I use your settings, I see reds are brighter on my system. To correct it, should I work on color temp or RGB? Other than that, I am good with settings for most part. I use yours and Dave's based on content.
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@OrcusVaruna - When I use your settings, I see reds are brighter on my system. To correct it, should I work on color temp or RGB? Other than that, I am good with settings for most part. I use yours and Dave's based on content.


You can absolutely tinker with the cms settings to adjust the image to your liking. My screen applies a decent blue push to the image which my cms settings account for. One thing I will say though is a properly calibrated image is far warmer (redder/yellower) then you are used too if you have never had a properly calibrated tv/projector before.


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I've been having an issue with my 5040UB lately. Sometimes after starting it up, the picture will a few minutes later (~5 minutes) get a weird green tint. The tint will then disappear a after a few minutes and go back to normal. Sometimes (but not always), the green tint will transition into a pink blob, and back to green and then finally disappear for good - again a few minutes later.

This does not happen on every start up, and when it happens, it ALWAYS starts a few minutes after booting it up and itonly persists for a few minutes, probably 2-4 minutes tops. I've had instances where I used the projector for up to 12 hours afterwards with no further problems.

I caught the problem on video, by chance it happened to be probably the most extreme example of this issue. It has both the green tint and the pink bloom.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_n7mVeQr5c

Anyone have any ideas why this is happening?
Looks like a HDMI cable issue...just a guess. It this for all your devices or a specific device? Ensure your cables are High Premium. Monoprice has very good premium cables at a reasonable cost.

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Looks like a HDMI cable issue...just a guess. It this for all your devices or a specific device? Ensure your cables are High Premium. Monoprice has very good premium cables at a reasonable cost.



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I've had zero issues with the Monoprice 35' Luxe Series CL3 Active High Speed HDMI. Maybe I just got lucky, but if it works at 35' I would think it will handle anything at shorter distance as well. Nice strong cable.
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I am also using a 35 foot run non-active cable, getting BT.2020 HDR 4k 4:2:2 12Bit (24Hz) without issue.....
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You can absolutely tinker with the cms settings to adjust the image to your liking. My screen applies a decent blue push to the image which my cms settings account for. One thing I will say though is a properly calibrated image is far warmer (redder/yellower) then you are used too if you have never had a properly calibrated tv/projector before.


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Thanks for response. I will try tinkering with CMS settings.
I always did calibration for myself using Spears'n'Munsil & Disney WOW on plasmas I had earlier.
This time around I am so lost with HDR and also got lazy, just blindly following the settings from members here and playing with them to my tastes. I can't thank enough to you guys putting all the effort.
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I've been having an issue with my 5040UB lately. Sometimes after starting it up, the picture will a few minutes later (~5 minutes) get a weird green tint. The tint will then disappear a after a few minutes and go back to normal. Sometimes (but not always), the green tint will transition into a pink blob, and back to green and then finally disappear for good - again a few minutes later.

This does not happen on every start up, and when it happens, it ALWAYS starts a few minutes after booting it up and itonly persists for a few minutes, probably 2-4 minutes tops. I've had instances where I used the projector for up to 12 hours afterwards with no further problems.

I caught the problem on video, by chance it happened to be probably the most extreme example of this issue. It has both the green tint and the pink bloom.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_n7mVeQr5c

Anyone have any ideas why this is happening?
From the video that looks like something in the light path that is warming up and as it does so displays the moving magenta and green effects. I've seen a fixed magenta band on an old Epson model when the prism closest to the lamp slipped out of place vertically, others saw both magenta and green from a similar issue. Just my guess but its almost like in your case the prism might not be locked in place tightly and so as it warms up it distorts the colors. Again just a guess but it seems like a a very small horizontal movement of the prism perpendicular to the light path might cause what you're seeing.


If all my guessing is correct then it might be fixable by re-securing the prism, which could be quite simple, but that would involve opening up the unit. Before rushing to do anything I'd see if anyone else has had this specific problem, and of course if your unit is under warranty that would seem to be the way to go.
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I can't remember where I saw these calibration settings, but what do you guys think of it?

CINEMA
Brightness 56
Contrast 43
Color Sat 50
Tint 50

Sharpness 6 / 8 / 6

Color Temp 4
Skin Tone 3
Offset R 50
Offset G 49
Offset B 50
Gain R 50
Gain G 52
Gain B 42

Image Present Mode 3
Super Resolution 2 / 2
Detail Enchancement 25 / 25

Gamma 0, -3, -5, -7, -7, -7, -7, -8, 0

R 50 - 50 - 50
G 88 - 14 - 73
B 24 - 50 - 50
C 45 - 50 - 50
M 87 - 50 - 50
Y 48 - 27 - 64

Super White Off
Lens Iris -20

Lamp Medium
Auto Iris Normal

And also, is it better using super white on? If yes, can anybody tell me why and what it does?

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So I just ran into my first snag with the Panasonic UB 820. I slipped in a WB 4000nit title which is why I bought this player, pressed play and no audio. My initial thought was oops forgot to select convert all audio to Dolby Digital so my SONOS Playbase could play the audio. Much to my bewilderment there is NO option for this. Wtf. How does a $500 player not do this? My XBox One X and ATV4K does!!! Do any of you UB820 owners have a work around I’m missing? If not I’ll have to return this player as I bought it specifically to play wb and paramount titles mastered at 4000nits better and it just so happens they also are the primary users of dts audio.


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So I just ran into my first snag with the Panasonic UB 820. I slipped in a WB 4000nit title which is why I bought this player, pressed play and no audio. My initial thought was oops forgot to select convert all audio to Dolby Digital so my SONOS Playbase could play the audio. Much to my bewilderment there is NO option for this. Wtf. How does a $500 player not do this? My XBox One X and ATV4K does!!! Do any of you UB820 owners have a work around I’m missing? If not I’ll have to return this player as I bought it specifically to play wb and paramount titles mastered at 4000nits better and it just so happens they also are the primary users of dts audio.


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Player Settings -> Audio -> Digital Audio Output ->
Set Dolby Audio & DTS/DTS-HD to Bitstream
Set BD-Video Secondary Audio to ON
This will convert All Dolby Formats to Dolby Digital & All DTS HD formats to DTS.
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Player Settings -> Audio -> Digital Audio Output ->

Set Dolby Audio & DTS/DTS-HD to Bitstream

Set BD-Video Secondary Audio to ON

This will convert All Dolby Formats to Dolby Digital & All DTS HD formats to DTS.


Problem is I need it to convert all dts hd formats to Dolby Digital not DTS. Sonos can not play any DTS format at all and only plays PCM in stereo only.


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Problem is I need it to convert all dts hd formats to Dolby Digital not DTS. Sonos can not play any DTS format at all and only plays PCM in stereo only.


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Okay Got it. Panny players doesn't have this function . AFIK in dedicated 4K players only Samsung does. But all WB, Paramount & Sony 4K titles has Atmos/Dolby Tru HD tracks. You will have issues with some of 20th Fox & Universal studios who uses DTS:X randomly.
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So I just ran into my first snag with the Panasonic UB 820. I slipped in a WB 4000nit title which is why I bought this player, pressed play and no audio. My initial thought was oops forgot to select convert all audio to Dolby Digital so my SONOS Playbase could play the audio. Much to my bewilderment there is NO option for this. Wtf. How does a $500 player not do this? My XBox One X and ATV4K does!!! Do any of you UB820 owners have a work around I’m missing? If not I’ll have to return this player as I bought it specifically to play wb and paramount titles mastered at 4000nits better and it just so happens they also are the primary users of dts audio.


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Cables make a huge difference and I’ve even had problems with Monoprice cables. When I picked up the Pany 820 this past weekend I had a certified premium Monoprice cable not pass the signal so not wanting to wait I ran back to bestbuy and sold one of my kidneys for an audio quest forest cable which passed the signal just fine. I’ve had to do this multiple times with 4K HDR’s bandwidth requirements and cheaper cables. I have had good luck with blue jeans cables though which are priced in between Monoprice and audio quests entry level offerings.


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Can anyone point me to the best picture settings when pairing the 5040 to the PS4 and Xbox one x via the HD fury linker? I used to just use the PS4 without the HDR, but now that I got an xbox one x I needed the fury linker to get it to display 4K. I had some custom settings that I used for my Panasonic uhd player, but those use a specific gamma curve and bt709, and they don’t translate when the consoles are in hdr. Any help is appreciated as games like Spider-Man and Forza are either looking too saturated with the auto hdr presets or too flat with the custom settings I use for the UHD player.
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Can anyone point me to the best picture settings when pairing the 5040 to the PS4 and Xbox one x via the HD fury linker? I used to just use the PS4 without the HDR, but now that I got an xbox one x I needed the fury linker to get it to display 4K. I had some custom settings that I used for my Panasonic uhd player, but those use a specific gamma curve and bt709, and they don’t translate when the consoles are in hdr. Any help is appreciated as games like Spider-Man and Forza are either looking too saturated with the auto hdr presets or too flat with the custom settings I use for the UHD player.
I used Calman for the 5040 and then used the settings below. Maybe optimize picture in the XBox One X? Mine didn't need it.....
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Firmware link?

I've looked all over the Epson support site for the links to the latest firmware but can't see them anymore. Does anyone have a direct link for the 5040 UBE please? I must be missing something.
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Youtube 4K HDR

You meant the current Youtube only provides 4K SDR, even though some titles said 4K HDR, right ??? I am currently using the Youtube apps from Panasonic UB820.





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Yes you get 4K HDR from Netflix and at 24hz to boot! The 5.1 issue with amazon has changed over the past few months considerably and HDR for YouTube is supposedly coming as well. Also, you get Vudu HDR at 24hz and HBO HDR is supposed to be coming for the final season of game of thrones. If your a YouTube TV subscriber you get 5.1 audio and 60hz streams on the same stations as chromecast. I am also heavily invested in Apple and have loads of iTunes movies. The video processor and scaler in the ATV4K is awesome. Not sure how the one in the shield is but it’s definitely not better then the ATV4K. The last thing is your guaranteed that both apples software and apps will be updated and have features added for many years.


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