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LOL! Thought you still had an old plasma somewhere! Anyway...enjoy the OLED...what did you do with the PJ....and here's hoping you'll get an opportunity for a theater again someday!
I am selling it, new bulb and full calibration. New house will allow for 7.4 just not dedicated room that is sound proof or light controlled so selling the screen also lol

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Thats what i was thinking as well but installer thinks its my Yamaha 1070 with the issue which i doubt.

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I am selling it, new bulb and full calibration. New house will allow for 7.4 just not dedicated room that is sound proof or light controlled so selling the screen also lol

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Send it to Dave for a week for a new HarperVision/SDR2020 calibration before selling it?
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was wondering no fix has been out yet for the sometimes high speed fan noise issue on the start up of the projector?
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was wondering no fix has been out yet for the sometimes high speed fan noise issue on the start up of the projector?
To my knowledge, Epson has never confirmed/acknowledged that this is an issue/problem. Also, owners of previous models have also reported/experienced this occurrence. Lastly, an Epson tech rep I spoke with last year indicated to me that this is a normal occurrence but could not provide a plausible explanation as to why.

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Looks like a cable issue. When I switched from the 6040 to a Sony 285, I got pink sparkles, color blotches, and blackouts with HDMI enhanced turned on. This is about a 25' run. I switched to a 40' fiber HDMI, and everything fell into place.
Which cable are you using? I'm redoing our viewing room and will likely have a 32' run.

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Looks like a cable issue. When I switched from the 6040 to a Sony 285, I got pink sparkles, color blotches, and blackouts with HDMI enhanced turned on. This is about a 25' run. I switched to a 40' fiber HDMI, and everything fell into place.
Which cable are you using? I'm redoing our viewing room and will likely have a 32' run.
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I did not take advantage of it lol. By the time I got around to taking the projector down I was in full move mode unfortunately. Then when I got to my new place I really wanted to watch the giants try and go undefeated down the stretch so back up went the projector as soon as I moved in. The Giants lost and I don’t have a projector calibrated by Dave.




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Send it to Dave for a week for a new HarperVision/SDR2020 calibration before selling it?

Great idea, I’m game!!!
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Thank you and here are the different settings I came up with 4K Blu, 4K 60hz HDR Gaming, HDR Netflix, and SDR Content. Let me know how they work for you!




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Hello there,

I set up my 5040 with these settings that you used with your XBOX S...I'm using a Sony UDP-X800 player....These settings did work the best for me out of all other trys.....However, for my room, some scenes can be a bit on the light side......Any suggestions on what I could do to tone down a bit of the brights without messing up the picture.....It just seems a tiny bit washed out....just want to add a bit more color to it...I wasn't sure on which setting to change....the Gamma or ???? Thanks for your help...much appreciated!!
What settings for non HDR 4K content? Thinking about my xfinity box for TV (mostly Sports) or non-4K Netflix and gaming content
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Howdy

So my pj is acting weird all the sudden n I need help. All I’m seeing is this whenever I turn it on. So far I unplug n replug cables but no luck. What could be the issue? Thx




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So my pj is acting weird all the sudden n I need help. All I’m seeing is this whenever I turn it on. So far I unplug n replug cables but no luck. What could be the issue? Thx




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That usually means you don't have a signal coming to the projector

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That’s odd. Even when it was working perfectly normal before, the signal can be loss?


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was wondering no fix has been out yet for the sometimes high speed fan noise issue on the start up of the projector?
To my knowledge, Epson has never confirmed/acknowledged that this is an issue/problem. Also, owners of previous models have also reported/experienced this occurrence. Lastly, an Epson tech rep I spoke with last year indicated to me that this is a normal occurrence but could not provide a plausible explanation as to why.
Happens to me on occassion as well. I always assumed it was turning on high to blow dust out of the filter or something.

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Happens to me on occassion as well. I always assumed it was turning on high to blow dust out of the filter or something.
Yes...a common occurrence for all owners. Why and when this happens (seemingly random) is unknown/unexplained by even Epson’s technical support personnel. It appears this occurrence is harmless and no relationship to any particular failure has ever been established. So, we continue to wonder and speculate as Epson leadership elects to remain silent.

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Help with Warranty/ebay/won't power on

Sorry if this has been covered but I'm trying to sort this out for a friend.

Long story short, she has a 5040ub that she was going to sell. I turned it on and the power light was blue but no produced no picture. The lens cover didn't open either. It was purchased on Ebay so I'm not clear if this would be covered by warranty. Her husband passed away recently so I don't have access to when it was purchased but I think it might be within the 2 year window.

1) Is this most likely the power supply/board issue many have been having?

2) Is there anything else I can do to diagnose/produce a pic? (I'm familiar with projectors but not this one) Hitting the power button should open the lense/produce a pic even if it ins't connected to a source (tried both).

3) Can I call Epson on her behalf to figure it out if I didn't purchase it? The purchase, I assume , was under his name.

4) Does Epson's 2 year warranty cover Ebay purchases?

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So I had my projector calibrated today, and I'm rather disappointed...

Done a REC709 calibration first, which went fine but felt kind of pointless as the Epson is fairly accurate out of the box and it only needed some minor tweaks.

Then we moved onto HDR calibration, only a HDR calibration wasn't done. He said the Epson doesn't reach anywhere near the 2020 colour space, so he forced the player into REC709 so it basically converts HDR2020 into SDR709 and calibrated that way. His reasoning for this was that the Epson outputs closer to REC709 than REC2020.

This is the first time I've seen anyone do this with this projector and have never heard it.

Overall, I just feel like I wasted money to be honest and should've stuck with the settings out of the box...
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He said the Epson doesn't reach anywhere near the 2020 colour space, so he forced the player into REC709 so it basically converts HDR2020 into SDR709 and calibrated that way. His reasoning for this was that the Epson outputs closer to REC709 than REC2020.
The Epson reaches 102% of DCI-P3 when in Digital Cinema mode with the color filter in place, which is the standard for HDR WCG. No current PJ or TV on the market covers 100% of REC2020. Your calibrator should do a new calibration for HDR in Digital Cinema mode.
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He's gone now (from another state), so there's no option to do another calibration. I tried to push for it but he kept saying it couldnt be done because basically the Epson sucked at HDR. Either he can't do HDR calibrations, or he's right and the results aren't worth it, but thats unlikely as I've seen plenty of people here do it.

I'm just really disappointed and annoyed. I feel like I've wasted a lot of money for nothing.
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He's gone now (from another state), so there's no option to do another calibration. I tried to push for it but he kept saying it couldnt be done because basically the Epson sucked at HDR. Either he can't do HDR calibrations, or he's right and the results aren't worth it, but thats unlikely as I've seen plenty of people here do it.

I'm just really disappointed and annoyed. I feel like I've wasted a lot of money for nothing.
That's a shame because the Epson displays HDR WCG beautifully in Digital Cinema mode once properly calibrated. The only downside is that you'll have to run it in high lamp mode, which increases the noise from the PJ.
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At the moment I use my Panasonic UB820 to output in SDR2020, then use Digital Cinema with pretty much default settings for UHD discs. I was using Harpervision on my UB900 but this appears fairly close.
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Ok so looking at the settings he made for me, it seems he's calibrated HDR using 'Natural' colour mode, which is what a few have done here (Orcus). If this is the case, is there any reason to force the player to output REC709 since Natural mode does not use the REC2020 colour space?
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Ok so looking at the settings he made for me, it seems he's calibrated HDR using 'Natural' colour mode, which is what a few have done here (Orcus). If this is the case, is there any reason to force the player to output REC709 since Natural mode does not use the REC2020 colour space?
You can achieve pretty good HDR in Natural mode when feeding the Epson a full HDR BT.2020 signal. I for one can't live without the Wide Color Gamut having seen those gorgeously saturated reds. Here are some basic Digital Cinema settings that, depending on your screen gain, throw ratio and lamp hours, may or may not work for you. This is when inputting a full HDR BT.2020 signal.
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Your dedicated room was absolutely awesome! Hopefully, you'll have the opportunity to recreate a similar theater again. Just curious, although a bit OT here, but since your new config will be a 7.4, will you be utilizing all 6 RF-7 II's again?

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So I had my projector calibrated today, and I'm rather disappointed...

Done a REC709 calibration first, which went fine but felt kind of pointless as the Epson is fairly accurate out of the box and it only needed some minor tweaks.

Then we moved onto HDR calibration, only a HDR calibration wasn't done. He said the Epson doesn't reach anywhere near the 2020 colour space, so he forced the player into REC709 so it basically converts HDR2020 into SDR709 and calibrated that way. His reasoning for this was that the Epson outputs closer to REC709 than REC2020.

This is the first time I've seen anyone do this with this projector and have never heard it.

Overall, I just feel like I wasted money to be honest and should've stuck with the settings out of the box...

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The Epson reaches 102% of DCI-P3 when in Digital Cinema mode with the color filter in place, which is the standard for HDR WCG. No current PJ or TV on the market covers 100% of REC2020. Your calibrator should do a new calibration for HDR in Digital Cinema mode.
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He's gone now (from another state), so there's no option to do another calibration. I tried to push for it but he kept saying it couldnt be done because basically the Epson sucked at HDR. Either he can't do HDR calibrations, or he's right and the results aren't worth it, but thats unlikely as I've seen plenty of people here do it.

I'm just really disappointed and annoyed. I feel like I've wasted a lot of money for nothing.

Damn that sucks man. Did you ask him if he did a 5040 or 6040 before? I’m sorry you got someone like that, who seems to not quite know what’s needed and the possibilities. Did you ask him about my HarperVision? I’m sure he trashed it, not knowing what it is or the methodology and technique behind it all.

My offer still stands to do a free calibration and HarperVision on a 5040 so I can get the CMS and Greyscale readings.
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Damn that sucks man. Did you ask him if he did a 5040 or 6040 before? I’m sorry you got someone like that, who seems to not quite know what’s needed and the possibilities. Did you ask him about my HarperVision? I’m sure he trashed it, not knowing what it is or the methodology and technique behind it all.

My offer still stands to do a free calibration and HarperVision on a 5040 so I can get the CMS and Greyscale readings.
Tell me about it Dave! I'm so frustrated. I did ask him if he done one of these and he said he has done plenty. His other customers must not be as critical as me then, or they simply have no idea about 4K HDR.

I did tell him about your Harpervision as it is stored in my presets and asked him to do a CMS calibration on it, but he just kept saying 'your Epson can't do 2020 colour, so we can't do it'. He said 'It doesn't do a good job of WCG so you're better off calibrating for REC709 instead'. He said it didn't matter which method I used to play HDR content, whether it was Harpervision or using the Panasonic SDR2020 conversion, it didn't matter because the Epson cannot do 2020 colour correctly, so he wouldn't calibrate for it.

He tried to explain to me and basically said that the Epson in 'HDR mode' only achieves a bit more than REC709, so if he were to calibrate in that mode the colours would be grossly undersaturated, particularly the green as it doesn't reach anywhere near where it's supposed to for REC2020 colour, so he calibrates in REC709 instead.

I said that sounded odd as I've read of loads of people online calibrating this projector for WCG with great results, but he didn't really have much to say. just wouldn't budge and I didn't want to be rude.

Is there any truth to what he said? I feel like I'm back to square one now, so with an 820 I'm trying to get the best picture possible on this projector.

I wanted to ask, the calibration he did for me was done using Natural mode. he forced my player to output REC709. Is there any point in doing this, since Natural mode doesn't use the DCI P3 colour filter anyway? Can I leave the UB820 in SDR2020 mode?

I will say that the colours of his calibration look great in Natural mode, but for now I'm still using SDR2020 with standard Epson settings using Digitla Cinema colour mode, as I feel like I may be missing out on the benefits of UHD discs otherwise. If I simply wanted to adjust brightness and contrast using SDR2020, which test patterns do I use? The R. Masciola ones, or those SDR test patterns from a few years back (forgot the name)?

Unfortunately I live in Australia otherwise I'd happily send you my Epson.
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50' HDMI cable recommendations for Epson 5040U

I have a Samsung UN65JS850 4K Ultra HD Smart 3D LED LCD TV which as been great, but wanted a big screen movie night experience. After a long analysis, I decided to buy the Epson 5040UB projecting on a Elite ProAV Saker Tab-Tension CineGrey 5D 135", it is going to be a great Xmas!
I am also upgrading my Denon AVR to the new X3500H (although it is back ordered) for the latest HDMI support from all my sources: Xbox One X, Amazon Fire TV, DirectTV, BD, etc.

My real challenge is that I need a 50' HDMI cable = 5' from AVR down to crawlspace + 15' of crawlspace going back + 10' up to the attic (in 1.25" conduit + 10' in the attic to the projector. I spent over a week analyzing so many sites, including this great forum, and it looks like there are no good solution for a 50' 4K HDMI cable as we are all trying to push the limits of current HDMI 1.4 with 4k HDR, 3D, etc. which needs 10 Gbit/s bandwith.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI
https://www.cnet.com/news/what-hdmi-cable-should-i-buy/
https://www.avsforum.com/forum/168-h...-cable-4k.html
https://www.avsforum.com/forum/168-h...-works-16.html

So the choices are:

1- Active / amplified / directional HDMI cable
HDMI connection to boost the signal. Monoprice, for example, has some that use Spectra7 tech, formerly RedMere.
Monoprice DynamicView Active High Speed HDMI Cable - 4K @ 60Hz, HDR, 18Gbps, 24AWG, YUV 4:4:4, CL2, 50ft
Pearstone 50' Active HDMI with RedMere Chipset

2- Optical HDMI
like the Light-Link HDMI Cable by Sewell, 40 ft 4K @ 60Hz 4:4:4 HDMI 2.0 HDCP 2.2
or the FeizLink HDMI Fiber Cable 4K60Hz 50ft, Fiber Optic HDMI2.0 Cable, HDR, ARC, HDCP2.2, Subsampling 4:4:4/4:2:2/4:2:0 Slim and Flexible HDMI Fiber Optic Cable

3- HDMI extenders over CAT6
https://nerdtechy.com/best-hdmi-exte...5-6-7-ethernet
like the Comprehensive Pro AV/IT HDMI

Now who has experience here with a 50' cable to their projector like the Epson 5040UB ?

5 Denon AVR's, all working great!
AVR-2112CI, AVR-1312, AVR-3311CI, AVR-2106, AVR-3300
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