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Without getting deep (blacker black) into iris and what its supposed to do, I've never seen a difference with it being on, normal or high speed so I have always just left it off on my 6030 and prior 3010. I wouldn't mind seeing pics proving otherwise but then it might be subjective/perceptive anyway.

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I hear it working all the time (while on mute) but I agree. I can't noice anything except on black screens. And I wish it would act faster in that situation.

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FWIW I get 4k on Netflix through the Phillips player app. I would suggest you check your settings and cable.

Looking forward to trying out the new Roku Ultra to see what happens with it, they shipped it to me yesterday.
Please let us know how the new Roku is, particularly compared to the Philips and if HDR works.

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Still learning the ins and outs, I for now have an Xbox S as my 4k player, I'll get a standalone soon for actual hdr if they don't patch it in eventually.. But what settings do you guys have for your epson, anything that is a must to be selected for best possibly 4k uhd movie watching?
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Hate to break it to you guys but the Samsung k-8500 player only outputs 4:4:4 at menu, then the actual movie plays it's 4:2:0 so their shouldn't be problem with the player and projector.
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Can we play the movie without navigating the menu?


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When he first posted it I had messaged him privately to alert him that I thought the pricing might have been for the older unit which is also a smaller size as I had found it doubtful that it was for the newer model. Shortly thereafter he posted a message in this thread stating that the components and prices were for the older 5030 unit. He also posted previously after he had gotten the pricing for the first two panels that he would need pricing for two other panels as well before he realied it was all for the older model. So, while those of us with white might like black it will likely be a while before Epson even offers the FOUR case components we would need and even then we would likely be forfeiting our warranties should we attempt it. For me, the warranty replacement is CRITICAL so I would not do this change if that is the case anyway.

Cross-posted with ^ as I started my original message and then got pulled away before coming back and typing my final details and then hitting SEND

PS - He did send me the source in that reply PM but since it is for old components, no point in relaying.
I was initially under the impression the casing was some sort of external cladding, not that it would require me to disassemble my baby. So even if they come out with one for the 5040 I will have to pass. Definitely not going to void my warranty for the sake of aesthetics. Besides, the white contrasting against the black accoustic tiles has grown on me. I'm proud of it and kinda like how it stands out.

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Hey Guys, thought i would give some info to those who are interested
So, i got my 6040UB 2 days ago... It was extremely hard for me to mount it perfectly the way i wanted in my dedicated theater room but eventually thankfully got it done right
A few things about the projector:
1. it is HUGE.
2. it is NOT as heavy as i thought (23lbs).
3. it is GORGEOUS.
4. The back cable cover that comes with it sealed the deal on how beautiful it is.
5. The extra mount that came with it was a Chief elite. it only came with a 6" pipe, so had to go to Home Depot and construct a longer pipe for my scenario. After all said it done it came out beautiful. Also had to get a different ceiling bracket to replace the one it came with: (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1)
5.1 The mount is VERY heavy, Sturdy and looks really professional.
6. A few things that i was VERY surprised to achieve....
6.1 I put in a MediaBridge 25" HDMI Cable: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1 and it worked flawlessly with everything (detailed below).
6.2 I route everything through Yamaha 2060BL.
6.3 Xbox One S i get 4K and HDR (thats the surprising part). i think it might be because my yamaha is routing the video. unsure... but i get these in green:
*. Your TV supports 4K UHD (60Hz)
*. Your TV supports 4K 10-bit at 60Hz
*. Your TV supports HDR video/gaming.
6.4 I also purchased as dedicated player Philips BDP7501. I get full 4K and HDR.
7. The lens positioning on the projector is a life saver for my use case lol.
8. The picture is stunning, and thats with zero calibration. However, i do want to get some professionals to ISF calibrate it for me to maximize it.
9. First movie i saw was x-men apocalypse in 4K HDR Dolby Atmos and i was blown away.
10. In my use case the projector was SUPER quiet, i could barely hear it. Power consumption is set to "Normal".
11. I do not know if the 5040 have it, but the 6040 have a lens cover that automatically open and close with the projector power state, i found that feature to be AWESOME.
12. The backbit remote is cool, have all the buttons you need. But i put it all on a logitech harmony elite which works perfect (settings in myharmoney is Epson Plowerlite 5040UB), still waiting for 6040 to be added to their DB).
13. Gaming on this projector is a breeze, i have not noticed ANY type of lag. (Games Tested: Skyrim, Lord of the fallen, Tomb Raider 2).
that's it, that is my initial thought. Thank you all for all your valuable information here i have been reading non stop helping make my decision lol.
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It was me who added the 5040 codes to the Harmony database. . You should add the 6040 codes yourself for others to enjoy.

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Hey Guys, thought i would give some info to those who are interested
So, i got my 6040UB 2 days ago... It was extremely hard for me to mount it perfectly the way i wanted in my dedicated theater room but eventually thankfully got it done right
A few things about the projector:

6.3 Xbox One S i get 4K and HDR (thats the surprising part).
i find that hard to believe.
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i find that hard to believe.
Hi, it might be my Yamaha upscaling or similar. but i can tell you when i check the XBOX 4k info page these are green:
*. Your TV supports 4K UHD (60Hz)
*. Your TV supports 4K 10-bit at 60Hz
*. Your TV supports HDR video/gaming.

Rather you chose to believe or not, i cant help with that lol .
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It was me who added the 5040 codes to the Harmony database. . You should add the 6040 codes yourself for others to enjoy.
where did u go to add the codes to their DB and i will The minimum i can do after you helped me out to watch my first movie last night easily with my harmony lol
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Official Epson 5040ub/6040ub owners thread

Well what I did was manually add codes for each button. (Learn codes). The process itself is too complicated for me to remember though! Find 'learn codes' as you add a new device.

If the remotes are identical, then don't bother. Logitech would likely duplicate it or rename the entry to 5040/6040.

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Well what I did was manually add codes for each button. (Learn codes). The process itself is too complicated for me to remember though! Find 'learn codes' as you add a new device.

If the remotes are identical, then don't bother. Logitech would likely duplicate it or rename the entry to 5040/6040.
yeah, i can easily do the "learn code", i did not know that if i do so it automatically add it to Logi DB, cool
ill google the image of the 5040 remove vs the 6040 remote, they might be identical...
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Hi, it might be my Yamaha upscaling or similar. but i can tell you when i check the XBOX 4k info page these are green:
*. Your TV supports 4K UHD (60Hz)
*. Your TV supports 4K 10-bit at 60Hz
*. Your TV supports HDR video/gaming.

Rather you chose to believe or not, i cant help with that lol .
you are the only one ever. unless the 6040 has something different than the 5040 to do it. even epson acknowledged it won't work. interesting. in fact like the only player that will work with hdr is the phillips so far... so... weird.
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you are the only one ever. unless the 6040 has something different than the 5040 to do it. even epson acknowledged it won't work. interesting. in fact like the only player that will work with hdr is the phillips so far... so... weird.
Like i said, it might be my Yamaha.
i did upgrade the 6040ub firmware to 1.05.
http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/s...noteoid=289381

i have no reason to "lie", from that exact reason that EVERYONE wrote here that it DOES NOT work i went ahead and purchased the Phillips, and i was extremely surprised to see HDR turn green on the xbox...
Still going to use the phillips as i want dolby atmos etc, but i was surprised to see the HDR on the XBOX.

If i go by logic, it could very well either be my Yamaha upscaling and enabling the HDR or the 6040 is different...
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Just connect the Xbox directly to the Epson and see what you get.

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i find that hard to believe.
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you are the only one ever. unless the 6040 has something different than the 5040 to do it. even epson acknowledged it won't work. interesting. in fact like the only player that will work with hdr is the phillips so far... so... weird.
i took some pics to show what i get, i tried my best to capture both the screen and the epson model number to show its legit pics lol
Hope this helps.
i will try to get the xbox connected directly and report back.
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Official Epson 5040ub/6040ub owners thread

Not sure those pics prove much. We all know the Epson supports HDR. The Xbox is handshaking via HDMI and the Epson is reporting the supported feature set. That's all good, but the real question is whether the XBOX and the Epson can effectively handle an HDR signal together when playing a UHD disc etc.

Test this:
Connect the Xbox via HDMI directly to HDMI 1 port on the Epson. Then play HDR content. Then display info on the projector and see what you get.

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The Xbox One S had a new update in the last couple of days so maybe they fixed the problem...

I am getting one on Tuesday and will report back as well.
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I will do my best to test, but I'll need to take out the Xbox and move it up as the hdmi won't get to it physically.... I'll try....

And yes, I had an update on my Xbox last night right before I connected everything together....
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Nvdia settings

One of the devices I have connected to my 5040ub is a Windows 10 PC with a Nvidia GTX 1070. The only Nvdia display settings option at 4K when connected to the projector is at 8 bit at YCbCr420 (no RGB, YCbCr444 or 422). Is this what others are getting too? I have the PC connected via hdmi to a pioneer 924VSX receiver with HDMI 2 out connected to projector. I have the HDMI 1 out connected to my Samsung 4K TV and my Nvdia setting detected there for 4k allow me to change to RGB, YCbCr444, 222, 220, and 8,10,12 bit.
My receiver HDMI settings are at 4:4:4

What am I doing wrong? Will my current settings hurt my video performance.

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Samsung 3D glasses do not sync

Hi I have 2 Samsung 5150gb 3D glasses that's supposed to work with the 5040ub. I tried a couple of 3D movies on my PS4 but can't seems to sync the glasses. I've tried this when the projector detects a 3D source while pressing the power button on the glasses for a long time inches away from the projector, but it just blinks red and does not sync. I tried this with 2 of the same model glasses. Any suggestions are greatly appreciated. Thanks!
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[QUOTE=mase1981;47351769]Hey Guys, thought i would give some info to those who are interested
So, i got my 6040UB 2 days ago... It was extremely hard for me to mount it perfectly the way i wanted in my dedicated theater room but eventually thankfully got it done right
A few things about the projector:
1. it is HUGE.
2. it is NOT as heavy as i thought (23lbs).
3. it is GORGEOUS.
4. The back cable cover that comes with it sealed the deal on how beautiful it is.
5. The extra mount that came with it was a Chief elite. it only came with a 6" pipe, so had to go to Home Depot and construct a longer pipe for my scenario. After all said it done it came out beautiful. Also had to get a different ceiling bracket to replace the one it came with: (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1)
5.1 The mount is VERY heavy, Sturdy and looks really professional.
6. A few things that i was VERY surprised to achieve....
6.1 I put in a MediaBridge 25" HDMI Cable: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1 and it worked flawlessly with everything (detailed below).

Thanks for your input on the 6040 and hdmi cables.. I ordered a 6040 from Mike Garrett AV Sales yesterday and it will ship tomorrow, Monday...Anyway, I had some concern about my 4 year old Rocketfish 25ft hdmi cable being able to pass all the new 4k signals, 2.0 ect??..So I decided to just replace it, along with my hdmi cables from my receiver Marantz 7010 and Oppo 93..I thought why not?..I just spent $4k on a projector, why not spend $40 on new hdmi cables.....Just my thoughts
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Hey Guys, thought i would give some info to those who are interested
So, i got my 6040UB 2 days ago... It was extremely hard for me to mount it perfectly the way i wanted in my dedicated theater room but eventually thankfully got it done right
A few things about the projector:
1. it is HUGE.
2. it is NOT as heavy as i thought (23lbs).
3. it is GORGEOUS.
4. The back cable cover that comes with it sealed the deal on how beautiful it is.
5. The extra mount that came with it was a Chief elite. it only came with a 6" pipe, so had to go to Home Depot and construct a longer pipe for my scenario. After all said it done it came out beautiful. Also had to get a different ceiling bracket to replace the one it came with: (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1)
5.1 The mount is VERY heavy, Sturdy and looks really professional.
6. A few things that i was VERY surprised to achieve....
6.1 I put in a MediaBridge 25" HDMI Cable: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1 and it worked flawlessly with everything (detailed below).

Thanks for your input on the 6040 and hdmi cables.. I ordered a 6040 from Mike Garrett AV Sales yesterday and it will ship tomorrow, Monday...Anyway, I had some concern about my 4 year old Rocketfish 25ft hdmi cable being able to pass all the new 4k signals, 2.0 ect??..So I decided to just replace it, along with my hdmi cables from my receiver Marantz 7010 and Oppo 93..I thought why not?..I just spent $4k on a projector, why not spend $40 on new hdmi cables.....Just my thoughts
100% agree!
i got mine from mike as well, you will love it

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Hi, it might be my Yamaha upscaling or similar. but i can tell you when i check the XBOX 4k info page these are green:
*. Your TV supports 4K UHD (60Hz)
*. Your TV supports 4K 10-bit at 60Hz
*. Your TV supports HDR video/gaming.

Rather you chose to believe or not, i cant help with that lol .
That's awesome! Congrats!

I take it you had to put the Yamaha RX-A2060 into 4K Mode 1 in the advanced menu?
The default setting is Mode 2 and many on the Yamaha threads claim it won't pass 4K 10-Bit at 60Hz.

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I was initially under the impression the casing was some sort of external cladding, not that it would require me to disassemble my baby. So even if they come out with one for the 5040 I will have to pass. Definitely not going to void my warranty for the sake of aesthetics. Besides, the white contrasting against the black accoustic tiles has grown on me. I'm proud of it and kinda like how it stands out.

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So no one else feels that 24p content in general looks kind of weird on this projector? Like it's 15 frames per second. Fast action you can see every frame. I really don't know how else to describe it.

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you are the only one ever. unless the 6040 has something different than the 5040 to do it. even epson acknowledged it won't work. interesting. in fact like the only player that will work with hdr is the phillips so far... so... weird.
The panasonic also works

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i find that hard to believe.
ok, i tested again and Yup, you were right....
Even though the XBOX says HDR enabled the epson info page shows "SDR"..
Well, there goes that theory... At least i am glad i got confirmation/justification to spending the extra money getting the Phillips lol....
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That's awesome! Congrats!

I take it you had to put the Yamaha RX-A2060 into 4K Mode 1 in the advanced menu?
The default setting is Mode 2 and many on the Yamaha threads claim it won't pass 4K 10-Bit at 60Hz.
i take that back on the xbox, the xbox might show 4k HDR , but the Epson itself under info menu will show SDR.
and yes, to your question.
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